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Other than the cycle lane (totally separated from the road by a wide grass bank) being safer of course... am I actually obliged to use it legally?
Pretty sure I'm not but want to check with you guys. There is a reason I'm asking but in truth it's not very interesting so won't bother to mention it.lol
No legal obligation unless the A road has a signed restriction (I can think of some that do).
Good point, I'll check.👍
As above, it's not the cycle lane which might force you to use it but a carriageway restriction that might.
There are basically two types of cycle lane, advisory and mandatory. However, that is about where cars can use them, not whether cyclists should.
It depends. Do you pay road tax?
edit: basically what Onza said
It depends. Do you pay road tax?
The last one ranting at me about it started dribbling on about Council Tax.
Depends on whether you’re wearing a helmet.... 😉
Which one offers the most chance of a K.O.M?
Which one has less broken glass and dog sh1t on?
Which one has pedestrians on it shouting at you to get in the road?
Or the opposite. Car drivers shouting abuse at you to get of the road and use the cycle path.
I've also had other cyclists on the cycle path shout at me to get off the road and on the cycle path.
With so little understanding of the rules of the road what are doing on them on a bike. Your level of ignorance of the law only qualifies you to drive a car.
As in understand it no obligation
Along the A6 i son't know whether the cycle path to the side is safer. It cuts across the side roads which i find very hard to cross safely. You have to look 3 ways
"In built-up areas cycle tracks 25% safer than unsegregated road between junctions, but 32% more dangerous at junctions. Cycle lanes 36% more dangerous between junctions, 19% safer at junctions. Seriousness of accidents greater if tracks or lanes present compared with no facilities."
First hit on google so maybe rubbish
http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/research.html
You're not the lunatic on the (genuinely shouldn't have been there) a64m in Leeds last Thursday are you OP?
Or the poor cyclist killed on the A40? There is a good cycle path on the opposite side of the A40 beside Northolt airfield which I used to ride along. I’d never ride on the A40, but sadly this rider did and was hit by a lorry at 6AM.
Saw this on a bus recently, really impressed with the idea and message:
Kinell that bus will get the gammons frothing.
Also, I tend to ignore these signs but if someones walking the other way, I'll usually slow right down and move over or stop to let them past (if on a narrow path etc).
Edit, I know blue rectangle is for informtion, before someone tells me.
We saw a cyclist on the M25 the other day, riding clockwise between j9 & 10 I think. Reckon he could have been a continental visitor as he had a full touring kit attached to the bike.
We got off a Leatherhead and saw a traffic cop heading the after him, but apparently didn't get him...
They should put that sign on that back of more buses!
They should put that sign on that back of more buses!
They should and then hopefully the bus driver might start taking notice!!
We have a 'cycle lane' (pavement with a line down the middle) nearby, that runs along a busy single carriageway B road, though a highly populated area with shops and a school on it and side road junctions every 100m or so. With the number of pedestrians wandering across it combined with having to slow or stop at every side junction it is practically unusable. To be fair I can understand why pedestrians don't want cyclists on the pavement when they are coming out the shops and walking their children to school, however if you ride on the road you just get angry drivers trying to squeeze by shouting out their side window "Use the Cycle Lane".
Thank you Elmbridge Council for making cyclists 3rd class traffic.
avdave2
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With so little understanding of the rules of the road what are doing on them on a bike. Your level of ignorance of the law only qualifies you to drive a car.
Your level of arrogance and lack of understanding barely qualifies you to use a keyboard.
Go and rubbish some other thread, or your boxers. Whichever you find more convenient.
Thanks for the more helpful comments guys.👍
avdave2
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With so little understanding of the rules of the road what are doing on them on a bike. Your level of ignorance of the law only qualifies you to drive a car.
I thought that was very funny! Read it again, Poop.
Ah......
Missed that. In my defence one literally had no sleep. Terribly insomnia at the moment which leads to cognitive issues and short fuse... it would seem.😁
Sorry avdave2.👍
The road from Bradford to Leeds has a cycle lane but if you use it, you have to stop at every side road to get past cars. If you go on the main road it's quicker.
Depending on how scary the traffic is depends on which bit I use.
Cars don't understand why I don't want to use the cycle lane but It can mean the difference between 10mph average and 15 mph which makes a big difference on a ride to work.
Cycle lane never gets cleaned as the road sweepers can't get in past the kerb so it can have debris in which kills expensive tyres.
Lack of sleep seems to have given you forumrage Poopscoop.:-)
That's really unlike me to be honest!
Again, genuinely sorry bud. I'm going to have a great day today,I can see it now!
Saw this on a bus recently, really impressed with the idea and message
Christ! Ironic that the last 2 dangerous drivers I had to report were buses! Wonder what the driver thought of that plastered on the back of his vehicle...
Imagine if this had had it on the back 😆
The cycle lane should definitely be given priority at side roads. If it's difficult/dangerous to use cyclists will ride on the carriageway - then they WILL have priority.
As I understand it there are rules (or perhaps just suggestions) regarding road markings which make it difficult to allow cycle path priority. In that case it's high time the rules were changed.
dezB
Blimey, bet that made your bum grab the saddle!
Court case in 2006:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/shropshire/6303427.stm
bet that made your bum grab the saddle!
Dunno about that, but I sweared a bit 🙂
Just remembered, last time I drove down the Eastern Road into Portsmouth (if you don't know it, it's always bloody busy) there was a woman on a sit-up-and-beg type machine riding amongst the cars on the main highway. This road has on (smoooth path) and offroad options running it's whole length! eg.
I wouldn't mix with the cars on it. Can't imagine her thought process (if there was one), but she's allowed!
Again, genuinely sorry bud.
I was amused not offended in the slightest. There are a number of cycle lanes here in Brighton I never use as the road seems a lot safer but there are others where I'd never dream of using the road even though I can. Mainly the stretch between the Marina and Rottingdean or Falmer to Lewes but people do still ride on those roads. I think often the issue is actually getting to the cycle lane if you don't know the area well, the fact that it's such a disjointed network can make it difficult to use them even when it's by far the best option.
Depends on whether you’re wearing a helmet…. 😉
My MiL started wittering on about a cyclist we drove past last week not wearing a helmet. I was more concerned about the lack of lights and dark clothing at 7pm, but non-cyclists are conditioned these days to see bare heads. 😀
We have a ‘cycle lane’ (pavement with a line down the middle) nearby, that runs along a busy single carriageway B road, though a highly populated area with shops and a school on it and side road junctions every 100m or so. With the number of pedestrians wandering across it combined with having to slow or stop at every side junction it is practically unusable. To be fair I can understand why pedestrians don’t want cyclists on the pavement when they are coming out the shops and walking their children to school, however if you ride on the road you just get angry drivers trying to squeeze by shouting out their side window “Use the Cycle Lane”.
Thank you Elmbridge Council for making cyclists 3rd class traffic.
Similar set up on Priory Lane running into Richmond Park. Footpath on one side is designated as a shared use foot/cycle path but it's got pedestrians all over it, dogwalkers, leaves and it's slow. Might be OK for a doddery old biddy on a folder but for the hundreds of roadies heading into RP, none of them would even consider it. And oh wow, does it wind up the gammons. Even though it's a 20mph limit and the cyclists are usually doing 17-20 anyway.
In answer to the OP, I used to ride the A4 into London occasionally and there were sections of that whihc had a "cycle lane" to one side. It was so slow and so dangerous with cars turning across and going into/out of driveways that it was far quicker and safer to use the main road. And at the time I was riding it, traffic as usually bumper to bumper anyway, speeds not usually much more than I could do.
The cycle lane should definitely be given priority at side roads.
I saw an example of this in the USA. Not only cyclist priority but the road had stop signs rather than give way and being the USA traffic was stopping despite no cyclists in sight,.
The cycle lane should definitely be given priority at side roads.
This is how we do it in the UK
Why did the cyclist not just slow down a little?
I'd rather be alive than right.
😆 I knew when I posted that it will have been my fault to some idiot! 😆
ps. if I hadn't slowed down I would've been underneath the ****ing wheels
Why did the driver not check their inside mirror, see the cyclist and wait for the cytclist to pass before turning left i.e. what they are supposed to do? 😮
Aye, but why did the cyclist not slow down?
😆 I knew when I posted that it will have been my fault to some idiot! 😆
ps. if I hadn’t slowed down I would’ve been underneath the **** wheels
Whilst I'm with you on it not being your fault, "if you can't see me, I can't see you" you weren't visible in their mirrors and short of dislocating their neck weren't going to be to a sideways look either.
Why did the driver not check their inside mirror, see the cyclist
Well, they'd only passed the bike with multiple flashing lights all over it about 10 seconds before, so you'd think they might remember they were there!
I knew when I posted that it will have been my fault to some idiot!
Driver is clearly indicating so just from a common sense / self preservation point of view I would automatically assume the driver was going to turn left as soon as they reached the junction. Cycle lanes like that are shit and I won't use them.