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[Closed] How to tell which headset will fit?

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So 2 LBS have now told me they can't get the crown race off my forks to put on my new pair I'm wondering if a new headset might be the way to go.

Currently have a Ritchie OE 1&1/8 semi integrated 44/50 according to bike spec.

Do I have to get another that calls itself semi-integrated or can I just choose another MTB headset? Eg, could I just get a Ritchey WCS from Merlin for £22.50 which looks a bargain..?

Any pointers appreciated.


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 3:51 pm
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Here's a great article on headsets

[url= http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=68 ]headset standards[/url]


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 3:57 pm
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They can't even get it off with a crown race puller?

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Posted : 11/05/2010 4:49 pm
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Thanks for that nockmeister - this will require much closer inspection. A simple yes/no was probably a bit optimistic..

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Posted : 11/05/2010 4:49 pm
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Foxyrider - Do you know what, I don't think they really had the right tools. And there's a third LBS I've phoned, they've offered to have a go but they also talked about a hammer and screwdriver saying that tools weren't really any use and all fork/race combinations were different. My only other option is Merlin, maybe they have one...


 
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They are only about £15-£20 - maybe get one and try it? If you don't want it I'll buy it from you at a sl reduced price to add to my tool collection 😉 I haven't used one as mine have either been easy to get off or have used split crown races. I can't imagine that knacering the fork witha screwdrive is better than a crown race tool ? Or am I wrong?


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 4:55 pm
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[url= http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=15888 ]44 / 50 Headset[/url]


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 5:40 pm
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Go to a decent shop, they should have a puller there (even we do). Or come over to Ireland for some TT motor racing in Skerries and I'll help you with it 😉


 
Posted : 11/05/2010 6:01 pm
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Thanks all. I reckon I'll give the next shop a try at lunchtime and see if they can get it off. This is the only option for the moment as I spent too much on the forks in the first place so have no budget for tools or a new headset until at least next month..

Buying a tool to sell on is a nice idea but although the ice-toolz version is only £20 I notice that the Park Tools version is £155 - quite a difference! would be looking for some reviews to make sure the cheap one works I think..


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 8:46 am
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Even I've got a crown race puller in my box at home, crap shop IMO if they haven't got such a basic tool.


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 8:57 am
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[b]Goldenwonder[/b] - surprises me too, especially that none of the 3 that I've tried have had one. You'd think nobody ever changed their forks wouldn't you?

Do you have one of the cheaper ones or a full-on Park version - does it work?


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 9:55 am
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The cheaper ones will work perfectly - try Bikegoo.com

Have you tried looking for a replacement Ritchie crown race? Might be worth giving Merlin a call. Or check CRC.


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 10:31 am
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I just phoned Merlin, they said it would be too difficult to get the right replacement crown race, didn't think taking it off the fork and re-using would be a good idea and recommended a new headset. Let's hope Bill Nickson can sort it out at lunchtime..


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 10:54 am
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I've just got the cheaper one.
Works pretty well, I've only had a couple of forks when it hasn't been really easy, but still done the job.
Whereabouts are you based? You're welcome to come & use it!


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 11:46 am
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http://www.canecreek.com/tech-determining-standards


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 12:58 pm
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You're welcome to come & use it!

Sounds tempting, just used my lunch hour riding to the not-so-local bike shop and it's closed on Wednesdays. Why did nobody tell me! All that way with a pair of v-brake bosses digging into my back for nothing! Will try again on Friday..


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 1:54 pm
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[b]Macavity[/b] - thanks for the link, that was useful. I'm pretty sure I know what to look for now if I have to - something like a Cane Creek ZSC-1 looks promising if I end up going that route.


 
Posted : 12/05/2010 2:16 pm
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Hurray for Bill Nickson Cycles in Leyland - He's going to do it!


 
Posted : 14/05/2010 3:25 pm