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went to stainburn this morning, there for 8ish, went straight to the top of the descent line, rode it down to the rock drop and baulked.
turned round went back up 50yards or so, dropped the saddle and rode it the 2nd time no problem, then rode it 5 more times just to make sure.
how sad, a 40 something fat bloke sessoning a dropoff early in the morning so all the kids cant laugh at him.
so i then went and tried to ride the warren boulder trail....oh my god how hard are some of the sections, the slimy slab, the hovis corner, the wooden drop before the north shore.
how the **** do people ride some of that stuff.
i did however come away a very pleased man having ridden the rock drop.... 8)


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:11 pm
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Yeah - a lot of the videos just don't show quite how steep those rocky sections are! At least you and your bike came back in one piece.


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:12 pm
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Good work fella !

When you say 'rode the drop' to you mean rolling down it ?


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:16 pm
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Goood on you Ton.
The Hovis Corner and the Cole Chute scare the shit out of me too.
On Tuesday night one of the lads I was riding with came off on the Cole Chute, hit a tree backwards and broke 3 ribs. Ouch.

We were up there with the kids playing on the pump track this afternoon, good fun in the sun.


 
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i know! it's dark and evil down there! did you know there were warewolves too?


 
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Has anyone got any pics of the drop then? There has been a lot of new stuff since I moved from Leeds in 2007 I think.


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:18 pm
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Here's Chris Akrigg on it !

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Keep going back every so often (best done with a group of friends for moral support) and do a bit more each time. The Slab is just a point and let off the brakes, the Cole Shute is fairly easy with a positive attitude on the rocks at the bottom and most of the rock spines are something most people could achieve with some practice.

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Posted : 15/03/2009 5:23 pm
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Me rolling the drop, I'm too crap to drop it.
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It's steeper than it looks.


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:23 pm
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i rolled it... 😆
but rolling it when you are built like the honey monster is not easy...


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:24 pm
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Who hit the tree, Simon?


 
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Ah right - I think the descent line was still being created when I last rode Stainburn. Thanks for the links. I would deffo roll that one too.


 
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Ton - I know and you wouldn't want a torn nipple again !!

None of the pictures or videos ever make anything look steep.

- it wasn't actually your nipple but it's more funny.


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:26 pm
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Jonny. He posts on the SingletrAction forum as Nobbynick.


 
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someone said there were some trails in the woods above the road at the top, is this true?


 
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The only bits I struggled with were the tech uphills 😀


 
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Yes - there are some trails and there are little bits of Northshore, but the problem is that the forestry work can sometimes wreck the trails.

DjGlover - yeah, there are some tough climbs but it makes for great interval training!


 
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someone said there were some trails in the woods above the road at the top, is this true?

There [b]were[/b].
The felling work has wrecked most of them.
We have plans to re-do them longer and better, but it takes time.


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 5:33 pm
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i went over to the other side.
and they are wrecked...


 
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I'd be up for helping rebuild them. just gimme a spade and show me where to dig!


 
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There's a load of log rides gone in, info here [url= http://www.singletraction.org.uk/news2/fullnews.php?id=52 ]Stainburn log rides[/url]

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Nice one Ton.


 
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we were up there too today trying to defeat the log rides. some of the best technical trails in the u of k... props to the creators


 
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Cheers for the pics. I didnt realise there was so much there now. Looks like it really makes for a great day out practicing and re-taking things. Yeah - well done the builders, especially as there is more for intermediate riders now as well as the MTB gods.


 
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Ton: Was it you I was talking to this morning?

Went today also had a great but rocky day! Came off on Hovis corner, I will give it another go next time. Lots and lots of fun though, also did the rock drop at speed on the runs towards the end of the day.

Stainburn Pan
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My bike at Stainburn Forest


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 7:18 pm
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if it was a handsome bloke on a marin then yes it was me... 😆

i do recognise you sx tho..


 
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ton: lol Aye, i did end up pushing it back upto the car park most of the day! 😛


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 7:28 pm
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i am thinking about building a 'stainburn' type bike.
to try and master the kind of stuff there.
i have ridden all over the country, and done most of the trail centers, but this place is pretty unique i think.
i would be pushing back upto the top so pedalability is not a issue.
i also think a full on dh bike would have too much travel.
also the place is very harsh on rear mechs, i have killed 2 there.
anyone have a ideal bike for stainburn...


 
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Maybe Hardtail, ultra short chain stays, loads of standover, high bb, 5-6" fork, clearance for wide (low pressure) tire, something like a Cotic Bfe or DB Alpine..?


 
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Half the fun (for me) is riding back up.
I had a Rocky Ridge for a while, it rode well at Stainburn, as does my 456 and my Teocali. Once rode a Marin Quake around the Boulder Trail, which was good on the downs but too heavy to ride back up the hill.
IMO a 5" travel hardtail or full suss is ideal for Stainburn, anything burlier and you're gonna be pushing up the hills.

I find my (lack of) skills and confidence more limiting than the bike I'm riding.


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 8:00 pm
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to be honest, my rocky ridge was good today.
1st time i have ridden it in a good testing enviroment, and it proved good.


 
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I found some of the tech sections on the boulder trail more difficult on a full suss (patriot) than my hardtail due to the stop-start-balance nature of the way I rode it, if only I had rad trials skilz...


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 8:04 pm
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agreed, i rode it on a heckler in the past
the sections that you find yourself balancing and thrutching on were loads harder with the suspension movement..


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 8:06 pm
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Is that you onto another bike Ton?


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 8:08 pm
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stew, just a play bike... 8)


 
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Was a cracking day at Stainburn today. Ton, that was me and my son riding the pump track this morning.

I remembered just how good Stainburn was today 🙂


 
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I was up there today too, bust my shock too which i wasnt happy about. Its a technical place to go i got the missus to take a few pics while i rode it sessioning parts, One of my funniest pics from the day has to be the one below, This is my face of 'oh shit' 5ft off the ground and i snagged my pedal on the top, This was when my shock had gone and i hadnt realised 😳 wondered where all my clearance had gone Still i got round it 8)

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Posted : 15/03/2009 8:24 pm
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looks fun 🙂 🙂


 
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That looks excellent.


 
Posted : 15/03/2009 8:51 pm
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on the patriot??
agreed it is a great place to go and either session stuff till you perfect it or just do the descent line over and over.

i like stainburn..


 
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Good ain't it Tony. Every time I go back I enjoy it more and more than the last. Having ridden a variety of bikes there (including a Pashley 24MHz with slick tyres, one gear and one brake - I was as quick as my mate on his Patriot on the descents but not out of choice!) I can safely say my Blur 4X is by far the best. Just enough to take the sting out of the big stuff but rips around like a hardtail. But thats why I got it...


 
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Having spent far too much time in the woods (and not enough of it riding) I've seen folks ride it on almost every and anything. As some half-arsed roadie once said, it's not about the bike (which given my own "collection" is a bit rich 😉

There's an awful lot of folk up there nowadays on "big" bikes which, IMO, is a bit of a waste. The trails work as a series of loops (double black / Boulder trail, red loop, red out/Descent Line/double black climb, cheeky/secret Aldo's line/double black climb). You can do any of these (and other) combinations and as many times as you like / can keep turningthe cranks. Big bikes (or thir riders 😉 can't do the "up" bit, which just seems like you're only getting the most out of half the trail.

Whatever though, better out riding on whatever you've got than not 🙂

All are welcome at Dig Days (first Sunday of the month, check out [url] http://www.singletraction.org.uk [/url]) if you ever fancy putting a bit back in. Certainly over the next two months extra bodies would be great to crack on with the Descent Line Extension.


 
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Looks like a lots been done since I was last there 18 months ago. Its the hardest patch of built trails I've ridden in the UK, I'd say. Other than Stone Edge quarry in chesterfield!


 
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DBW, I think i may have seen you today if you was up there with two other riders? I heard someone muttering about only one brake and then got passed my a blur. I was at the rock drop on a Heckler and my missus with the camera two of your mates went over it while you took the alternate route.


 
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Dig days at Stainburn (1st sunday of every month) are very rewarding. Everyone who rides trail centres should think about putting something back 😉

A few images from our recent digs

Descent Line extension (20 people turned out that day :mrgreen: )
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Log rides being made all weather
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PJ knackerising a log
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Laying Sample grippy boards
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A big hats off to the original guys like Cheeky Monkey, who built it.


 
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Its still big enough to scare me though


 
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Rich, wasn't there yesterday but passing people on my Blur sounds familiar 😉


 
Posted : 16/03/2009 11:58 am
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[url=

playing at stainburn[/url]


 
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I found my lightish, 5 inch travel hardtail, with 2.4 tyres, was ideal.

I keep meaning to go back and have another go at the photos, I reckon my new wide angle lens will be better at capturing the difficulty and steepness. Because of the darkness of the woods I suppose, most pictures of Stainburn tend to be of the sections out in the open, like those above, which, as Ton says, are much easier than the stuff in the woods.


 
Posted : 16/03/2009 12:31 pm
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Lets not forget, no one is going to pay your mortgage if you spangle yourself. Leave the heroics to nippers 🙄


 
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Pook - nice video. Excellent use of the Benny Hill music 😀


 
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Nice video there,Pook.
Like the way you kept going back to do the log ride..."It will not beat me!!"


 
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Leave the heroics to nippers

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yesterday.[/url]

He was doing alright for a 6 year old on a 20" wheeled bike with about an inch and half of suspension 😀 Plenty of 'proud dad' moments.

PS How big is too big to pedal up hill at Stainburn ?


 
Posted : 16/03/2009 2:40 pm
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mark, owt heavier than a 25lbs bike for me..... 😉


 
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Wahoo.
Well, I will be visiting on Saturday and will just be happy to not mangle myself too badly. Given my extremely low fear threshold, that shouldn't be too much bother. I tend to overbrake and then topple over at an almost stationary pace.


 
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looks good, how long do people end up riding there for (1/2 day or is it worth spending a full day there)? as its a long way from me, so I would try and do a 3 day weekend and combine it with some proper ridings in the Yorkshire Dales.


 
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Half a day is probably enough. Remember there are no facilities. In time you should be able to spend a good day there once the naturals trails on the other side of the road are reinstated.


 
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what happened to the trails on the other side of the road? and are they likely to be reinstated this year? or is it an ongoing project?


 
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Looks like a fun place.


 
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Mark: it's not how big it is but how you use it 😉 If you can pedal the "big" bike up then kudos. TBH there's plenty of "not big" bikes get pushed up too. Mleh, I know you get my drift 😉

Forestry operations trashed Norwood (the "other" side). They had previously designated the trails over there as "informal", hey ho. We have permission to reclaim them. This will probably involve a fair bit of re-alignment to improve matters.

As for timescale it's very hard to say. Originally the trails were simply pre-existing stuff and some brashed lines, maybe a tiny bit of organic was swept off. There was a bit of re-routing and some limited sections got re-built/reclaimed after phases of felling that occured during the last couple of years. This got us to where we were before the most recent felling phase (and there's one more still to come).

Depending on how we reclaim it might work to simply clear our intended route of brash. This might give enough for people to ride almost immediately. TBH this is unlikely as felling works are incredibly hard on the ground as it is and knacker whatever ad hoc drainage existed before hand. You can but hope ........

Then the long slow process of building (to whatever standard we agree with FE) can begin. First though we have to finish the Extension to the Descent Line.

In short, there might be something rideable in 6 months time (ever the optimist 😉 In reality it'll probably be a year unless something special happens.


 
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Cheers for the heads up 🙂


 
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Personally I prefer the stuff up top (above the road). Loads of drops, mini downhills, jumps and all sorts.

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of us at Stainburn up top[/url]

Oh... and me on the drop...

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There is loads to ride in Stainburn, all ridable after a few attempts. Next time you go back you'll be 10x better.


 
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did you make that? you look very nose down for the landing


 
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Hey guys I'd like to say well done, some great challenges there. And I did the rock drop on the descent line on Sujday which I was chuffed at. Learning how to ride my Pitch Pro as it's my first full suss bike and Stainburn has certainly helped!! Me and two friends went on Sunday and we all loved it. I think we may have seen some of the people who have posted on here too.
We will be back for sure, keep up the good work!


 
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Yeah made it fine. It's a little bit of a downward sloped landing and the camera angle is a bit skewiff!


 
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Me on the pump track on Sunday, just look how niche my bike is 😉

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More pics [url= http://singletraction.frankencrank.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2705 ]here.[/url]


 
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sorry for the hijack but, Jimmy, where is this stone edge quarry you speak of? as a chesterfield local that sounds interesting!


 
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robdob: Was it you I was talking to in the carpark before you went home?


 
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Yeah, might have been. What a nice day it was!!!


 
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