[Closed] Hope 10-44t Cassette

99.95euro on bike-components 😀

Cassette and chain here... it's even gone down a tenner since I got mine.

https://www.bike-components.de/en/SRAM/XG-1150-Kassette-PC-X1-Kette-11-fach-Verschleissset-p47071/

The cassette on it's own is 105 🙂

https://www.bike-components.de/en/SRAM/XG-1150-11-fach-Kassette-p43639/

Thanks hadn't heard of bike - components before, was looking on bike discount etc

Cassette and chain here... it's even gone down a tenner since I got mine.

Grabbing one or two as spares at that price might be prudent.

(I wish I was prudent)

Are you sure that's the GX one as even Sram say it is almost 400 [url= https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/products/xg-1150-full-pin-cassette ]https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/products/xg-1150-full-pin-cassette[/url]

My X1 (XG-1180) was 314g, claimed 315 (outraged!) but then it's double the price, came on the bike but might replace with GX when it wears out for the 80g or so penalty as half the price

Just weighed a GX in the shop and it was 392g

That must be an X1 pictured - X1's have alu 42t sprockets, while GX's are steel.

That's definitely a GX pictured as its pinned on every sprocket - On the x1 the last 3 sprockets are machined.

Weight is less than stated though - maybe the scales are off?

Aluminium sprockets don't last?

Is that just the wrong aluminium then? Surely the chain ring is aluminium? The tension at both ends of the chain is the same. The chain ring is always in use. If the sprocket larger than the chainring it even goes round less often. So my assumption is that wear in the system is dominated by the chain ring wearing and causing chain growth, which then destroys the cassette

That's definitely a GX pictured as its pinned on every sprocket - On the x1 the last 3 sprockets are machined.

Weight is less than stated though - maybe the scales are off?

Good point.
There's an OE PG1160 IIRC, maybe it's that? GX with an alu 42t?

Adam@BikeWorks - Member
Just weighed a GX in the shop and it was 392g

That must be an X1 pictured - X1's have alu 42t sprockets, while GX's are steel.

Just been out to shed to weight the one I got from the Bike Components link above - it's 0.4kg on my bike scale, so the quoted 392g is probably about right - the pictured one is probably the OEM one above with the alu 42t, or someones been playing silly buggers

unless you are an hope/orange whore why would you bother. I'll take the extra weight and save £115 with my XT cassette.

Isn't it less than the top end sram ones loads of people defend the price of or am I missing something?

Certainly the Hope and SRAM cassettes are lighter than shimano like for like but does that equate to durability? Shimano stuff lasts me ages, how do the lighter SRAM cassettes hold up?

Xx1 lasting very well for me. Better than 10s XTR.

But isn't the hope one aimed at the top end? Not looked in to the figures but isn't it decent value compared to the top sram?

Sram xx1/x01 cassettes are available with heavy discounts. Hope stuff is rarely available discounted. This makes the sram comparable to the hope. Moreover the sram uses a freehub body available on almost any hub, and it's mostly steel.

I agree.... Sram really got ahead of the game with their 11 speed kit.

£175 is 229Euro - that's the exact price of the top end SRAM cassette on Bike-components.de

I am not surprised by the price of a boutique piece from Hope that has the USP of the biggest range at 10-44. I am (almost) surprised that the boutique price is competitive with a SRAM cassette.

I'm running a 1x10 setup with a 42T expander (on Hope hubs). If I'm going to be tempted by a 1x11 setup (and I can't run a 2x) then it will need to offer a larger range. If it were a bit lighter too that would be a bonus.

Shimano's standard offerings are a non-starter as they don't offer and more range than I have already (382%).

I could add a 45T expander to an 11 speed XT cassette to get a range of 409% but that's a fairly heavy option.

SRAM or Hope would both give a bigger range (420% for Sram and 440% for Hope). Weights and costs of both a similar and both would require me to buy a new freehub. There may be small differences in lifetime cost due to discounts and whether Hope offer the aluminium sprockets as a spare part on their own, but in practice the difference is small enough for me not to care.

Right, so the hope one is priced at the same level as it's obvious rival. Having had sram and hope in the past it would be an easy choice for me as sram is mince.

looks like e13 have rendered it obsolete before its out. Bigger range and it fits a 'standard' hub:

http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/diamonds-from-the-core-2016-part-2/

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£229 and I've still got to buy a new freehub for my Hope hubs on top of that! No thanks.

Reading all the horror stories from people trying to remove SRAM cassettes from XD freehubs I'm not too sure I fancy the XD design anyway. Although there is no guaranteeing that the Hope design will be any better I guess.

I don't need (or want) a 9T either, so 10-44 at £175 sounds like a better deal than 9-44 at £229 to me.

roverpig - Member

Reading all the horror stories from people trying to remove SRAM cassettes from XD freehubs I'm not too sure I fancy the XD design anyway

DUnno about that. You need to grease it and not ridiculously over tighten it. They come slathered in anti seize out of the box, so there's really only a problem if you're determined to make a mess of it.

sunrace mx3 11-42

was on offer for 40 quid from billys, think they are 50 now.......

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That's one hell of a range jump between 3 and 4! 😯

Price is in from CRC, £202.49!!

That's one hell of a range jump between 3 and 4

That CRC price £202.49 includes the new freehub required..
Cassette on its own is £157.49.

Can we assume the new freehub is just slightly shorter allowing the 10t sprocket to fit?
If thats the case, should be able to machine the old style down a bit..as long as its diameter is still the same.

Can we assume the new freehub is just slightly shorter allowing the 10t sprocket to fit?
If thats the case, should be able to machine the old style down a bit..as long as its diameter is still the same.

wouldn't you be machining the lockring threads away?
the outer bearing could sit further back also?

I've just bought the e-thirteen trs+ 9-44t from UBYK for £189. Will report back on it when it's fitted

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Seems a decent bit of kit - clever fixing method. Shifting not quite as crisp as the SRAM cassette, but still good and really nice to have that slightly extended range. No issues with the 9t cog at all.

I'm tempted by one of them when my current sram one wears out to also get the better range, slight concerns over some of the gaps but think it would be ok. I like that you can replace parts of it as well which should work well if you keep on top of measuring/monitoring

You'll have to replace parts, since so much of it is aluminium.

My Hope cassette has lost 2 teeth on a ride on Saturday.
It was on two of the aluminium sprockets.
Not very happy really, there is plenty of wear left on the cassette but it skips better than a bush kangaroo now.
Going try SRAM next!
Will try Hope for their warranty but dont hold out much hope as its busted teeth, probably wear and tear i guess.
Only 6 months old though and as i say plenty of wear left.

Most unsurprising post of the year

Send it back to Hope! I snapped a tooth on my T-rex a few years back and they sent a new one out straight away, had it in a few days.

Top tip Lawman91.
I sent it back and the lovely folk at Hope replaced the aluminium part of the cassette so all is good in the world.
Apologies to dirtyrider for possibly the 2nd most unsurprising post of the year.

Zeelack,
In general how do you like the cassette, and how is it wearing? How often do you ride?
Cheers

Zelak999, I apologise for my eye to hand coordination in previous post as I managed to change you to Zeelack!

Hi Dave, if I'm honest I found it a bit of a nightmare to set up for decent shifting.
It was wearing okay with 2-3 rides per week for 6 months but 2 of the aluminium teeth snapped off.
Hope replaced the ally bit under warranty though.
I'm running an X01 cassette now which shifts a lot nicer.