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Hello,
Can anyone advise me on wether or not i can get a 3 piece crank for a 52mm bb?


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 1:41 pm
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or the bb size for this frame please


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 9:28 pm
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The bottom bracket will be 68mm or 72mm.

Yes, you'll need a euro bb, one like this for example:

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/odyssey/euro-bb-ec021294?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=froogle

But first you'll need to pick some cranks as you'll have a 19mm (profile/DMR/Wethepeople) or 22mm (primo/odyssey) axle to pick from. After that you'll be able to buy the correct bb.


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 9:41 pm
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the lad has a shimano 52mm in at the moment


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 9:47 pm
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They don't exist.


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 9:51 pm
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This was what he said mate. If i remeber right its a Shimano UN52 bottom bracket so i guess its 52mm


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 9:53 pm
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so thats 68mm right?


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 9:58 pm
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Ahhhhhhh.

Nah, UN52 is just the model number. They did a UN52 and a UN72 (think deore/XT). The numbers don't represent shell size.

Either way, if you buy a euro bb for BMX style cranks (which is what i presume you're taking about) it'll come with the correct amount of spacers to fit either size bb shell.


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 9:59 pm
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Right i get you,
I was looking at this set?
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=60722


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 10:04 pm
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Yeah, they'll fit. But honestly, i wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DMR-CULT-BMX-DIRT-JUMP-CRANKS-175MM-WHITE-19MM-SPINDLE-/250834712620?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item3a66e9f82c#ht_500wt_1156

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUPER-LIGHTWEIGHT-DIAMONDBACK-3-PIECE-BMX-PRO-CRANK-SET-/270730836913?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&var=&hash=item84b7af42f0#ht_788wt_907

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stolen-Team-3-Piece-BMX-Cranks-Green-/110523672832?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item19bbb96900#ht_500wt_1156

All of these are lightyears ahead in quality. But just remember you may need to buy a Euro BB to fit them, the cranks i've listed are all 19mm spindle which allows for the bb to contain larger bearings (better!). Primo cranks are indestructible, but they run a 22mm spindle which make the bearings in a euro bb tiny so they're best avoided unless you're running a Mid BB.


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 10:21 pm
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I see nothing wrong with the Octane One cranks , I'd always opt for a pinch bolt for a little extra security. I've used a similar "budget" crank with no issues (Gusset EXP).


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 10:30 pm
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The pinch bolt allows for movement on the spindle, allowing the fit to warp under stress. Primo have a pinch bolt but offer a hex design axle, as opposed to the 8 spline found on most cheaper BMX pinch cranks.

Just my opinion (8 years riding BMX), so do as you will. But at least we've sorted the bb issue.

- After some internet hunting, it would seem your frames got a 68mm bb


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 10:38 pm
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well ive only run trials on mission cranks (square)
I was under the impression spline were the stronger option but all depends on quality i suppose.
what about the pig cranks?
also thanks for the help do you have a link to the frame at all?


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 10:47 pm
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I presume you mean FSA pig?

I've not heard about them for ages, but i remember picking a set up about 5 years ago and thinking they were made of forged iron.

would you be able to post a link to the frame you're buying?

If i'm correct then it's a catalogue frame, the same as a baracuda subway, Brand X (crc) and many others. I had one way back when, not a bad frame.


 
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Posted : 11/06/2011 10:56 pm
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http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-specialized-hardrock-hydraulic-disc-and-heavy-tools-jump-bike

Minus the identit sticker


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 10:57 pm
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Yeah that's the one. frame with a thousand names (that doesn't mean it's bad though)

I'd look at some old isis cranks personally (truvative husselfetl etc), BB's last longer, cheaper, in most cases just as strong.


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 11:03 pm
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what other names does it come under mate?


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 11:05 pm
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this forum never ceaaes to amaze me - ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 11:06 pm
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I cant think off the top of my head. Each one had different gusset's etc, but search for Barracuda Subway, Brand X (crc sold them about 1/2 years ago) even the identiti frame has the same specs.


 
Posted : 11/06/2011 11:11 pm
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I had fsa pigs on my bmx - the pedal thread broke off accelerating from some traffic lights - i dont mean stripped i mean the last 3 cm of the crank snapped off - how ever they had alot of punishment in the skatepark at jumping stairs etc before that


 
Posted : 12/06/2011 8:39 am
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After a good old search i have now opted to give this frame a wide berth after reading how many re-brands there are and how shoddy the welding is.

Thanks for the info.

I have just bought a goose ritual heavy but steel ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 12:10 pm
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heavy tools was the original and possibly the best iteration of the framer.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 12:28 pm
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I had this frame. It was, by far, the most sturdy bit of kit I've ever owned.


 
Posted : 13/06/2011 12:53 pm