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Looking to upgrade my Genesis Croix de Fer steel frame for something a bit faster and lighter. Bike is mainly used for on/off road touring and as a winter road bike.

Cross frames such as Kinesis [url= http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/products/crosslight/prosix ]Pro 6[/url] look fine but quite interested in a titanuim for durability and comfort.

Anyone bought one of those "cheap" J&L or similar frames from eBay ?

Would consider a 29er frame also but seems impossible to get one with disc and rack mounts..


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 10:52 pm
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Norco threshold?


 
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[url= http://www.hotlines-uk.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=86252 ]Lynskey[/url]


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 10:55 pm
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One of these obviously. Made out of steel an all so it should last. http://www.shandcycles.com/frames/


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 10:57 pm
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Is that and Amazon scotroutes?


 
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Aye.

I did LeJog with it, I've toured with it and I sometimes run it with 35mm tyres as a "CX-alike". Forks are Kinesis DC-19s but there are others available.

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Posted : 19/05/2013 10:59 pm
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Norco only seems to come as complete bike


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:00 pm
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Looks spot on.. Tempted by one of those or the new Kinesis ATR Tripster (although info a bit sparse on price and availability)


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:01 pm
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Tripster is a good option. I'd have one of them!


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:02 pm
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What the new ti one?


 
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If I didn't already have the Amazon it would be a very close call regarding which to buy. Prices look to be almost the same too.


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:06 pm
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Spa Cycles titanium Tourer, Roughstuff or Audax?

They are getting stupidly good reviews.


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:07 pm
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[quote=Rusty Spanner ]Spa Cycles titanium Tourer, Roughstuff or Audax?
They are getting stupidly good reviews.
No disks though?


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:22 pm
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A bit off the wall but might work....

[url= http://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=raijin ]kona ti 29er[/url]


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:28 pm
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No disks though?

Good point!

I'd forgotten about that.


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:31 pm
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Would need some adapter set up for rack like this I guess...

[url= http://www.axiomgear.com/products/gear/racks/streamliner-series/streamliner-road-dlx/ ]Axiom racks[/url]


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:33 pm
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Mine takes a Topeak Super Tourist DX with no fiddling around.


 
Posted : 19/05/2013 11:36 pm
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The point of those Axiom racks is using them with bikes with short chain stays - road bikes and some MTBs. It moves the load backwards - if you are a taller chap with bigger feet it stops you're heals catching on the panniers. I use one on an old Giant OCR where the stays are so short the tyre has worn a groove in the front mech band, that combined with size 13 feet makes panniers a fankle. You wouldn't need them so much for a touring or cross frame.


 
Posted : 20/05/2013 8:21 am
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So have narrowed down to Kinesis Pro6 or ATR Tripster ti......

So final thought....is it worth to the extra grand for the ti?


 
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Kaffenback?


 
Posted : 20/05/2013 9:10 am
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Wouldn't be an upgrade over the genesis CdF


 
Posted : 20/05/2013 9:14 am
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croix de fer, kaffenback & the vaya (which i've got) are all similar weights. I doubt that much off the shelf steel is significantly lighter.

You need to be looking at other materials. that said you'll probably loose more in other places...


 
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[quote=huggis ]So have narrowed down to Kinesis Pro6 or ATR Tripster ti......
So final thought....is it worth to the extra grand for the ti?
Difficult one.

I bought an El Mariachi frame recently and it was £1,000 difference between the steel and the Ti. I bought the steel on the basis that £1,000 would pay for a nice holiday somewhere that I could actually use the thing 🙂

However, I still lust after the Ti version. I do like my Ti.

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Fargo Ti?

I have the basic steel one which is fab but too heavy for you. The Ti one must be a fair bit lighter. Designed as an offroad capable tourer so should fit the bill.

Pricey though but then all Ti framers are.


 
Posted : 20/05/2013 11:17 am
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Thanks for everyone's inputs - Kenesis Tripster ATR ti ordered!

Any thoughts on how to tell the wife 😉


 
Posted : 20/05/2013 2:59 pm