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...Paramo jackets.

I am gobsmacked. I have for years struggled with waterproof jackets that were never really breathable enough for cycling and I'd tried a few brands and a few fabrics. This year I bit the bullet and bought a [url= http://www.paramo.co.uk/en-gb/garments/detail/index.php?pgc=NIKWAXANALOGYSMOCKVELEZUNISEX ]Paramo Velez smock[/url]. Granted it will probably be too warm for summer, but I've ridden pretty hard on mountain and road bike since Autumn and it is so comfortable and so breathable that I can't believe it is actually waterproof as well. A walk up to (and under) Kinder downfall in the rain proved the waterproofing.

Recommended. That's all.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 1:38 pm
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Agreed. I've not used paramo but my buffalo belay jkt and montane pertex n pile jackets are way better than goretex. I can't stand clammy wproofs.. I do wish there were more pertex-pile jackets designed for cycling tho, mtn jackets tend to be a bit too thick. Berghaus cirrus is the best i've found but not so water resistant.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 2:15 pm
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Try Paramo. It is waterproof. Having suffered with expensive not-that-breathable and not-that-waterproof jackets from Gore-Tex, eVent and the like, having something that actually does what I've been after for so long is like some sort of Black Magic 😀

Odd that is is rarely mentioned in the bike mags as an option...or at least not that I've noticed.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 2:32 pm
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Iv'e used Paramo for years and it's flipping brilliant!

Their UK base in in Wadhurst which is pretty close to me and they have a shop selling slight seconds and end of line stuff at good prices as well. Marvellous!


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 2:35 pm
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As good as it may be, I can't imagine I'll be spending £200 on a jacket and then subjecting it to all the abuse that my £20 Nike Dryfit jackets get!


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 2:37 pm
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£200 it should be good 🙂


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 2:42 pm
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I'm always amazed why you never see them in a test of winter jackets. I've used them for years - well all paramo stuff and it just works all the time + I only need a base layer underneath the smock as it's just right.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 2:46 pm
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£200 is pretty standard for a waterproof jacket. When I worked in an outdoor shop 20 years ago many were £200 then too. Granted there are a lot of cycling brands that are cheaper, but I'd rather pay £200 once for something that works than count up the many many pounds I've spent over the years on kit that doesn't.

I remember having a £200 North Face GoreTex jacket 20 years ago. My Dad had the same style. Both - and many others like it - leaked like a sieve.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 2:47 pm
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Love my Quito but it seems a bit too fragile (made from the Analogy stuff) and too nice to mountain bike in. Still I hardly ever need to wear a waterproof anyway.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:00 pm
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a bit too fragile

On my first outing in my Velez smock I took a tumble that left me in A & E requiring stitches in my arm. The jacket did get a small tear in it but it survived better than my skin! At least it will still work.

I hardly ever need to wear a waterproof anyway

With the best intentions in the world I've been caught out in horrific conditions. I remember once going out in grim weather in just a breathable windproof. It was only an hour or so's ride so I thought I'd be OK and keep warm. By the time I got home I was so cold and wet I had to get into the shower fully clothed. I've seen friends close to hypothermic when caught it with just wind-proofs on wild, wet and windy moors. With the Paramo I still get the breathability but the confidence that'll I'll stay dry if the heavens open. Win win.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:09 pm
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Only problem with Paramo for me is the fit for biking - the back rides up and the sleeves are WAY WAY too short for me.

But the breathability & waterproofness are better than any bike-specific jacket. Can be a bit warm though!


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:22 pm
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Does that one have insulation? I usually find these too warm, certainly true of Buffalo unless sat on a belay all day.

For me, high energy activities like biking and running usually need base layer+pertex unless lying around in the heather broken....


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:25 pm
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Mine (the Velez) has "some" insulation. Not sure if it is designed as insulation or simply a by-product of the design. Nothing like a Buffalo though. Back in September I wore it with a Coolmax T shirt when bombing around Kirroughtree. If it got too warm there was plenty of good ventilation and the sleeves can be rolled up. I went out at the weekend with a long sleeved base layer and it was just beginning to get cold at times. Late Spring will be the test, where it may be a touch too warm. Still, the point is that it is so breathable I don't seem to mind getting a bit too warm. I believe there is a lighter/thinner version though which may be better for just cycling, whereas mine tends to be a bit of a multi-activity jacket. Probably wouldn't run in it unless i was out in sub-zero.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:30 pm
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Stilltortoise you can get your jacket repaired by Paramo. Make sure you send it back clean though.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:39 pm
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Cheers Sandwich. I was going to wait until I get a few more "wounds". The tear I have so far is pretty small and out of the way.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:41 pm
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Actually, no need to ship to Paramo, you can just sew the fabric yourself, no loss of performance.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:54 pm
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The Velez is too hot for riding down here in the sarf. I use a paramo Fuera windproof if it's cold/wet over the top of a mountain shirt. With the windproof over the top of the shirt, you get full waterproofing too. Great combo for winter riding.


 
Posted : 02/12/2011 3:57 pm