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[i]I think the point is that Police don't have resources to follow hunts so the AR lot do it.[/i]
So, you're saying she was a vigilante then?
police won't do anything about it, so we'll take it into our own hands, and it doesn't matter what laws we break, cause its all for the poor ickle foxie woxies innit ๐ฅ
As the days of packs of hounds chasing foxes is legally over
Is that "Legally Over" like the packs of hounds that meet twice a week to "Legally" chase deer on the Quantocks???
that im definately not an expert on...anyone else have knowledge..?
I don't believe all AR folk behave as above - what's your evidence? OR is it just anecdote?
i've seen plenty of video evidence that this has happened, they may not be all d1cks though...just like not all cyclists are d1cks ๐
I don't think people necessarily have a problem with controlling populations of foxes/rats/ants or whatever.I think what a lot of people do find odd/objectionable is treating the killing of creatures as a fun day out for all the family.
Also, when the people doing it are challenged and act a bit baffled when asked 'Hang on isn't there a better way we coudl do this in the 21st century?'. I really don't see that 'just because we always have' is any reason to carry on with a particular activity.
I agree with this.
If the AR are behaving as CFH says, they're no better than the nob end foxhunters.
I think what a lot of people do find odd/objectionable is treating the killing of creatures as a fun day out for all the family.
thats an argument that has nothing whatsoever to do with the cruelty argument - if it causes pain/suffering then it causes no more, or less pain and suffering whether there are two people there, or fifty - for what its worth, most of the "real" pest control hunting was done on weekdays without many followers, hounds flushing to guns and terrier work for example.
Also, when the people doing it are challenged and act a bit baffled when asked 'Hang on isn't there a better way we coudl do this in the 21st century?'. I really don't see that 'just because we always have' is any reason to carry on with a particular activity.
The Burns report accepted that in upland areas hunting was the most effective and least cruel option, that in those areas hunts were responsible for up to 70% of the fox tally, and concluded a ban would have a negative impact on fox welfare in upland areas - the politico's chose to ignore this fact when they drafted the law, as it was about politics, not animal welfare.
I recently read about "people" who go on holiday to places like Canada so that they can shoot bears. For fun. What sort of ****ing degenerate uses their precious holiday time, pays money and then [i]enjoys[/i] shooting a bear?
****ing shameful it is.
Karma will even up with these pricks eventually.
wrecker, people with too much money ๐
anyway back to the topic at hand, he wasnt wearing a helmet so was he asking for it...good job he never went through a red light either
Would a better tactic have been to walk in front of the cyclist thus impeding his view, sort of like live russian dolls on the road?
Maybe if a fox had shot out from the hedgerow and knocked him off the bike like that antelope/mtber incident.
Maybe if a fox had shot out from the hedgerow and knocked him off the bike like that antelope/mtber incident.
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wrecker, people with too much money
Does money turn people into ****s?
Does money turn people into ****s?
Not always - some are born that way....
The Burns report accepted that in upland areas hunting was the most effective and least cruel option
They seem to manage without them up here in the Highlands - the stalkers/gamekeepers/farmers and so on just go out lamping at night and shoot them.
...and who employs the gamekeepers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who sells the stalking to the shooters, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who leases the land to the farmers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
who is also the person who goes big game hunting, and puts it all back into our lovely economy...these people are what keeps it all turning, whether we like it or not
and i bet they started off as bankers!
My nearest toff is that exact person, ex hong kong judge, bought an estate turned it into a viable business created loads of jobs and made the village a lovely place to be again
who is also the person who goes big game hunting, and puts it all back into our lovely economy...these people are what keeps it all turning, whether we like it or not
Dear god, you are broaching that kind of viewpoint on STW. You'd best be wearing a flame suit, it's a lefty/socialist haven here!
its ok, i commuted on my single speed today with my converse ๐ณ
beside's its just an opinion, i thought thats what the net was for so nobodies can spew mindless vomit... ๐
...and who employs the gamekeepers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who sells the stalking to the shooters, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
...who leases the land to the farmers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
And when hunting is banned, the toff is still going to need the pests controlled is he not?
Bears aren't "game"; they're Bears.
...and who employs the gamekeepers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
Round here, that'll be the rich foreigners who don't go fox hunting.
...who sells the stalking to the shooters, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
The rich foreigner who doesn't go fox hunting.
...who leases the land to the farmers, the toff with all the money who goes hunting
The National Trust for Scotland. Who don't run fox hunts.
That aside, I was simply pointing out that round here, there are no fox hunts, and they are successfully controlled by shooting them with rifles.
And when hunting is banned, the toff is still going to need the pests controlled is he not?
there going to ban hunting..? hasnt that got to get passed somewhere...house of toff's have a say dont they... ๐ sure i read somewhere before about them trying to ban that toff sport...
Bears aren't "game"; they're Bears
in this country...elsewhere they are game and part of an economy ๐
That cyclist was being deliberately antagonistic - was lucky that just a woman (with a nice butt) got out and assaulted him.
Whoa betide a natural resource like big game being a valuable product for marginal communities, eh!
http://www.campfirezimbabwe.org/
http://www.campfirezimbabwe.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=85
yes we can all google things, [url= http://www.safaris-africa.co.uk/big5.htm ]africa shooting safari link[/url] im not promoting it or defaming it, im just saying it does bring an income to those areas.
[i]im just saying it does bring an income to those areas.[/i]
Blood diamonds bring an income. It doesn't necessarily make them right...
Blood diamonds bring an income. It doesn't necessarily make them right...
true, but a lot of this is down to the person's POV, for instance if you'd worn a pink shirt and ate prawn sandwiches at a football match in the 70's people may not have been that welcoming either ๐ณ
*thinks his own simile is rubbish*
can someone point me back to where we were going with this...
Shes got a nice ass 8)
can someone point me back to where we were going with this...
Erm. No.
HTH.
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Has anyone mentioned her bottom yet?
No idea, Dez. Apparently Hora's seen her donkey, though, and is very appreciative of it.
Whoa betide a natural resource like [s]big game[/s]slavery being a valuable product for marginal communities, eh
You also have to apply some morals here... money is not everything...child prostitution and sex trafficking makes money [ aint capitalism great] but i assume you dont support them even though they are profitable
If you turn up the contrast and hold at 0.39 I'm sure I can see a camels toe
You also have to apply some morals here... money is not everything...child prostitution and sex trafficking makes money [ aint capitalism great] but i assume you dont support them even though they are profitable
i do agree with your point, however i dont agree that the above is the same as big game hunting or in turn that BGH is the same as people with horns following a fox scent across fields for sport
if you disagree, thats your opinion which is different to mine...STW in different opinions shocker
ps thanks flashy! ๐
Interesting how different bits of the truth come together to change the meaning completely.
First impression was that they guy didn't look like most cyclists. Next questions were who was filming it and why? And, where did she come from?
Now it all makes sense. Can't help thinking there have been a few clashes between the fox hunting and animal rights groups which we will never see -a good thing!
All I need now is a venomous female ninja button to sort out the rude and aggressive drivers.
The reason we know its nothing to do with controlling vermin is that fox populations are encouraged in hunting areas. Foxes are fed and artificial earths are dug. Also in some areas no hunting and no expolsion of fox numbers. Hunting with dogs is deliberately cruel
As for hunt sabs - routinely violently attacked by hunt supporters who are a vile bunch of sadistic thugs and rightly get prosecuted for it including a good few who do jail time.
http://www.realca.co.uk/violence/hunt-convictions
http://hsa.enviroweb.org/index.php/library/160-2decadesviolence
You will get there usual suspects on here defending this vile and barbaric practice.
they don't do much to control the fox population in urban areas either...
but she made a mistake - instead of pushing until he toppled to the other side she should have pushed for a while and then stepped away - he would have toppled straight over into the hedge on the right .
i do agree with your point, however i dont agree that the above is the same as big game hunting
Both involve scumbags with a moral vacuum.
You will get there usual suspects on here defending this vile and barbaric practice
you will also get people on here disagreeing with other people views that hunt sabs are vile and barbaric
Five of the saboteurs were arrested on suspicion of possessing an offensive weapon.These included horse whips and planks of wood with rope attached.
[url= http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/Anti-hunt-saboteurs-arrested-protest-Huntley/story-11867672-detail/story.html ]thisisgloucestershire[/url]
The reason we know its nothing to do with controlling vermin is that fox populations are encouraged in hunting areas. Foxes are fed and artificial earths are dug. Also in some areas no hunting and no expolsion of fox numbers. Hunting with dogs is deliberately cruel
Is there actually factual evidence or this or here say?
Factual evidence repeated on many instances over a long period of time.
which is where, dont get me wrong if there is then it is totally out of order and is IMO abhorrent (sp?)
It's nothing to do with controlling vermin, and who gives a damn, it's about having fun. As is eating meat. They both result in animals dying purely for our pleasure.
From the independent article:
While the LACS acknowledged that it could provide no direct evidence that the named hunts were complicit with the building and maintenance of the artificial earths,
From the LACS report:
The League has no evidence to offer that the named hunts were in anyway complicit with the building and maintenance of these fox earths, or with the dumping of offal and other potential fox food at the earths.
So, your point was?
While the LACS acknowledged that it could provide no direct evidence that the named hunts were complicit with the building and maintenance of the artificial earths, it said: "It is clear that someone has been maintaining the earths on the country of these 21 hunts, and one must question whether or not this can be pure coincidence."Tim Bonner, a spokesman for the Masters of Foxhounds Association, denied that the artificial earths had anything to do with the hunts named in the report.
but yes that is VERY suspect and IMO not sport or for the purpose of vermin control.
What did the authorities say to this, have the police investigated?
re; the second link, a farmer throwing a dead lamb into the hedge, OR a fox killing a lamb is not new news
re; third link
October 30, 2011 - 7 months on have police pressed charges...
Can anyone recommend a woman repellent?