[Closed] etiquette on classifieds.......

IMO its always the 1st with the cash gets the goods, unless the person who has said they will have them 1st has contacted you and arranged payment etc

Dibbs means jack unless they've emailed and asked to arrange payment.

You don't have to [b]do[/b] anything.

But its nice to give the first person who shows intrest the first refusal. If they haven't completed the transaction in a timely manner, it then should open up to other intrested parties.

dibbs is for anyone under 15
just sell to whoever says they'll take it & do the deal straight away

it cant be a race to send you money, otherwise youll end with a pile of money and one item to send out?

first to approach you to arrange payment i think

"ill have it" wont do
"ill have it, i have emailed you" gets it!

1st reply feels right.
I accidently sold to someone who'd emailed me, then noticed a reply on the forum expecting a response on there. Felt a bit of a git, but the poster was find about it.

First person who can pay IMO.

I will always try and accomodate anybody who says "I'm interested, but can't pay til next week" or something, but someone wants what I'm selling, and they can stump up the cash/paypal/cheque/bank transfer then and there, it's theirs!

Bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush etc.

cash is king as far as I am concerned. Ok, other potential buyers might end up disappointed however if I wanted an item that badly but needed further info to confirm quality etc. I would arrange to put a deposit down to secure the item.
I have to admit I saw the advert before lunch and thought I would do a quick bit of research and put a bid in but I took far too long at lunch and missed out.

i feel better now. 8)

i thought the i'll take it pending a pic and you knowing they would look good in a pic was a pretty sure sale but its up to the seller really tho id have been pi55ed off with it as i prefer to have a quick pic of something before i buy, unless i know the seller of course. id have trusted you as ive met and delt with you before but ive had pix from other people as some peoples great nic is crap to other people 😉 tho as said as always cash is king

I reckon if one person will pay if the pictures look alright and one person will pay without seeing pictures then the second guy gets it. That's the second guy pricing risk, or something. Don't be too hard on yourself. 😉

to be honest i never ask for a pic.
i trust people on here and so far have never been let down.

if someone offers you cash, and you believe that offer to be genuine, then it's theirs as far as I'm concerned.

This whole dibbs thing is toss, as I believe it puts off other buyers who may actually take the item as they think it's already sold. equally the number of picture collectors on here that request pictures and you never hear from them again is ridiculous. There's quite a few people whose "pics please" will just get ignored from me as they seem to want pictures of everything that's for sale!

Equally if I get an email from someone that sneaks in before an email from someone who has also posted a reply here, the latter gets it every time.

But the one that really gets me is the WTD ads where you post up and say "I've got one", and they post up "i'll take it" and then expect you to then email them. I'm lazy, you want it, you make the effort, after all you're trying to get it on the cheap more often than not!

i have ;-( now there are certain folk i wont even sell to let alone buy off 😉
tbh with me it makes a difference a bit as to what im doing work wise if i were selling today and could get payment before postie shuts then id take that as i can get it in the post today where as if i got payment tonight due to work i couldnt post til at least wednesday

dont worry tony 😉

I often just email the seller without posting on the site, it's up to them who they sell to and I'm not going to feel too aggrieved if they decide to go with somebody else.

Only if they don't bother to reply to me.

I do beleive that you should 'register' your interest on the thread first as that gives transparency. I recently expressed first interest on something only to be told it had gone due to them being emailed directly. I also emailed the seller directly but the seller had posted up 'email me as I dont check the site that often'. I did you numpty.

I posted onto your ad. and I disagree. As somebody has already said - it's not a race. Seems to me like you never even gave the first buyer a chance to buy without the pictures. Cash is king but cash isn't etiquette. A bit of patience doesn't leave bad karma. What goes around comes around.

For what it's worth; I believe it is up to the seller how they behave, and if folk believe that is fair play or not, there is nothing they can really do about it.

My personal preference when selling is to take enquiries in order, and give the possible buyers the same options and a reasonable time (that being my idea of reasonable) to respond. By enquiry, I mean emailed with questions on how to pay etc, not a post of dibbs or emailed rubbish offer, I just ignore them. I take things in order, as to me, that's just fair play.

As a buyer I would always want a pic, having been stung by a 'regular', I hold no water in this my 'word is good enough' toss. But if someone is willing to take something without the pics, then fair play sell to them.

Having read your add, my view is you were hasty as you didn't give the first chap who enquired the same oppurtunity to buy (and clearly he would have bought without pics). I don't think it makes you a ****, you sell as you see fit. But as a seller I wouldn't respond to your adds as I like to feel there is some 'fair play', and more importantly I don't spend enough time in front of the computer to race to buy, so someone would always beat me to it.

equally the number of picture collectors on here that request pictures and you never hear from them again is ridiculous. There's quite a few people whose "pics please" will just get ignored from me as they seem to want pictures of everything that's for sale!

I don't understand why sellers don't automatically post pictures. After all who's going to buy sight unseen?

I don't understand why sellers don't automatically post pictures. After all who's going to buy sight unseen

the reason i post a lot without pictures is i sell a lot on the spur of the moment...it is what i do.
i have bought loads unseen, i do actually trust people.

I also emailed the seller directly but the seller had posted up 'email me as I dont check the site that often'. I did you numpty.

presumably you were second to register interest by the sellers suggested means, Hora. Or else they chose to sell elsewhere

As far as that thread goes, I've some sympathy for the "original" buyer but I also think asking for pics is largely a waste of (everyone's) time (I don't believe you can ever judge condition from pics with any accuracy unless it's multiple pics of all surfaces etc & that still won't find functional problems)

I've bought and sold, I go on the basis that if you want the item, you falg up your interest, then follow that up immediately with an email if you are genuinely ready to buy it, if you're gonna buy it then make the effort to get in contact as quick as possible.

"dibbs", "bagsey" or "yes please" - DO NOT SECURE A PURCHASE!

you've gotta state your intentions properly, clearly and obviously.

that said if someone had asked for pictures I would send them but advise that I had already had a previous contact.

HMMMMM!

Bit of a can of worms as far as I'm concerned.

I think the first person who commits to having the item should be entitled to it BUT if you are going to say yes to buying something then you are obliged to buy it.

Should you later decide not to go ahead(and this goes for either side) then your integrity is seriously in doubt.

Been on the recieving end twice just recently once for a relatively low cost item the second for £1400 quids worth of bike when the "buyer" backed out after convincing me to remove it from sale as he was "on the way to collect it now, with the cash". Basically he was a tosser (you know who you are!)

Olie

I think most people here know you are an OK guy and from now on they will pay you quick to!!!

Personally i think DIBBS its a load o shite...
For me the first guy with the cash always gets first..I too have had the dibbs 1,2,3,4, and then you still end up with what your trying to sell.

I would like to think that im fair though !

i trust people on here and so far have never been let down.

A certain poster on here 'bought' some gear off me and then never sent the money or bothered to say they no longer wanted the items. I also replied to one of their ads hoping to buy but never even got a reply. Won't buy or sell to that person again - but my fault because i trust people on here.

I apply common sense. I hope others do the same. eg: Simply being first to shout dibbs gets you nowhere, but on the other hand I can't access paypal at work; hence if something I really want comes up while I'm at work and i want it I'll say so, and I'll ask the person if I can paypal that evening. Generally, people are OK to do that, if not then that's fine too - you can't always go into a shop, ask for dibbs on something and then piss about getting the cash either. But I always follow through on it, and paypal as soon as possible. If I didn't I'd expect to be slated for it and hopefully no-one would deal with me.

Pet hates for me are people who ask for pics / details and then it goes quiet and you never hear again. Just say 'not what i was looking for' and I know where I stand. Equally people who do a deal and then pull out. eg: will you sell for £x for cash and I'll collect? Me: yes. Them 2 days later; Actually I decided not to after all. Again, just let me know.

I don't understand why sellers don't automatically post pictures. After all who's going to buy sight unseen?

When an item is brand new unused, what exactly will a home photo tell you? A brand new rear mech is what it says.

What's with all this sly alluding to people's shady behaviour without naming names? Surely people should be told if someone's not acted honourably.

FWIW I don't think Ton did anything wrong.

What's with all this sly alluding to people's shady behaviour

There's no sly alluding - I think it's easy to work out. 🙄

it is? who is it?

mudsux, are you meaning me.
i do not think i have had any dealings with you have i???
if i have please tell me.

ton - I believe you still owe me a check for some BB7s and if you've still got some middleburns I'd be interested in those but with cranks - I've got to see pictures. 😀

you serious???
i have never bought any bb7s off here.

i have never bought any bb7s off here.

well, if you'd have sent that check you would have.

if it was me i apologise loads and loads.
but i honestly cannot remmember.
was it on the old forum.

Yes, on the old forum about 6 months ago.
And then I got no response from your middleburn ad.
And then I saw this thread which I thought ironic.
And fwiw your ad for your slx brakes it looks clear the first poster wants
the brakes - you just don't give him a chance.

Like other people have said it's upto you who you sell to but a little bit of patience wouldn't hurt otherwise it becomes a lucky dip.

[i]Re: STW: BB7s

phil
[b]i will send a cheque this week.[/b]

tony.

>> phil
>> i will take them still.
>> is paypal ok
>> if yes address please.

>> tony.
[/i]

First dibs is bollocks, what gets on my tits is people not even acknowledging the fact that they've received the gear

Also, another gripe is people, who despite the fact the you probably sold it at less than what you could get for it on ebay, then the **** sends the payment to you and makes you pay charges - yes James Garbett I'm talking about you

I bought a wheel off ton unseen the other day. It was a bargain, arrived the next day, and was literally like new. This time he might have got it a bit wrong, but I doubt it was intentional.

what gets on my tits is people not even acknowledging the fact that they've received the gear

This seems to be pretty normal - I did the first few times I bought stuff, but when I sent other ppl stuff I usually didn't get acknowledgement that they'd received it. Figured that was fairly standard so I often don't bother any more either.

First to offer payment that day and emails gets the goods from me.

>then the **** sends the payment to you and makes you pay charges.

If i was accepting a paypal payment, i wouldn't expect the payer to send it as a gift waiving any possibility of a dispute. Is that what you mean Lanesra?

I would usually email a seller to tell them i had got the item.

You don't seem to have done anything wrong ton.
Dibbs is no use to anybody apart from the tyre kickers. I want to see pics of stuff if buying from peeps I've not dealt with before - I've had my fingers burned a few times, so excuse my cynicism! Unfortunately for sellers there seem to be more timewasters on here these days 🙁
One seller did get my goat after I had said I would take an item, he then turned round and sold it to a mate instead.... but I try not to be too sensitive!
I'm searching for a frame at the mo, been in touch with a few people asking for pics and info etc, but I've made it clear I have to be sure on sizing and may want to try one for fit before going firm. I'm sensible enough to know if somebody pitches up with payment then I've lost out, and I hope I'm not leading sellers on.
Can't understand people that can't be bothered answering posts/email - would have bought a frame off here this week, but the seller wasn't interested in giving any info about condition, use, etc - although there were pics.
But 90% of the time it's a pleasure doing business with you all 🙂 Group hug.....

i wouldn't expect the payer to send it as a gift waiving any possibility of a dispute. Is that what you mean Lanesra?

Don't think you can raise disputes for paypal transactions outside ebay can you?

give the first person to respond first refusal, but if they are taking too much time and there are others waiting with cash then warn them that they are likely to lose the purchase if they take too long
not checking your emails very often is a good way to lose out on a purchase

First to pay IMO

I think it depends on the seller.

If someone says they will take them and emails the seller and arranges how to pay etc.

If goes wrong or change of mind then whoever is second place could buy the product or just advertise again-it's free after all?

Funny how all the people lost out moaning on here.

If you agree to to 2 sellers and they both pay pal then you have to sort all that out.

Be a gentleman seller and buyer. It's good Karma.

We all miss out on bargains but so what?

Paypal T&Cs are a load of bollocks for outside (of ebay) purchases - Basically they will only attempt to get your money back if there's something in the sellers account, if there's nothing there you're ****ed.

My point earlier was buyers sending the amount required to buy something then expecting you to take hit for paypal's charges. For e.g someone (off here) was supposed to send me £105 for something, which he did but charged it to me so I received £101.37. I know its only £3.63 but its the principle of the matter.

As someone else said its all karma, eventually

It seems crystal clear to me.The first "I'll take it,how can I pay" gets it.
Anything else can lead to confusion and bad feeling.

Sell to who you want, it's your stuff.

Did you do right in the way you sold those brakes? IMO no, not really.

If in turn you get dicked around on the classifieds in the future I'd say tough luck and don't moan.

Should have edited it earlier James Garbett is the culprit (and is also a buyer on here for selling on ebay)

I agreed to buy some tyres of the classifieds, sent cheque as agreed, only to get an email saying some crap about he got mixed up with who he was selling to? what a load of s*%t, won't say who it was, just won't deal with them again!

If i want something for sale on here. I post in the thread AND e-mail the seller.
Once contact made with seller, deal is made and money is sent.
Seller sends goods, i receive goods and e-mail seller once goods received. Not dificult really.
It does annoy me when people put things up for sale, dont update their thread with whats been sold, so you think item is still available. So you say yes you'll have the item only to be told its gone.
If you have items up for sale elsewhere it would be polite if you said so!