but surely we can at least agree that on the road, there tends to be less hazards
No, you are incorrect (and not only in your use of less rather than fewer)
It might come as a surprise to you, but for the vast majority of the population more danger does not equal more fun.
I can't see that anyone suggested that it did. And this is exactly why I ride my mountain bike rather than doing the club ride if the weather is poor - it's much safer.
Lovely prose but a lot of words that only amount to a sophism, at best.
Mountain biking GOOD!!! Road biking BAD!!!! Bah, blah, blah... You want to try high altitude mountaineering. It's the only way to have fun. Unless you're scared of being wiped out by a mahoosive avalanche or a yati, blah, blah, blah... etc. Stop with the tedious trolling eh 🙂
All the most serious cycling injuries I’ve seen have been on the road. It’s much more dangerous than MTB riding.
IMO you're far more likely to crash mtbing, but the rarer road crashed tend to be more serious.
Indeed, I've heard of far more people killed road riding.
YOu would really have to work it out "per mile" to give a true idea but my guess would be more road riding. also how many of the "road deaths" are utility riding rather than leisure riding
If someone doesn’t want to develop the skills to access the fun that can only exists off road,
Maybe you should develop the skills needed to access the fun that only exists on road? Like a bit of fitness and the ability to follow a wheel. And ride cleanly/well enough that someone else would be happy following your wheel. Then you can work up to the hard stuff.
XC racers are no different to road cyclists, nor cyclocross.
Weird, physically i used to weigh about 5-6 kilos more when I did an MTB focused season than a road focused season. Also, none of my work shirts fitted round my neck and the 6 pack would appear about May/June.
It's funny, reading the last page I'd say lots of you seem to see the "objective measure" of fun as either being on the limits of ability/control (off-road) or being on the limits of aerobic/anerobic capacity (on-road). You all appear to know both types of fun can be found in alternative flavours of bicycle riding, but are a bit too entrenched to fully admit it...
I propose that there is now only one true form of cycling 'fun', where both the desires to tumble gracelessly off the side of a trail and the need to cough up a lung from ridiculous exertions can be satisfied, and that is the bastard child of MTB/Road/CX that is Gravel.
Riding the wrong bike all the time is the only right way to have both type 1 and type 2 "Fun" 😉 everything else is just out of balance it seems...
You need to have jumps to have fun?
No one said that, have they?
No, you are incorrect (and not only in your use of less rather than fewer)
I guess you might be right what with cars/traffic, which are sadly often outside of the riders' control, even with the best defensive riding, which in itself limits fun.
As for the poor English, apologies and thx for pointing it out, it's still a second language for me, at best 😂
Anyone that did a Saturday morning Nirvana cycles Mtb ride over the last 20 years fully understands the concept of getting dropped if you couldn’t keep up in a mountain bike ride. They earned quite a legendary status for a while. And yes they were a lot of fun.
I did a road group ride on Saturday am. Got dropped as I was the only person who waited for another rider. This was at the furthest point out on the ride and the guy I waited for did not know the way home and would have really struggled into the head wind back. As it was he sat on my wheel for 35km. Bit pissed off none of the others showed any sense tbh. It's not the group I usually ride with as I am coming back from a big crash. Bunch of numpties if you ask me, obviously the faster ones lack the testicular fortitude to ride in a faster group.
Bunch of numpties if you ask me, obviously the faster ones lack the testicular fortitude to ride in a faster group.
Sounds like my local club, best avoided
