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Completely unnecessary with the only one advantage being the buckled wheel scenario.
Bleeding brakes?!
How dare the industry force this crap on me!
Wrong or poor troll.
SHame on you in either case.
NEXT!
Ooooh controversial! ๐
Massively agree with op.
Utter rubbish
Just imagine changing your rims every year through brake wear
Its like riding in the early 90s
Yeah OP, fight the system!
If the OP is right it's a damning indictment for XC. If the OP is wrong it's a win for XC. Either way, tis but a poor troll.
boltonjon - MemberUtter rubbish
Just imagine changing your rims every year through brake wear
Its like riding in the early 90s
I've got a 1990 Courier Comp on its original rims.
Methinks you're the one who hangs out with Oscar the Grouch i.e. talks trash
I had a bike where the rims collapsed from wear to say nothing of the fat its nice to have brakes that work consistently. But then I ride bikes all year round and most days
disc may not be essential - I rode without them for decades but they sure as heck make life better.
I wouldn't get a bike without now
Wouldn't this have worked better as a troll about 10 years ago?
If the OP is right it's a damning indictment for XC. If the OP is wrong it's a win for XC. Either way, it's all XC
get a pair of decent cable discs - DONE
6079smithw, you are so made up.
Massively agree with op.
as the saying goes; great trolls think alike.
I like what you did there nedrapier. I think.
and that suspension will never catch on.
Wouldn't this have worked better as a troll about 10 years ago?
Hang on a second whilst I answer the phone...
"What's that you say...? You're 2002, and your want your internet troll back?" ๐
Anyway, one man's XC, is another man's extreme freeride, is another man's bimble round the local park. And whilst you don't [i]need[/i] discs to be able to ride a bike offroad, on my "xc" rides I usually find enough interesting trails that point downwards that make me glad of having good quality disc brakes fitted to my bikes.
And is it just me that thinks the occasional bleed (like once every couple of years) of a disc brake system is far less hassle than constant adjustment of cables and pad angles as the pads wear on a V brake system? Not forgetting the wheels needing to be 100% in shape at all times to avoid rubbing on the pads.
Bike. Completely unnecessary for XC. the only advantage over walking is that it's quicker.
Still on the original rims from 1990? That's nothing, I'm still on my original pads from 1990.
I've still got my original feet from 1970. My teeth and nuts are newer though.
disc may not be essential - I rode without them for decades but they sure as heck make life better.
I wouldn't get a bike without now
This.
you lot bite so easily
And I'd hoped to get in here before the luddite of post#4.
to be fair ive had this 'argument' with a roadie in a pub, was about 4 years ago, and im still annoyed that he refused to accept he was talking bollox
-Carrying a load of toxic fluid in your bike. Nice
-Turn your bike upside down to change a puncture. Then no braking available at the next corner. Genius.
-If I want to buy an Orange/Cotic/whatever else STW stereotype hardtail frame then it won't have V/canti mounts. But more likely it will have options or arrangements to run it without gears like a true luddite (or child's bike).
Absolutley effin crazy.
>Mineral Oil
>Toxic Fluid
>Unbled Brakes
Try harder please.
You turn your bike upside down to fix a puncture?
-Turn your bike upside down to change a puncture. Then no braking available at the next corner. Genius.
Seriously? has this ever happened, really.
Urban myth.
Light your house with candles do you? It's called progress, deal with it.
I agree, loads of crap forced upon us by the [i]Man[/i] ..what about tyres?? Load of oblocks IMO, Nowt wrong with wooden rims, and bearings!!! Who really needs em eh? Bit of lard an bobs your uncle..Fanny's your aunt..and dicks your mums best friend! ๐
Innovation my arse!!!.....
Ah yes, but there's the choice to do so, even if I bought a new house.tomhoward - MemberLight your house with candles do you? It's called progress, deal with it.
And what part of singlespeed is progress again?
Bored now, night all!
Having put together my old Chameleon as an SS winter bike I have to admit that for tight singletrack once its got fresh pads on it discs don't offer much advantage.
One man's XC...
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Another man's XC...
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Would be happy using V brakes for one, but not the other...
I'm happy to have my rims last for 5 years, rather than 2 thanks. Wet weather v braking with mud on the rims? No thank you.
If you ran tubeless you wouldn't be stopping to fix punctures. Anyway, I often turn my bike upside to clean/lube the drivetrain and it never affects the brakes.
I started [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-biggest-advance-in-mtbing-in-the-last-decade-discuss ]this[/url] thread a while ago on here, to prompt people to discuss what they thought the single biggest technological advance with Mountain Bikes in the last 10 years... Lots of people of course said disc brakes, but I discounted disc brakes purely cos discs have been widely available for mountain bikes (for good reason) for 15 years or more, so are outside of the time frame I specified!
Rose tinted specs are nice, and my XTR V Brake setup with Mavic ceramic rims and ceramic pads, with fully sealed goretex cables, was all well and good back in the day as it was about as good as V brakes got. And they worked pretty well in the dry, at low to medium speeds. At high speeds, or in the wet though, and they were of course very poor compared to any reasonable disc setup.
6079smithw - Member
-Turn your bike upside down to change a puncture. Then no braking available at the next corner. Genius.
I am prepared to concede that disk brakes, when set up badly by a cretin, and also ridden by a cretin, are worse than V brakes.
perhaps they are just riding off because your bike looks gash ๐
I am prepared to concede that disk brakes, when set up badly by a cretin, and also ridden by a cretin, are worse than V brakes.
lol
Whether other riders are better than me or not doesn't change the fact disc brakes are OTT. What a bizarre argument.
Although this was back in 2003, at a wet Gorrick race some racers were saying they'd got through whole disc brake pads in one lap. I had no such problems.
Junkyard - Memberperhaps they are just riding off because your bike looks gash
That bike is better looking than Tulisa ๐
Whether other riders are better than me or not doesn't change the fact disc brakes are OTT. What a bizarre argument.
Now I know you're a troll!
Congratulations on the single stupidest thing anyone has said yet today... The day is only an hour old, but that one will take some topping!
Just because YOU don't feel the need for them, does not mean that others don't.
poor trolling effort, I'd go with something like 'MTB for XC - daft' next time as you can antagonise a wider pool of riders and may attract sympathetic trolling support from those who consider themselves at the more gnar end of the spectrum.

