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[Closed] Disc brakes for XC = daft

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Completely unnecessary with the only one advantage being the buckled wheel scenario.
Bleeding brakes?!

How dare the industry force this crap on me!


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:32 pm
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Wrong or poor troll.

SHame on you in either case.

NEXT!


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:33 pm
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Ooooh controversial! ๐Ÿ˜


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:35 pm
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Massively agree with op.


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:37 pm
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Utter rubbish

Just imagine changing your rims every year through brake wear

Its like riding in the early 90s


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:44 pm
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Yeah OP, fight the system!


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:45 pm
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If the OP is right it's a damning indictment for XC. If the OP is wrong it's a win for XC. Either way, tis but a poor troll.


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:46 pm
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Utter rubbish

Just imagine changing your rims every year through brake wear

Its like riding in the early 90s


I've got a 1990 Courier Comp on its original rims.
Methinks you're the one who hangs out with Oscar the Grouch i.e. talks trash


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:47 pm
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I had a bike where the rims collapsed from wear to say nothing of the fat its nice to have brakes that work consistently. But then I ride bikes all year round and most days

disc may not be essential - I rode without them for decades but they sure as heck make life better.

I wouldn't get a bike without now


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:57 pm
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Wouldn't this have worked better as a troll about 10 years ago?


 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:59 pm
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If the OP is right it's a damning indictment for XC. If the OP is wrong it's a win for XC. Either way, it's all XC


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 12:00 am
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get a pair of decent cable discs - DONE


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 12:00 am
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6079smithw, you are so made up.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 12:02 am
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Massively agree with op.

as the saying goes; great trolls think alike.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 12:03 am
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I like what you did there nedrapier. I think.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 12:04 am
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and that suspension will never catch on.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 12:44 am
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Wouldn't this have worked better as a troll about 10 years ago?

Hang on a second whilst I answer the phone...

"What's that you say...? You're 2002, and your want your internet troll back?" ๐Ÿ˜‰

Anyway, one man's XC, is another man's extreme freeride, is another man's bimble round the local park. And whilst you don't [i]need[/i] discs to be able to ride a bike offroad, on my "xc" rides I usually find enough interesting trails that point downwards that make me glad of having good quality disc brakes fitted to my bikes.

And is it just me that thinks the occasional bleed (like once every couple of years) of a disc brake system is far less hassle than constant adjustment of cables and pad angles as the pads wear on a V brake system? Not forgetting the wheels needing to be 100% in shape at all times to avoid rubbing on the pads.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 12:57 am
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Bike. Completely unnecessary for XC. the only advantage over walking is that it's quicker.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 7:32 am
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Still on the original rims from 1990? That's nothing, I'm still on my original pads from 1990.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 7:37 am
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I've still got my original feet from 1970. My teeth and nuts are newer though.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 7:42 am
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disc may not be essential - I rode without them for decades but they sure as heck make life better.
I wouldn't get a bike without now

This.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 8:31 am
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you lot bite so easily


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 8:41 am
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And I'd hoped to get in here before the luddite of post#4.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:01 am
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to be fair ive had this 'argument' with a roadie in a pub, was about 4 years ago, and im still annoyed that he refused to accept he was talking bollox


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:03 am
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-Carrying a load of toxic fluid in your bike. Nice
-Turn your bike upside down to change a puncture. Then no braking available at the next corner. Genius.
-If I want to buy an Orange/Cotic/whatever else STW stereotype hardtail frame then it won't have V/canti mounts. But more likely it will have options or arrangements to run it without gears like a true luddite (or child's bike).
Absolutley effin crazy.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:08 pm
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>Mineral Oil

>Toxic Fluid

>Unbled Brakes

Try harder please.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:13 pm
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You turn your bike upside down to fix a puncture?


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:16 pm
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-Turn your bike upside down to change a puncture. Then no braking available at the next corner. Genius.

Seriously? has this ever happened, really.
Urban myth.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:16 pm
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Light your house with candles do you? It's called progress, deal with it.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:18 pm
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I agree, loads of crap forced upon us by the [i]Man[/i] ..what about tyres?? Load of oblocks IMO, Nowt wrong with wooden rims, and bearings!!! Who really needs em eh? Bit of lard an bobs your uncle..Fanny's your aunt..and dicks your mums best friend! ๐Ÿ˜€
Innovation my arse!!!.....


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:20 pm
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Light your house with candles do you? It's called progress, deal with it.

Ah yes, but there's the choice to do so, even if I bought a new house.

And what part of singlespeed is progress again?


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:22 pm
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Bored now, night all!


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:24 pm
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Having put together my old Chameleon as an SS winter bike I have to admit that for tight singletrack once its got fresh pads on it discs don't offer much advantage.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:29 pm
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One man's XC...
[img] http://www.grannybuttons.com/.a/6a00d83451b11469e2013486574fb4970c-pi [/img]

Another man's XC...
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Would be happy using V brakes for one, but not the other...


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:40 pm
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I'm happy to have my rims last for 5 years, rather than 2 thanks. Wet weather v braking with mud on the rims? No thank you.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:45 pm
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If you ran tubeless you wouldn't be stopping to fix punctures. Anyway, I often turn my bike upside to clean/lube the drivetrain and it never affects the brakes.


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 10:49 pm
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Another mans XC - and the only place V Braked bikes should be is left in the garage
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Posted : 23/05/2012 10:50 pm
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If the OP can keep up downhill with some of the XCers I ride with on a bike like this:

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then I'd be very impressed. If not then maybe the possibility that other riders are quicker and benefit from technological progress should be considered...


 
Posted : 23/05/2012 11:51 pm
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I started [url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-biggest-advance-in-mtbing-in-the-last-decade-discuss ]this[/url] thread a while ago on here, to prompt people to discuss what they thought the single biggest technological advance with Mountain Bikes in the last 10 years... Lots of people of course said disc brakes, but I discounted disc brakes purely cos discs have been widely available for mountain bikes (for good reason) for 15 years or more, so are outside of the time frame I specified!

Rose tinted specs are nice, and my XTR V Brake setup with Mavic ceramic rims and ceramic pads, with fully sealed goretex cables, was all well and good back in the day as it was about as good as V brakes got. And they worked pretty well in the dry, at low to medium speeds. At high speeds, or in the wet though, and they were of course very poor compared to any reasonable disc setup.


 
Posted : 24/05/2012 12:02 am
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-Turn your bike upside down to change a puncture. Then no braking available at the next corner. Genius.

I am prepared to concede that disk brakes, when set up badly by a cretin, and also ridden by a cretin, are worse than V brakes.


 
Posted : 24/05/2012 12:17 am
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perhaps they are just riding off because your bike looks gash ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 24/05/2012 12:18 am
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I am prepared to concede that disk brakes, when set up badly by a cretin, and also ridden by a cretin, are worse than V brakes.

lol


 
Posted : 24/05/2012 12:25 am
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Whether other riders are better than me or not doesn't change the fact disc brakes are OTT. What a bizarre argument.

Although this was back in 2003, at a wet Gorrick race some racers were saying they'd got through whole disc brake pads in one lap. I had no such problems.

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perhaps they are just riding off because your bike looks gash


That bike is better looking than Tulisa ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 24/05/2012 1:01 am
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Whether other riders are better than me or not doesn't change the fact disc brakes are OTT. What a bizarre argument.

Now I know you're a troll!

Congratulations on the single stupidest thing anyone has said yet today... The day is only an hour old, but that one will take some topping!

Just because YOU don't feel the need for them, does not mean that others don't.


 
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poor trolling effort, I'd go with something like 'MTB for XC - daft' next time as you can antagonise a wider pool of riders and may attract sympathetic trolling support from those who consider themselves at the more gnar end of the spectrum.


 
Posted : 24/05/2012 7:15 am
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