I'm debating on two droppers at moment! I can choose one from the manufacturer or I can buy my own!
The one from the manufacturer (Bird) would be bikeyoke REVIVE in 185 the 213 size might not fit it might but it's going to be close very close maybe perfect but not sure.
I'd ideally like the seat post to be slammed.
I could get the bike with no seatpost and I can buy a oneup v2.1 210 and because it's got such short stack height I think it would be perfect fit plus I can lower it by 10 or 20 mm if I need.
Both have fantastic reviews. Bikeyoke it's the better post but it's a bit more expensive (£50).
Should I go for a bit better post but not totally slammed or go for the little bit cheaper post and slammed? It's more convenient getting the bikeyoke as it comes with the bike.
I'm not crazy tall 6'2 and got fairly short legs. It's just the bike has nice short top tube.
Any thoughts?
Cheers
Which Bird frame are you on?
I've got a One-Up v.2 with 210mm drop on an AM9 and am a similar height to you and its low in the frame but not slammed.
I just got a brand x from CRC and it came with some free pubic hair.....something for you to consider 👍
Getting large Aether9 Al same seat length as large Am9.
The oneup210 will fit. Not sure about the bikeyoke 213 but the 185 will.
I'm on an XL AM9 frame and the 210 dropper fits fine for me, but I guess it all depends on the length of your legs.
Bird should be able to calculate if the 213 will fit, just measure saddle rails to centre of BB on your current bike, and ask Bird to check.
I have two 185 BileYokes and a OneUp 210 - I'd go BikeYoke every time, there's nothing wrong with the OneUp but the BikeYoke is just so smooth....
I’ve got 2 Oneup posts and I believe they have the lowest stack height of any post. That said I’m sure they’ve compromised the top seal to achieve this - brand x posts I’ve had have never needed any maintenance - but the Oneup needs periodically opening up to be cleaned. You can just do a mini clean by unscrewing the top cap and sliding up the small white plastic bush thing and cleaning / greasing it which helps for a while. But mine was needing it every few rides in the slop so I bought the rebuild kit and have done all of it. Will see how it goes.
I’d ask Bird to see if they could check how low the revive will go in the frame and check the pedal - saddle rail height of that vs your current bike. I’d get the revive if you can fit one in with enough drop.
Thanks again mate. I suspect that you are right regarding oneup.
I think the bikeyoke 213 will either be perfect fit or a bit too long. I've measured and think it would fit but it'll be close.
The 185 would fit for sure.
It's a tough call. Do I take the risk? 🙂
I've emailed bird regarding the 213 and 185. I'm 72 from BB to rails.
Tricky one - Bird frames have quite good insertion depths for long droppers. I’m 5’9 with a medium Aether 7 and I’ve got a 210 Oneup dropper in it. I had to space it down 10mm to 200mm drop for the right saddle height for me. That length of post wouldn’t slam right into the frame - I thought it was going to go in further than it does but either the actuator hits something or there’s a slight kink in the seat tube that stops it dropping further.
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Exactly. Not sure ideally I'd get a 213 and if it didn't fit they'd swop it for me.
"I think the bikeyoke 213 will either be perfect fit or a bit too long. I’ve measured and think it would fit but it’ll be close."
You can rotate the actuator on the BikeYokes to avoid whatever gets in the way, so it may fit easier than you think. The Bird guys will know!
The issue isn't getting the seatpost slammed. The issue about having too much post rise.
Tough call, ideally I'd want the longer drop.
I'd be getting precise with the measurements because I'd want the longer drop but my experience with Bikeyoke is such that I'd be keen for another.
I don't know Oneup but one major positive I have found with the Bikeyoke is just how user serviceable it is. Not so much for the revive function as for the ease with which you can strip, clean, lube and rebuild the outer elements.
Bikeyoke is pretty low stack too, so chances might be good on that front. I chose my Bikeyoke 160 for exactly this reason where some 150 posts I was looking at at the time wouldn't fit.
I have both of those, they're both excellent, top-of-the-pile products. The Bikeyoke's the higher quality product imo, I have 2 of those and they literally are untouched, just an occasional clean and an occasional reset. The Oneup's needed air and a basic service/lube (which they have a good video for on their website, it's very easy- interestingly there was no sign of any dirt or water inside at all even after 2 horrible scottish winters on a fatbike, but even despite that it had gone a bit tight). In use the Revive's a little nicer- smoother, less play even though they're both older and have had more use, but the Oneup's fine too. The Revive lever is maybe better, but it's also pretty delicate feeling. Bikeyoke's customer service is superb- they literally posted me some parts from a trade show they were at, same day dispatch is always good but when you're not even in the warehouse it's phenomenal. Never used Oneup's.
(incidentally, it wasn't a fault with the Bikeyokes- I got one nicked but they left behind the lever etc, I bought a replacement but didn't buy all the parts I needed- totally my mistake which makes it double good that they dropped everything to help)
I'm completely happy with both but I'd definitely be pushing for the absolute most drop I could get. Remember you can sometimes find a little more height with a different saddle. And importantly the Oneup can be dropped by 10mm or 20mm if it's ever so slightly too long and would still give you more drop. (I haven't done this, don't know how it's done but it says you can on the website)
I've been very underwhelmed with my Oneup V2 180 dropper. Its never been super smooth (too much friction??) and I seem to need to weight it a lot to drop it. Changing pressure doesnt fix it. Despite this, it has been reliable although the removeable plastic bush thingy started getting damaged by the brass keys when I dropped the travel to 170. Back up to 180mm and no issues. Way less smooth than my Brand X, but the OneUp has next to zero play after 12 months. WHereas my 2 Brand X droppers have both developed play very quickly.
I absolutely LOVE my BikeYoke 160. Smoothest dropper I've ever used. Am already looking at replacing my OneUp with another BikeYoke @ 185mm length.
If you get a BikeYoke Devine instead of a Revive, the amount of rise can be adjusted internally.