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I've ordered roadie disc bike to replace my old klunker (which is taking it's merry time to get here so boredom is ruling so WebWindowShopping has taken hold!! The wheels that come on it are (looking at the specs) a bit poo (heavy) so STW tell me what I need to buy to replace them!

I mainly ride in the south, so no huge hills, requirements are:

centrelock disc hubs (so i can use the shimano Freeza discs)
>15mm width rims (to accomdate the 28c tyres)
<1600g for the wheelset (thus dropping 350g from the spinning gumph)

lastly Tubeless friendly, but not a dealbreaker.

what do you lot think?


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 4:00 pm
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Price?

Ultegra Centerlock hubs on LB carbon rims in your choice of depth? Or Open Pros. Or H Plus Archetypes. Or Pacentis etc.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 4:02 pm
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price?

over £500 and under £1500

i've been looking for months and have now gotten in to a state of confusion! i need someone to tell me what to spend money on!

looked at DT swiss splines - 15mm rims (so 28c tyres will, allegedly, wallow about on them)
shimano CX/28h Aileron combo - comes out about 1800g, so not that light

i guess i'd like some 40mm(ish) section carbon rims but they seem to be all quite heavy (and i'm not buying Zipps)


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 4:08 pm
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[url= http://www.light-bicycle.com/wider-700c-38mm-clincher-carbon-rims-for-cyclocross-bikes-road-bike.html#.VQhSltKsVBk ]400g[/url], weirdly LB seem to have dropped most of their road carbon rims.

Build onto DT240 Centerlock hubs for a nice wheelset for £700 or so.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 4:15 pm
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hmmmm

LB rims - how long have they been taking to get delivered over here? and do you get clobbered for import duty?

the hunt wheels - no delivery until mid June and I'm not *that* patient!!


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 4:23 pm
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Serious question. Will dropping 350g make a difference that you can notice/feel?


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 4:53 pm
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It'll make the bike feel different, whether that translates to a real world performance advantage is something else altogether.

LB rims are usually 4-6 weeks until delivery, and yes, you usually have to pay the due taxes.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 4:55 pm
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I mainly ride in the south, so no huge hills

centrelock disc hubs (so i can use the shimano Freeza discs)

Have you already got the freeza discs?


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 5:01 pm
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njee - that's a long wait. not sure i'm patient enough!!

nemesis - yeah, freeza discs come fitted.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 5:03 pm
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Surely you can use the wheels that come with the bike until something better becomes available. Those hunt wheels look good and good value too. Some of the bontrager road wheels should fit the bill also .


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 5:10 pm
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Can't realy help but i love my shimano / aileron wheels


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 5:30 pm
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Another vote for LB but would go with something like these if going alloy.

[url= http://www.justridingalong.com/wheels/semi-custom-builders/240-centre-lock-hubs-laced-to-pacenti-sl25-rims-semi-custom-builder.html ]http://www.justridingalong.com/wheels/semi-custom-builders/240-centre-lock-hubs-laced-to-pacenti-sl25-rims-semi-custom-builder.html[/url]


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 5:49 pm
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SLX RT66 160's both ends on my cx works for me. 105 levers and shimano 516 calipers with Conti GP 28's on 29er rims and mtb hubs. Sets up nicely once you get your head round gapping the pads. Stops well and doesn't need frequent adjusting. I don't have inline adjusters and don't feel the need.

I'm looking forward to the roadie take up of disc braking opening up options, although with a 135 back end 29er kit may always be my best option


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 8:25 pm
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My 'offroad' wheelset is one of the £90 set of 29er Flows on Shimano 525's Merlin had. 35's at on the Flows nicely.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 8:28 pm
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+1 for alloy I'd go Pacenti SL25 but my next set of road disc wheels will be LB carbons (on Tune hubs, but I run 6-bolt not centrelock)


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 9:43 pm
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Has to be carbon rims. The lighter the better. That is the only reason for road disks. Ultegra hubs, Sapim CX-ray spokes and 35mm all round rims. Nick is right on the money with his suggestion.

Forget alloy those are for caliper brakes.


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 10:04 pm
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Buy these please..

http://www.bdopcycling.com/DTO-40%20DISC-SPECIFIC%20CARBON%20RIMS.asp

..and report back when you're done


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 10:24 pm
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As much as I like the idea of LB or BDOP RIMS I've gotta say I'm nervous of buying parts from abroad knowing nothing about wheel building or any local wheel builders!

Maybe I need to get up on wheel building...


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 10:30 pm
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Towards the top end of your budget (but fitting all your criteria nicely) are the Reynolds Attack Disc and Reynolds Assault Disc wheelsets.

Attacks are sub 1400g for the pair, Assaults a smidge over 1500g, both are bang on trend width wise, tubeless ready, Centrelock or 6 bolt versions, can be converted to bolt through or QR front and rear. The only thing not to like about them is the price, but then compared to Zipp's, they could be seen as good value!

Currently lusting hard over a pair of Assaults for my road bike myself!


 
Posted : 17/03/2015 10:55 pm
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have you looked at http://www.justridingalong.com/wheels/custom-builds.html

would have though experts on tubeless

- not sure if calculates weights though that data can be picked up from the individual supplier websites

(no relation)


 
Posted : 18/03/2015 8:47 am
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Ok then, looking at the JRA site there's the option for 2x or 3x build. what's the benefit?

I gather that 3x will require slightly longer spokes, so marginally heavier, but will they be X% stronger?


 
Posted : 18/03/2015 9:08 am
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The choice between 2x and 3x is really down to the number of spokes in the wheel. You need the spokes not to run at too much of an angle over the hub flange.

My rule of thumb is >28 hole 3-cross. 28 or less 2-cross.

I'm sure there is a bit of an increase in lateral wheel stiffness with 3-cross as well but you wouldn't want 3-cross pattern on a 24 spoke wheel, for instance.


 
Posted : 18/03/2015 10:00 am
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Has to be carbon rims. The lighter the better. That is the only reason for road disks.

Out of interested, why's that?


 
Posted : 18/03/2015 10:23 am
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Anyone used industry nine wheelsets?

Specifically, the torch ALU disc wheelset?


 
Posted : 18/03/2015 9:20 pm
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oh-er.

just looked at the specs of the assault.

think i may be sold...


 
Posted : 19/03/2015 11:59 am
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oh-er.

just looked at the specs of the assault.

think i may be sold...

Nice aren't they

I caved in last night, and ordered a set of Assault's for my road bike (but then it helps being in the trade and having a Reynolds dealership!)

Got about a 4 week wait apparently for the new 2015 Assault Disc's to come into stock (the 2014 model are 6 bolt and not tubeless ready), so probably worth getting a set put on back order.

You going to be running tubeless too? If so which tyres?


 
Posted : 19/03/2015 12:09 pm
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tubeless, yes but not sure on tyres. next thing to investigate.

looking at the reynolds dealer map the shops that sell em have pretty crap websites, so may be a bit of trauma getting some ordered.

who is it you work for?


 
Posted : 19/03/2015 1:09 pm
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Crap website too I'm afraid (being sorted as we speak)...

[url]www.missinglinkbikes.co.uk[/url]

email is info AT missinglinkbikes DOT co DOT uk if I can help at all.

Tyre wise, can't recommend Schwalbe One's highly enough. Done about 1500 miles on a set last summer, minimal signs of wear, so much grip and so quick. That was the 25c version, they also do 23's and 28's.


 
Posted : 19/03/2015 1:45 pm
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tremendous,cheers mboy!


 
Posted : 19/03/2015 5:32 pm
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No worries

My Assaults arrived today... 😛

Can't wait to try them out!


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 6:51 pm
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Pics, man, pics!!!


 
Posted : 20/03/2015 11:11 pm
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Sorry, been so busy, only just fitted them and set them up!

[img] ?oh=4a63e02d4c087db7c16deb061f47dfb0&oe=557A0F50&__gda__=1438356441_be8c39703e100450a27d71f58718aa5a[/img]

Obviously these are the rim brake version, the disc version is 24 spoke F/R with a disc specific rim.


 
Posted : 26/03/2015 3:00 pm
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Just a note to add...

Bike has arrived, wheels have arrived. Both are EPIC!!!

Mandatory picture of bike in rural setting...

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Posted : 10/05/2015 9:59 pm
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blimey, that looks fast - especially with those 100mm rotors 😯 (I assume/hope that's an optical illusion)


 
Posted : 10/05/2015 10:11 pm
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140mm front and rear and they're scary good.

and 40mm section wheels are weird. Above 25 mph they seem to gain speed of their own accord!!


 
Posted : 10/05/2015 10:19 pm
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Hang on a minute - isn't that pic at the Mockbeggar ford ?

Gerrooofff moi loop !


 
Posted : 10/05/2015 10:25 pm
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By moyles court school? Yeah.

INVASION!!

😆


 
Posted : 11/05/2015 5:48 am
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Nice bike Scaredy. I have a non disc 2014 Synapse hi mod that I really like.

You know you're not supposed to put spacers above the stem if you're using the 'Dale steerer bung thing though? The bung is supposed to be under the stem clamps to give the steerer more internal support.


 
Posted : 11/05/2015 6:32 am
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Cranks are not level, to to the back of the class!


 
Posted : 11/05/2015 12:27 pm
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🙁


 
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