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I'm sorry dude if it's someone on here, but 70 prosecutions?' you came across like a sanctimonious prick.
What a world it has come to that snitches are hailed as heroes.
[i]What a world it has come to that snitches are hailed as heroes[/i]
good troll ๐
Did he wear a cape?
2/10.
Derek is Jeremy Clarkson.
70 DANGEROUS ILLEGAL DRIVERS ARE NOW HAVEING A FINE AND POINTS, MAKE THEM THINK NEXT TIME
70 DANGEROUS ILLEGAL DRIVERS ARE NOW HAVEING A FINE AND POINTS, MAKE THEM THINK NEXT TIME
Calm down dear.
Thanks dereknightrider. Now I know how successful that guy is I'll be making sure I have a camera on my bike at all times.
Vigilante = Someone who takes the law into their own hands.
70 prosecutions
I guess you meant that a public spirited individual reported offences to the authorities, which clearly isn't the same thing.
The Jeremy Vine farcebook page is a delight to behold on this interview, the usual reasonable debate from the daily mail reading mentalists
A world that isn't stuck in the 70's? See also other thread re 'no place for women'.What a world it has come to that snitches are hailed as heroes.
If 70 people have been fairly prosecuted for breaking the law I fail to see what he is doing wrong.
Ha why am I not surprised at the response.. Well whatever, it's the way things are these days, interesting the only guy who despaired on the radio was a 70 yr old yorkshire guy who made the valid point if this is the way it has to be and everyone starts doing it can you all guarantee every journey you take is mistake free?
Whilst I fully sympathise and indeed have been victim to car driving ****s, 70 prosecutions? I'm sorry that smacks of sensationalism and would be super hero nerdism, then he proclaims it to the world, name and everything, don't think I'd be quite so proud of that achievement, certainly not with attitudes like my own personal view of grasses.
I wish him everything he deserves.
dereknightrider - Member70 prosecutions? I'm sorry that smacks of sensationalism
It seems unlikely, but sensationalism? Not sure what you mean by that. You do know it's not the individual who decides whether to prosecute?
[i]my own personal view of grasses[/i]
read the reports into child abuse in Oxford today?
Good job those social workers, police officers and teachers gave those kids reporting their abusers short shrift, eh? No one likes a grass, after all.
[i]don't think I'd be quite so proud of that achievement, certainly not with attitudes like my own personal view of grasses.
I wish him everything he deserves.[/i]
You're an idiot.
HTH
You'll all be happy no doubt when the result of actions by idiots like this has you all sporting number plates so they can get you back, it's only fair after all..
so we should tolerate law breaking by others now in case 'bad things' happen to us in the future?
You'll all be happy no doubt when the result of actions by idiots like this has you all sporting number plates so they can get you back, it's only fair after all..
You're an idiot.
HTH
So, using your logic on grasses, if a he had filmed that poor lad being stabbed in London and passed on the info to the police which resulted in the offender being done for murder would your thoughts be any different?
[quote=dereknightrider ]You'll all be happy no doubt when the result of actions by idiots like this has you all sporting number plates so they can get you back, it's only fair after all..
Just for the sake of argument I'll ignore most of your posts and assume you're a rational person capable of making an argument - why do you think prosecuting drivers breaking the law will result in cyclists having to use number plates?
I wish him everything he deserves.
You're sending him your thanks? Well make your mind up.
I'm sorry mate, but you listen to Jeremy Vine? I wish you everything you deserve... ๐
my own personal view of grasses.
And don't get me started on the police, they are just professional grasses with too much power, picking on those poor criminals.
dereknightrider - MemberYou'll all be happy no doubt when the result of actions by idiots like this has you all sporting number plates so they can get you back, it's only fair after all..
Random nonsequitor is random and unsequitish
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053zk4pn from 1 hr 10 mins in,
Good bloke, trained and licenced bus driver, commutes 40 miles per day, then drives a large pcv all day thank you Dave Sherry.
aracer - Member
dereknightrider ยป You'll all be happy no doubt when the result of actions by idiots like this has you all sporting number plates so they can get you back, it's only fair after all..
Just for the sake of argument I'll ignore most of your posts and assume you're a rational person capable of making an argument - why do you think prosecuting drivers breaking the law will result in cyclists having to use number plates?
Well lets take it to its logical conclusion shall we, you're all as I would expect pretty happy with what he's doing, indeed probably a lot of you also do it, so the car drivers are pretty shortly going to cry victimisation, fit their own cameras (some are doing that already) to catch all your mates running red lights, bouncing up and down pavements, of course it's none of us, we all cycle totally responsibly, but those cabbies, they'll make a powerful argument for rear number plates and with that? Guess what? Tax for the privilege.
Mark my words, action like this is what provokes that sort of response, 70 private prosecutions, that's not many surely some of you can do better than that? Pile in, eat it up...
Civilians doing the states job for them hmm what's that called again?
Anyone for Godwin?
[i]70 private prosecutions[/i]
Are you sure they're private prosecutions or just him reporting drivers to the police?
Civilians capturing evidence ina situation where the police are not present...
Don't need licence plates for most cyclists anyway, not like we are hiding behind tinted glass, I ride the same road everyday as well.
And 70 convictions, not slaps on the wrist, serious treatment of serious offences.
wwaswas - Member
70 private prosecutionsAre you sure they're private prosecutions or just him reporting drivers to the police?
No you're probably right, technically not private prosecutions, he talked about state controlled websites you can go on to report your fellow citizens..
My view on "grasses" is this: If you are stupid enough to let someone see you do something illegal then you deserve to be prosecuted. Only the shit criminals get caught.
[i]state controlled websites you can go on to report your fellow citizens.. [/i]
only the ones doing wrong, surely?
"If you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear"
, fit their own cameras (some are doing that already) to catch all your mates running red lights, bouncing up and down pavements, of course it's none of us, we all cycle totally responsibly,
Ah. I see. You ride like an idiot so that is why you feel threatened.
wwaswas - Member
state controlled websites you can go on to report your fellow citizens..only the ones doing wrong, surely?
"If you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear"
Doing wrong is a matter of opinion, not always your own and in a state such as this has become something that is constantly changing for the worse.
You should try a speed awareness course some time, see just how many rules there are now since you took your test.
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[i]Doing wrong is a matter of opinion[/i]
well, in this case it's a matter of law but don't let the facts get in the way of a good troll, eh.
Civilians doing the states job for them hmm what's that called again?
er...the police [i]are[/i] civilians. Didn't they teach you about the Peterloo massacre and Robert Peel at school?
Evil triumphs when good men (and women) do nothing...
[quote=dereknightrider ]the car drivers are pretty shortly going to cry victimisation, fit their own cameras (some are doing that already) to catch all your mates running red lights, bouncing up and down pavements
Not my mates, and good I hope they do. They'll find that just like the cyclists with cameras most of the people breaking the law are drivers. You and all your driver mates on that JV FB page are missing the point that if you drive legally and safely you won't be prosecuted - good drivers, even if they never ride a bicycle should be thanking him too.
those cabbies, they'll make a powerful argument for rear number plates and with that? Guess what? Tax for the privilege.
A powerful argument, just like the one you're making here? ๐ Tax? Srsly? I'm quite happy to pay VED on my bicycle using the same charging system as used for cars if that's what you're suggesting will happen ๐
Mark my words, action like this is what provokes that sort of response,
Lots of drivers who break the law getting all worked up and frothing at the mouth demanding something must be done about people who help the police enforce the law? I'm sure those in power will give that all the attention it deserves.
Anyone for Godwin?
You're feeling the need to deflect the argument by resorting to that already?
people always say this, but it's pretty obvious what is 'popular opinion' ina current climate, not that it changes what you can be prosecuted for. That's kind of fixed in law.Doing wrong is a matter of opinion, not always your own.
dereknightrider - Memberso the car drivers are pretty shortly going to cry victimisation
And everyone will laugh at them
[quote=dereknightrider ]Doing wrong is a matter of opinion, not always your own and in a state such as this has become something that is constantly changing for the worse.
Is it time to talk about zombie maggots yet?
dereknightrider -
You should try a speed awareness course some time, see just how many rules there are now since you took your test
Ah, reported by a cyclist for bad driving were we? ๐
When car drivers pay road tax and display tax disks I'll happily do the same.
OP he just reports the incidents to the police with his video evidence.
I think this is a potentially slippery slope where there could be a backlash and cyclists are pursued for needing registration marks and filmed going the wrong way down one way streets and jumping traffic lights.
I think this is a potentially slippery slope where there could be a backlash and cyclists are pursued for needing registration marks and filmed going the wrong way down one way streets and jumping traffic lights.
Where there are cyclists taking risks and potentially causing harm (even to themselves) they should be reported. If the police get lots of reports about cyclists at a location or all of the same description them they will be forced to act and hopefully will result in either the individual reprimanded or the road layout changed to reduce risk.
By all means say it will never happen or that police are rubbish blah blah. But if everyone sits on their hands what do you expect will happen in the end, both with drivers and reckless cyclists (or people on bikes for those who prefer not to use the term cyclists. Also, I don't buy the opinion that 'police should go after drivers not cyclists as cars are more dangerous', yes they may be, but break the law = pay the fine. Otherwise you just get stuck ina. Loop of blame.
Only here would somebody who complains about a person who thinks its fine to film and get prosecuted 70 of his fellow man in one particular commuter group for spurious traffic related offences, be called a troll...
I hope and pray I'm not back here in a few months being called a troll for pointing out why the new number plate for (Boris & other)commuter bikes rule came about.
And that's the last I'll say on the subject.
Enjoy your hero.
