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There is, depending on who you speak to a slight rift between road biking and mountain biking. Two very different disciplines However a lot of road riders mountain bike and many mountain bikers road ride esp in winter. I do find however I say helloe to MTB'rs and get a suitable responce but prob more often with road riders esp ones on their won I get ignored (not always mind you!). No thats not a trolling comment 😉

It's not really an English comment either, is it? 😉

Even on the road bike I get ignored by other roadies...There must be some sort of masonic thing that I don't know about... 😀

why a lot of people seem to refer to riding road bikes as the 'darkside' ?

Because they are pillocks.

HTH

I think MTB'rs don't really class themselves as such - I certainly class myself as a cyclist who like mountain biking the best but don't mind changing the record by doing a bit of roadying now and again. I feel roadies rarely venture into MTB so don't see it from the otherside?

Do you have a peak on your helmet nickc? might be the problem.

(Dont tell anyone, but i noticed Lance had a peak on his helmet the other day in the tour :O Keep it on the down low)

Because there's a lot of catchphrase "humour" fans on here?

[i]I feel roadies rarely venture into MTB [/i]

This is bobbins. Kingtut seconded. 🙂

I feel roadies rarely venture into MTB

pfftt..

I'm 40 and been riding bikes most of my life. I started on road bikes and then mountain bikes in the late 80's. I now ride road, mountain bikes and cross bikes. I say hello or wave to everyone I see riding regardless of what they are on, I just enjoy riding and don't get this labeling thing?!

[i]a lot of people seem to refer to riding road bikes as the 'darkside' ?[/i]

But they are idiots who are unable to think for themselves, they see other people saying 'darkside' so they feel the need to do it too as they are desperate to conform.

I couldn't give a toss who says hello and who doesn't. All this 'I get ignored' stuff is pathetic - do you need people to say hellow to you all the time? Speeds are higher on the road and passing another rider coming the other way it's usually pretty hard to hear a hello - look for a slight raising of the hand or a nod in your direction if you really feel a desperate need to belong.

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why a lot of people seem to refer to riding road bikes as the 'darkside' ?

Because they are pillocks.

HTH

Spot on.

Kingtut thirded! Nimrods!

they take themselves very seriously, but then again, i actually thing EVERY sport takes itself seriously in comparison to MTBing...

its not so much that they are the dark side, but we are the enlightened ones who dont get caught up in "politics"

because it is an unspeakable perversion, leading one to suppose deep evil within its protagonists :o)

[i]its not so much that they are the dark side, but we are the enlightened ones who dont get caught up in "politics" [/i]

utter pish and a sweeping generalisation. Mountain bikers do dress like tramps when they ride though.

I couldn't give a toss who says hello and who doesn't.

Its just what we do in the country! I must say when I lived in various cities in the past people are not that willing to make eye contact etc... esp london. We say hello to our fellow humans - its called being sociable. It feels good when you acknowledge peoples presence - don't you feel you want to say hello or "morning"?

Speeds are higher on the road and passing another rider coming the other way it's usually pretty hard to hear a hello

Absolute rubbish IMO - a smile, lip reading, wave - all the same - acknowledgement - my local roadie club usually say hello to me - its the serious single rider who see's you but blanks you - Yes I do find that rude I have to say - rightly or wrongly! 🙂

(Dont tell anyone, but i noticed Lance had a peak on his helmet the other day in the tour :O Keep it on the down low)

Did he? I thought so but then decided it was his glasses stuck on the front of his lid.

If he did that obviously explains why he hasn't won the tour already.

[i]Absolute rubbish IMO[/i]

Really, perhaps you just ride very slowly. But 2 riders passing at 20mph makes it quite difficult to hear each other unless you shout. Now that would be desperate for recognition.

[i]don't you feel you want to say hello or "morning"?[/i]

But I couldn't care less if someone reciprocates. Do you say hello to everyone you walk past in the street?

But I couldn't care less if someone reciprocates.

OK maybe you don't hear every word but its a gesture like noding, smiling - you know your out having a fun ride (HAVING FUN) and I smile at someone as I am having a GOOD TIME! OK you don't have to but have you ever tried smiling at soemone whilst riding on! 😉

[i]Glad I don't see you out on a ride then ya misserable wotsit! [/i]

Eh, I'm mesirable because I don't care if someone says hello back or not? How do you work that one out, do you know what 'reciprocates' means?

Do roadies refer to going mountain biking as the darkside I wonder?

Don't have a problem with people calling it the 'darkside'. Just like a silly nickname...don't see that its ever taken that seriously: a bit of banter between slightly different groups.

'Do roadies refer to going mountain biking as the darkside I wonder?'

No, it's just another form of cycling, it's not a big deal.

[i]No. [/i]

So is there a roadie nickname for mountain biking?

dogging

'So is there a roadie nickname for mountain biking?'

Dunno, but if there is it would be used by the same childish types that call road riding the 'darkside'.

It's all cycling.

Do you say hello, or morning to people. I guess from your posts you do. So if you don't care why say hello? Maybe I am missing the point Gary_M.

I can see you are not bothered about anyone saying hello back but where I live its just a way of life when you are out walking, riding etc - So if people don't do it I;m taken aback at little. Perhaps in other areas people arn't so bothered about talking to other people etc....

Bike Radar link - [url= http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/humour-tips-for-becoming-a-roadie-14451 ]http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/humour-tips-for-becoming-a-roadie-14451[/url]

Humour: Tips for becoming a roadie! Just passing it on - ......running away..... 🙂

(Dont tell anyone, but i noticed Lance had a peak on his helmet the other day in the tour :O Keep it on the down low)

Armstrong nearly always wears a peak if it's raining

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[i]Do you say hello, or morning to people[/i]

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Depends on a lot of things, traffic conditions, speed, weather, etc. I don't have a rule though and expect everyone else to follow it and consider them rude if they don't.

[i]Dunno, but if there is it would be used by the same childish types that call road riding the 'darkside'.

It's all cycling. [/i]

As childish as you may consider it having some types calling it darkside or whatever, I find others can take it all to seriously...its just a bit of fun: no harm done.

Did he? I thought so but then decided it was his glasses stuck on the front of his lid.

He sure did, on that rainy stage. He has had his glasses on the front of his helmet though (yesterday i think)

Peak on a road bike?!?! has he no shame? 😉

No harm at all. If you want to be immature and have a silly nickname for things then I ain't bothered. It does make you sound a bit of an idiot though amongst 'serious' cyclists. I can imagine those that say it also call their bike a 'steed'.

>dogging

Well, it often involves getting out of yer clothes in carparks on the edge of woodlane, so I guess there's some similarity 😉

No-one's mentioned the *other* darkside...recumbents !

Must say I always thought the term was tongue in cheek...dunno why anyone takes offence to it...equally some folks on one of the (US-centric) recumbent forums seem to think 'roadie' is a perjorative....

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. Depends on a lot of things, traffic conditions, speed, weather, etc. I don't have a rule though and expect everyone else to follow it and consider them rude if they don't.

I don't expect people to folow my rule I am just disapointed when people don't respond. Perhaps I am just happy and sociable when I ride and want to share that with others. No I don't want to be everyones friend and I am not knowingly mentally aflicted - just my opinion.

your entitled you your opinions!

utter pish and a sweeping generalisation. Mountain bikers do dress like tramps when they ride though.

make you sound a bit of an idiot though amongst 'serious' cyclists

So is there a roadie nickname for mountain biking?

Dunno what the problem is with expecting a reciprocated hello if "it's all cycling". Yes I say hi/wave if I see another cyclist, no I don't wave hello to everyone in the street but if I'm out in the countryside I tend to greet anyone I meet walker/biker/horsey. If you're in a minority/gang/clique/niche it's nice to say hi, and in the street we are certainly a minority. None bikeys at work don't get it either "I don't wave to all the other drivers".

mind you I don't get all P'd Off about it if they don't reciprocate.

f you want to be immature and have a silly nickname for things then I ain't bothered.

might there not be other reasons ? Like the natural urge to make fun out of everyone?

[i]I'll bet there is and I bet on a roadie forum somewhere there's someone moaning about it right now[/i]

I bet there isn't.

mind you I don't get all P'd Off about it if they don't reciprocate.

"Cross dressing" is an expression i've heard re road cyclists riding mtbs.

the darkside is a comment that relates to star wars not cycling therefore in my eyes people should just see it for what it is.. a laugh and a bit of fun.
not saying hello or reciprocating is rude tho wheather on any bike or not.

not saying hello or reciprocating is rude tho wheather on any bike or not.

I think I remember reading that US roadies call mountainbikers "Freds", after Fred Flintstone.

I like Freds - thats cool 😉

[i]why a lot of people seem to refer to riding road bikes as the 'darkside' ? [/i]

But do they ??
never seen reference to that phrase for roadies outside of stw....

.....as for humorous names for 'mountain' bikers how about tractor boys, trench diggers, porkers, roofrackers, kitchen-sinkers, dung beetles, horse botherers, slime-monkeys or worstest of all 'mlehers'

😉

tractor boys, trench diggers, porkers, roofrackers, kitchen-sinkers, dung beetles, horse botherers, slime-monkeys or worstest of all 'mlehers'

I too find it rather sad that one branch of a sport doesnt acknowledge a friendly hello from another branch.
Is it not nice when you are out walking or riding in the countryside to get a hello when you pass another soul enjoying our wonderful country?
Not wonder the worlds going to hell in a handbasket when you cant even get a hello from another human being.
Gary_m you could really do with easing up a bit on the grump-o-meter!

I can't help but wonder why the obvious roadies on here get so agressive about it.

I from the "artificial lightside" being an indoor track rider some of the time.

I think "brownside" would be better for describing MTBing.

Modern mountain bikes are sometimes refered to as the "darkside" on retrobike.co.uk.

As per DezB

Nor do I get pi$$ed off,

No offense taken D0NK - I got the flack for that earlier - Its like holding the door open for people - its just common decency and manner and just being just plain NICE - Do a lot of work for charity but don't like to talk about it 😉

hey foxyrider if your wife ever fancies a bit of rough then give me a shout. She must get sick of being around 'Mr Niceguy' at times.

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No she likes me being nice - she would prefer me if I never swore, moaned or was angry. You can ask her if you like!

Are you having a bad monday Gary? Do you need to get things off your chest - try yoga or medetation!

[i]You can ask her if you like![/i]

I already have.

go for it if you think you have a chance - I have my own predictions on that one!

Been there, done it, never again. She kept asking me round for 'a bite to eat' when you were out. I refused on many occasions.

And that would be too gentlemanlly of you coz your a bit of rough - are you of the shaved leg brigade or do you keep your legs hairy?

BTW people of a certain intelligence have to go to a base level in order to argue a point? And they change their posts because they are rude 😉

I find the whole dark side thing a bit childish, when someone says it you just know they haven't really got a clue. Doesn't bother me though and I know they're not part of 'the scene'.

As for the waving thing, well each to their own. When I pass people I always turned round and say hello. Not sure if they reply as I'm usually long gone. Not fussed either way if they reply or not to be honest. Just because someone rides a bike doesn't mean I want to be pals with them.

Seems to me foxyrider that you are way to bothered about it, but you do appear overly fixated by the whole 'rudeness' thing. However you really need to sort out the 'your' and 'you're' thing. No excuse for poor grammar from one so polite.

Oh and I've had your wife too - I was no gent and she certainly didn't behave like a lady 😉

BlackDog = troll with a low IQ 😉

I find the whole dark side thing a bit childish

then

Oh and I've had your wife too - I was no gent and she certainly didn't behave like a lady

Hmm doesn't add up to me!

foxyrider = silly little man who can't think of decent comeback. Low IQ? I could buy and sell ya fella.

There was a smiley insterted after that 'wife' comment but it didn't show up. I was taking the piss, lighten up, chill out, relax ffs.

Low IQ? I could buy and sell ya fella.

I am perfectly calm here at in my office - just think you need to stop being a child and argue your case properly without silly little digs and childish comments 😯

And yes I do have a sense of humour but obviously not the same as yours 🙂

LOL@the last few posts.

On the topic of the darkside thing, its called banter. Lighten the **** up.

On the topic of the darkside thing, its called banter. Lighten the **** up.

Oh blimey looked at the original topic and we have gone way off topic oops. hugs to my fellow argumentees 😉

foxyrider: all the trollic tenacity of RudeBoy or TJ, but not as amusing. 😉

oh biach BigDummy. I did try but failed..... Nevermind I'll read more RudeBoy and TJ posts and learn 😉

Lol at foxyrider

[i]My dad could be your dad[/i] – are you suggesting we are ‘brothers from another mother’?

[i]argue your case properly without silly little digs and childish comments[/i] – amidst a string of name calling.

[i]I am perfectly calm here at in my office[/i] Yeh, for sure fella.

Oh the irony.

I was actually being ironic . Honest - you're great BlackDog.

hmmm.... my heart rate never got about 60 bpm - I had some fava beans and a glass of chianti - wanna come over BlackDog!

DingDing: Round two 😉

Oh dear.

Oh dear.

No, not at all.

OK - you getting bored BlackDog?

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Answering the original post I think its just a little joke at the expense of road cyclists but not one that is intended cause offense. 😀

Oh and just realised the new preview thingy below - nifty that!

BTW PeterPoddy - just havin a laugh really - bit of friendly heated banter!

Wow.

I really can't believe people are getting so wound up about this. It's a bluddy nickname. A bit of fun. In a way it's a compliment, if you think about it.
Have some of you nothing better to get wound up about?

And the same term is used by another group to describe one of their factions, too. And it's a lot nicer than the nicknames skiers have for snowboarders and visa-versa, too!

Chill dudes.
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[i]why a lot of people seem to refer to riding road bikes as the 'darkside' ?

Because they are pillocks.
[/i]

Another possibility is that it's harmless fun maybe? Personally, although mountain biking's my main thing, I've also got a road bike that I love riding. I still refer to it as the darkside though. It's just a laugh, nothing to get too bothered about.

I've never called it the Darkside.
But from now on I shall refer to it as the Uptight Side.

roadside

mountainside

I know where I'd rather be..... 🙂