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I know it's poor form, but i ordered a HOPE Pro4 wheel from my LBS last week, 142x12 rear, orange hub, black XC rim, so slightly specific to me.
This was because i've been having issues with my front on the Whyte T130 not staying true.... so i bought and collected a front about 6-8 weeks ago.#
Since ordering, our washing machine has gone pear shaped and is a £400 replacement item...
So i'm struggling with the wheel cost now as my rear is currently OK, i was buying it more because i could and it matched and would be longer lasting, rather than a necessity because the rear is broken.

I'm not sure if i'm now obliged (morally or actually) to collect it, or whether it's just slightly poor form to not collect, or whether i'm burning bridges with LBS who i get on well with (as a customer only, not a mate etc), or..... Well... What's the protocol under these circumstances ?


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:06 am
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That's very poor form, especially for something that specific and expensive.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:08 am
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phone and ask if they end up with a charge for returning items to Hope?

I assume they'll get postage charges each way in any event - how do you feel about paying those?


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:10 am
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I'm assuming you [b]were [/b]a regular customer if they didn't want a deposit from you...

Personally I'd not be spending £400 on a new washing machine though!


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:10 am
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That's called being a dick.

I've ordered something similar for a customer last week, but he's paid £100 deposit.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:10 am
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They've ordered it on your request. I doubt you are obliged to buy it but if not I'd be mighty annoyed if I were the owner of the LBS and like you say it would burn bridges for the future


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:10 am
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Personally I'd not be spending £400 on a new washing machine thoug

I don't make the washing machine decisions. That's down to Mrs Weeksy and it arrives tomorrow.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:11 am
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Looks like i'm putting the wheel on the Credit Card then 🙂


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:12 am
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What's wrong with a 200 pound washing machine ? Ours seems to wash clothes.

I wouldn't bother showing face in the shop again if you order something custom/specific and don't take it, it's not cool

Ah I see not being a dick has prevailed . Good choice. 🙂


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:12 am
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If you have to ask, you already know the answer.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:14 am
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What's wrong with a 200 pound washing machine

I'd invite Mrs Weeksy over to answer, but then she'll know i've spent £400 on wheels recently 🙂


 
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Posted : 26/09/2017 11:14 am
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Mrs Weeksy buys washing machine
You buy wheel
Sorted


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:16 am
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What's wrong with £200 wheel?

Oh hang on, I've got that all wrong 😉


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:16 am
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[i]What's wrong with £200 wheel?

Oh hang on, I've got that all wrong[/i]

🙂


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:18 am
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Personally I'd not be spending £400 on a new washing machine thoug

Me neither. Ours was about £240 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. Dirty clothes in, clean clothes out. Job done.

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And Mrs PP has Hope Hoops on her Kona. That's how it's done!


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:19 am
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I assume this is a certain LBS that stock Whyte?
If so, lovely bunch and Mark deserves the support.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:20 am
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I assume this is a certain LBS that stock Whyte?
If so, lovely bunch and Mark deserves the support.

Nope... Random LBS who happens to sell Hope 🙂


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:21 am
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Me neither. Ours was about £240 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. Dirty clothes in, clean clothes out. Job done.

She wanted specific spin rates, certain cycles, various other things, plus delivery this week, along with fitting and taking the other one away. I think it was £350 before the extra little bits...

Whether it's wonderful, average or the best washing machine on the planet, i care very little.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:22 am
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What's wrong with a 200 pound washing machine ?

I bought one last week for one of my rental flats. It was £167, washes clothes, looks alright, has a digital display, etc.

Unless it's an integrated machine then there's no need to spend £400 if you're struggling with money.

As for delivery this week, I went to shop, bought it, put it in the back of my car and took it home.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:23 am
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[quote=PeterPoddy ]Me neither. Ours was about £240 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. Dirty clothes in, clean clothes out. Job done.

Quite. No real advantage to a £400 one.

Unlike a bike wheel, where... oh, hang on...


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:23 am
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As for delivery this week, I went to shop, bought it, put it in the back of my car and took it home.

That's nice for you 🙂


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:26 am
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Unlike a bike wheel, where... oh, hang on...

Ooh, well held sir 🙂


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 11:31 am
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I’ve only spent about £450 on a pair of wheels - £400 seems a lot to spend on one wheel...!


 
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Posted : 26/09/2017 12:04 pm
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She wanted specific spin rates, certain cycles, [b]various other things[/b]

I think a washing machine and some wheels are the least of your worries

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Posted : 26/09/2017 12:07 pm
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There is another option..
Phone the lbs and explain the situation ..ie..be completely honest with the bloke and see what he says..
If he is able to return the item and you are willing to pay the postage then no harm done and he will probably respect you more for being so upfront ..
He might well insist that you purchase the item ..but you will never know unless you ask ..


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:14 pm
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As said earlier, don't be a dick. Put yourself in bike shop guys position, how would you feel?.


 
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and he will probably respect you more for being so upfront ..

Possible. Although he would respect you more if you paid for what you ordered obviously 😉


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:20 pm
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LOL i asked you answered, i'll be collecting the wheel this afternoon


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:24 pm
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Phone the lbs and explain the situation

This! Even better, go in and see them.

See if they can do it on credit or hang onto them until next payday for a £50 deposit, they won't want to lose the sale and will be happier being told straight than strung along, most suppliers will take back anything they're only just sent, leave it a few weeks and they're likely to be less willing as they will have ordered or manufactured replacement stock.

Hope work on pro-forma (i.e. pay up front) for shops so they will have already paid for your wheels, please bear that in mind.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:26 pm
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Personally I'd not be spending £400 on a new washing machine thoug

Me neither. Ours was about £240 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all. Dirty clothes in, clean clothes out. Job done.

Yeah, right on. Why spend £4K on a bike, when you can ride round the woods on a £100 Halfords special :roll:. Lots of people don't understand why you would spend that much on a bike, even when you try to explain the differences.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:32 pm
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door handle on that car looks broken, bet that's about £400


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:32 pm
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this is why you should buy online lol


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:35 pm
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If you want to use the shop again, you're pretty much obliged to buy the wheel really.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:41 pm
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this is why you should buy online lol

Quite the opposite, if he'd bought online he'd already paid for it and would now be out of pocket whilst he waited for the refund, plus the hassle of posting them back, them possibly going missing etc etc.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:44 pm
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Quite the opposite, if he'd bought online he'd already paid for it and would now be out of pocket whilst he waited for the refund, plus the hassle of posting them back, them possibly going missing etc etc.

he could have returned them for a refund per the distance selling regulations or cancelled the order before they arrived.

There is nothing to stop you cancelling the order, if you need the money for something else I would cancel them. At the end of the day, who is more important you or the bike shop.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:50 pm
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Quite the opposite, if he'd bought online he'd already paid for it and [s]would now be out of pocket whilst he waited for the refund, plus the hassle of posting them back, them possibly going missing etc etc.[/s] his missus wouldn't have been able to spend the cash on a damn washing machine

FTFY. But yeah, don't be a dick. Either buy it or at least talk to them and discuss options. Can they keep it for a month or whatever.


 
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Quite the opposite, if he'd bought online he'd already paid for it and would now be out of pocket whilst he waited for the refund, plus the hassle of posting them back, them possibly going missing etc etc.

Nah, this is the old LBS argument and holds little water now. Wiggle do 12 month returns (obviously if the item is unused!) with free postage. It's a tracked return and I've never had anything go missing, ever, and if it did, it would not be your problem anyway. The hassle is no more than slapping a label on it and taking it to your nearest 24/7 petrol station.

Honestly, returning unwanted stuff online is less hassle for me than it would be taking it back to the LBS and I find warranty returns comparable - i.e. both LBS and online stores seem to insist on sending stuff back to the manufacturer first which can take bloody ages 🙁


 
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Absolute worse case scenario, get wheel, pay for wheel and sell wheel as brand new for a price that won't hurt your wallet with too much loss.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:53 pm
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There is nothing to stop you cancelling the order, if you need the money for something else I would cancel them. At the end of the day, who is more important you or the bike shop.

This is why i asked on here.. .because as with distance selling regs etc we as customers often send things back, hell, i come home to bags and bags of stuff from Next for the wife and boy, but she only keeps 1 item, the rest go back. Same as if i buy motorbike/bike parts that are not quite as i hoped etc, so i was asking you lot to see if you felt it was acceptable. The consensus seems to be no.

The LBS has been excellent over the years, great comms, great work and great prices on wheel truing and headset stuff, which are the only things i use them for. So the last thing i want to do is it P*** them off and turn them from a friendly LBS into a place i cannot go.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:57 pm
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Dirty clothes in, clean clothes out. Job done.

I've always wondered how they work.............. 8)


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:57 pm
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Seems mad budgeting from the same account. Why don't you have a separate account for joint and house related stuff and then a separate account for your own stuff.


 
Posted : 26/09/2017 12:59 pm
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Seems mad budgeting from the same account. Why don't you have a separate account for joint and house related stuff and then a separate account for your own stuff.

LOL i'm not going to go into a discussion on how me and the wife do or don't allocate our finances in the world.


 
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