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 benz
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So, assuming I survive redundancy again, I fancy a new bike...also a big birthday later this year.

Quite fancy a new hard tail as I really don't need enduro travel fs, etc,etc.

Alternative is my mate has offered up a surplus 29'er Canyon al frame and bits - it may build into a decent hardtail with appropriate forks, etc.

However, Bird or Sonder?


 
Posted : 10/09/2017 10:23 pm
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Never ridden a sonder. Have ridden a Bird. But not the current one. Anyway, get the Bird. Help?


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 12:10 am
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My first hardtail for years was a Bird Zero TR that i bought Easter this year. Excellent bike with even more excellent customer support.


 
Posted : 11/09/2017 9:27 am
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I have the Sonder NX Revelation and I love it. I recommend trying a plus bike before you buy one though as they do feel different to a normal hardtail. I changed the wheels to a set of Hopes with Easton 35mm rims as I didn't like 45mm rims. The standard wheelset is very heavy, the Hopes transformed the ride.


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 8:37 am
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I'm slowly building up a Bird Zero AM. It's a beautiful looking thing. I can also vouch for their great customer service. The Sonders look lovely too though. I suppose it's down to whether you fancy running plus tyres or not. The zeros can run up to 2.5s. Do you need fatter tyres?


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 10:09 am
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I would stick to the Bird but that's because I don't understand Plus. I find 25mm + 2.35 tyres about perfect for anything off-road so I don't get the need for bigger. I have tried a fat bike once and understood even less !


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 10:13 am
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Alpkit will post you a transmitter to demo for a weekend, worth a go.

https://www.alpkit.com/support/stickies/sonder-bike-demo-days


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 12:52 pm
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I thought everbody's heard about the Bird?
Don't you know about the bird?

Bird is the word.

DrP


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 1:18 pm
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I think ^^^ should seal the deal really.


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 1:32 pm
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I have a Sonder Transmitter and am running it with normal 2.4 maxxis high roller 2s. You don't have to run plus on them.


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 3:03 pm
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What size rims are you running the HR2s on Lemures (or is it Casper) ? ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 16/09/2017 8:11 pm
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What size rims are you running the HR2s on Lemures (or is it Casper) ?

I was running them on WTB Asym i35s which worked great. I now have DT Swiss 28mm internal rims on there and these are almost as good but the tires are about 60mm wide not 63mm.

The Transmitter only has a gap of 78.5mm so you can't go too big. i tried 2.8 NNics (72mm wide) but they where quite close to the stays. Ok in the dry but rubbish in the mud. I think it's best with 2.4-2.6s


 
Posted : 17/09/2017 6:07 pm
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[img][url= https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4381/37198141972_607274312c_z.jp g" target="_blank">https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4381/37198141972_607274312c_z.jp g"/> [/img][/url][url= https://flic.kr/p/YF5cDo ]Bird Zero AM[/url] by [url= https://www.flickr.com/photos/159661818@N08/ ]Gavin Williams[/url], on Flickr[/img]


 
Posted : 21/09/2017 6:07 pm
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Whats your location OP? Any opportunity to test ride a bird.


 
Posted : 21/09/2017 6:12 pm
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Took it on its maiden voyage this morning. It's pretty awesome. My first taste of modern bike, having ridden a 456 Evo for a few of years. Highly recommend one. But knowing that the Sonder is happy on non-plus wheels, I think you'd be sorted whichever you choose.


 
Posted : 21/09/2017 6:25 pm