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Three helmet-less MTBers clocked me from afar yesterday evening and literally raced in my direction. Call me paranoid but I didn't hang around to see if they were just looking for a new route to try. It was a bit in the middle of nowhere afterall. I lost them 😀


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:14 pm
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I already stated that i have never had a bike stolen (besides a shocking old 3 speed thing i was trying to get rid for years and it took days before anyone took it) (i was 9 and wanted a new bike)

That sounds very complacent, past luck is no guarantee of future luck.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:14 pm
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You shouldn't be so literal minded. mr_a was raising a valid point, that of whether the onus is really on us to build mini fort knoxes everywhere just to keep our bikes, which is a perfectly valid thing to discuss on a thread about security. This either passed you by or the subtlety of the argument is lost on you.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:15 pm
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Aspergers and forum use go hand in hand don't they?

Yes it is a valid point that mra made - and a valiant one - but unfortunatly an argument bikes thieves care little for i suspect.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:21 pm
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Fantastic, personal insults now eh?

If you want to discuss bike security fine, no need to be so snappy if people raise points you don't like.

Asking for specific details of individuals setups, bad idea, especially given the inherant vunerability of ANY amount of security to an organised theif. Especially if you're going to suggest that all MTBers adopt some kind of minimum level of security, of a given type, becuase then it'd be very easy for a theif to just replicate the methods endlessly.

... and to completely ignore the culpability of the theif, placing the onus on keeping their kit entirely on the owner, inferring that owners that won't follow the security advice of a bunch of squabbling forum dwellers it tantamount to gross negligence, also pretty shaky ground. I'm not going to suggest you were attempting to suggest this, but to shout a guy down for saying that your OP could have been construed in this manner, isn't really on eh?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:31 pm
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Posted : 09/06/2009 3:35 pm
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ha ha see - now your doing it - you said i failed to get mr-a's subtlety - so i refered to aspegers (this being a condition where people take things lierally - as you said i was doing - so [u]obviouisly[/u] i must have been refering to myself - and you think i'm insulting [u]you[/u]

priceless.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:38 pm
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Posted : 09/06/2009 3:41 pm
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Ooo, you won, well done, should we call MBUK now about that cover shot?

I do hope this thread has been useful to those researching bike security.

I know I've had a whale of a time 🙂


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:42 pm
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criky what hit that hippo?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:42 pm
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Indeed Anothedeadhero - you surely do win the internet - thanks for your invaluable contributions.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:43 pm
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Posted : 09/06/2009 3:44 pm
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Any time shoefiti.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:46 pm
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Indeed Anothedeadhero - you surely do win the internet - thanks for your invaluable contributions.

Indeed all your base are belong to us.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:48 pm
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same time next week? i'll be discusing gluten free flapjack recipes if your interested.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:48 pm
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I think that's highly inappropriate, it could lead flapjack theives straight to my door 😡


 
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Indeed all your base are belong to us.

now if i could only work out what that meant.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:50 pm
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i've had problems with the hamburgular before - he's on parole again now you know.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:51 pm
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shoefiti - Member

Indeed all your base are belong to us.

now if i could only work out what that meant.

Welcome to the internets.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:51 pm
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I've never had any problems burgling ham.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:53 pm
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I've never had any problems burgling ham.

Can you give me any ham security tips?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:54 pm
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you can keep your internets if that's how you talk - gibbeldygook.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:55 pm
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Can you give me any ham security tips?

never let anyone follow you home with ham - always keep your ham in the house if possible - and try to always ham, with others - standard ham protocols in this day and age.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:57 pm
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Could anyone show me a picture of their ham security?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 3:58 pm
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I wire my ham up to the mains, ensures a nasty shock if anyone tries to sneakily covert my ham.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:00 pm
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erm - i can't apparently google image is confused.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:01 pm
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Shoefiti, I don't know what your problem seems to be, but every time you post on this forum it's to have a whinge about something, be it Mr Carr (who I suspect, despite some of his palmares being a bit Jackanory, you'd never come close to beating in a race), Facebook (how original), or those silly mountain bikers who assume (quite reasonably most of the time) that they're not being followed home from Wales by gangs of organised thieves.

I've also come into your line of fire for organising some repairs to the mountain bike trails around Bristol (which, judging by the post Bike Fest comments seem to have been widely appreciated) and having the temerity to start up a blog to try and do something about Bristol's increasing bike theft problem (which again, seems to have been positively received, and has helped reunite a couple of people with their stolen bikes already, including me).

For all I know (seeing how you prefer to remain anonymous) you could be sat at your desk chortling away at each semi-earnest attempt at a response to your tiresome negative comments. But you do tend to come across as sincere, which is a tad worrying. If that is the case, just accept that not everyone feels the same way you do, and ultimately if people are having their bikes nicked while yours sit in your impregnable garage, it's their problem, not yours.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:02 pm
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I've got it, some leaves, a big hole and sharpened bamboo spikes - hangins to good for ham theives innit.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:03 pm
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I wire my ham up to the mains, ensures a nasty shock if anyone tries to sneakily covert my ham.

I trust the ham is supported in a saline solution to enhance conductivity?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:03 pm
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kingtut, I hear you can satellite track your ham:

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Only really viable if you ham is worth in excess of £1000 though.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:03 pm
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Edit: stoopid server.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:06 pm
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I've also come into your line of fire for organising some repairs to the mountain bike trails around Bristol (which, judging by the post Bike Fest comments seem to have been widely appreciated)

errrr i have never said anything of the sort Mr_a Ever i as many others appreciate the work you have done - and would challange you to find that i or others have said otherwisem without your hard efforts last weekend would of been a royal shambles!!!


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:06 pm
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@ anotherdeadhero - that's the only one i got too! looks like you could remove it quite easily.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:07 pm
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Rubbish innit? Its almost like ham connoisseurs don't take their ham security seriously enough.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:09 pm
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i have never said anything of the sort Mr_a

Fair enough, seems that I was confusing you with another chap on here who has an irrational obsession with a manager of a local bike shop.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:15 pm
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Amd also Mr_a i think for the record that your pro-active approach to bike theft in Bristol is to be commended - it is something the police should of been on ages ago - i what got my gripe was that rather than offer anything to my argument which i admit started poorly was that it didn't help what i (with hindsight poorly outlined) see as an issue of crime deterant/prevention. I was ranting as a freind of mines was broken into last week and had a great deal of kit pinched - yet due to lack of adequate security niether himself od the neighbours heard/saw anything. And this is becoming an all too regular occurance i think you'll agree.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:15 pm
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@anotherdeadhero - any bacon theft images?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:16 pm
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Fair enough, seems that I was confusing you with another chap on here who has an irrational obsession with a manager of a local bike shop.

I saw Matt Carr serving in Evans the other day, does he manage the branch then?


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:16 pm
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just a word of warning - apply safty search! yuk.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:18 pm
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and @ mr_a just because people approach things in a different way than you it doesn't mean their intentions are wrong - you seem to have made your mind up about me one way or another, or hopefully confusing me with someone else - either way i'm not out to get you i don't really know how/why that came across. Sit down - relax - have some ham.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:24 pm
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Don't have alarms, don't always lock my bikes either TBH, and they live in a shed, which is unlocked, and I've had bikes nicked before. My deterrent is called insurance, it's the best form of deterrent as I get all my stuff back every time exactly as it was before.

They're just bikes, lumps of metal and plastic, I don't care enough to get all medieval about protecting them.


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:37 pm
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I may be wrong nick, but I'm not sure that makes it a "deterrent"...

😉


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:39 pm
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NickC, they probably have your address saved as a favourite in their Satnav. 😉


 
Posted : 09/06/2009 4:40 pm
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some thieves near me got caught. They were climbing a bacon tree....

...turned out to be a ham-bush 😆


 
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