[Closed] Bike park Wales!

a mate of mine went today and sent me text updates (we going there tomorrow) mostly along the lines of "reds are crazy" and "blacks are mental", he did phone to say that the black runs are unlike anything else in South Wales and are the trails he'd ridden today were "quite seriously steep"

Anyone not use the uplift?

A comparison to Gawton would be interesting too.

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And I'm going in a few weeks.....Looking forward to it!

Going in the morning!

#excited.com

Having been involved in the project I am very biased but today was, wow!
Think we had about 800 visitors and the trails were perfect. Due to the amount of trails, they were quiet.
It's like visiting 10 centres & dh tracks in one.
There is something for everyone. I did about 9 runs on the uplift and mates pedalling the climb did 3-5 laps.
See you there soon. 🙂

How was the parking coping?

How many uplifts per day do you think?

I think they used an off site car park today as one was used up by trade stands.
The uplift road takes 10 mins

From the BBC website link CFH posted;

"What this centre must be hoping is that mountain biking is here to stay and not just a fashion."

Good to see that 30 odd years since it started the Beeb has it's finger on the pulse.....

Explains why the beeb doesn't pick up on MTB successes and show it on TV more

Rode it Wednesday, blue and red, very very good, not anything like it in uk, uplift will be 10 mins ish as mentioned red is black by some centres trail grading systems, but totally rideable, had I mentioned it ace 😆
May see me in back of filming too 😉 swerved the interview offer

The uplifts should get faster, new vans, new drivers and new roads will all get settled in soon.

What's the climb like if you pedal it?

25-45 mins of bridleway and single track

Hi
Anyone no if its possible to ride the trails on a 1x9 setup
I'm not super super fit
Just don't want to pushing up all the hills
Cheers

Only if you're on 27.5" wheels

What tyres!! 🙂

Hans dampf
I'm riding a identiti aka

Clips or flats?

Water bottle or Camelbak?

i'm far from fit but peddled up the climb reasonably comfortably on a 1x10.

How long is the longest trail
And how's it compare to degla/hopton

I rode all the blues and reds and there wasn't anything longer than 10ish minutes?

Can someone give more info on the grading please.

ie. are reds more like DH red's grades, at say Antur Stiniog, or more in line with Welsh trail centres?

My understanding is the blues are like FoD/Glentress blues, the reds and blacks like trail centre blacks and reds and the Pro line like a full on DH track

Happy to be corrected.

This video shows some of the blacks and they don't look as bad as I was expecting...

blues were easy, the reds were pretty easy, (even though I fell off). Didn't get to the blacks. TBH I don't really see it as a DH location, I was on my DH bike and wished I have my covert. If I had got to the blacks it might have been different. A couple of the lads I was with rode the blacks on their 130 and 150mm bikes and said they felt that they had the right bikes.

Thanks very much Bushwhacked. A good summary of what to expect. I'll be taking my dual ply's then and a FF lid - "Rim Dinger" and others look pretty rocky!
Looks fantastic! As does the weather forecast for this week 🙂

Cool vid
Wander what Itl be like on me hardtail

Love that vid. Looks good, I need to go. All of those should be good on a hardtail.

Looks like a good mixture of different types of lines. 🙂

I'll go a few months after opening. Otherwise will be chocka. Maybe when it is sleeting.

I got 10 runs in yesterday, probably could have done 11 without a puncture.

The blues are stupidly fast and flowing, with willy waver being the best imo. The reds are really good with some nice features, nice change to see some drops and jumps thrown into them, the blacks are more natural feeling again with even bigger drops and jumps, that step down/road gap is a monster. I was on a stumpy evo and apart from wanting dual ply tyres (going too fast for 18stone) i didn't feel under biked at all.

No idea who thinks this is beyond south wales stuff, some of the blacks felt like stuff at Smilog and Afan masts etc.. which is good.

Uplifts did and will get quicker, but its not an issue as hardly waited and was a bit of a break after the runs, sixtapod onto willy waver is over 2 miles long.

Amazing place, they done a superb job.

Rideable on a fully rigid (fat front)?

yes, but why would you want to?

Sound good.. Will have to arrange to get a weekend down there..

Was told today that there was over 900 visitors and not one of the trails were busy.
There was a 6yr old boy and a 56 year old lady riding the easyiest blues.
My 160mm bike was more than enough for everything I ride. I wouldn't hit the pro lines on any kind of bike tho.

Going tomorrow 🙂 is it £5 to ride +'parking?

The 6 year old, kian, rode both reds as well. 🙂

Free parking,£5 to ride.

Did a 400 mile round trip there today.Epic.

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Whoever asked the hard tail question, above is your answer.

Was me
How you find it?

Looks the shiz from that film, can't wait to visit!

I think that's got 40th birthday weekend written all over it.

Raffo: Wouldn't do it on anything else!

Skipping the arse end about on the blue runs was immense!

Think my Alpine will get a run out down there soon.

How big are the drops
Not sure the name of the trail I have in mind
It's on the video in this post
Did you hit all the routes blue,red,etc

MBUK lads were riding a Surly Fatbike yesterday said it was fun, Doddy didn't like it though

Did anyone camp nearby? if so where etc.

I'm local and have been struggling to think of a decent camping spot near by, this might be worth a try, Abardare's a bit lively of a night out, I'd be tempted to get beers from Asda on the way to the site

http://www.darevalleycountrypark.co.uk/index.php/accomodation

Or head North towards Breacon and the Beacons, plenty up there, probably about the same distance

yes, but why would you want to?

It's my only bike :/

 

Doable on a 4 x 9 penny farthing 24er running one flat and a clipless?

does the uplift work on a weekday as well? Im assuming the place is open on a weekday?!

does the uplift work on a weekday as well? Im assuming the place is open on a weekday?!

http://www.bikeparkwales.com/uplift

Does look great from that vid, and praise the lord, not covered in kitty litter!

Anyone been down that Proline with a 7 Month Old on the back? Pook?

Can't wait. I'm booked in on the uplift middle of sept. just starting physio on my wrist after big off 8wk ago however and I will be going down the day after a stag night in bath. So I'm gona take it easy. Just hope my wrist holds up. Didn't last 5 min at lee quarry last week with a 661 brace. Fingers crossed

Just back from BPW, having made a late call last night to do a 400 mile round trip

It's awesome fun, even though I had to ride to the top - you can still link enough of the trails together.

More later once I've had dinner

Just got back and buzzing but also very knackered. Really good day out with some mates on bikes.

[u]The good points:[/u]

Loads of trails of varying ability and style - some tight singletrack which feels quite natural to some bermy swoopy stuff - something for everything. The trails are definitely harder than your average graded trails - except the blacks which I expected a bit more from - except for Half cut which had us all on our arses!

Loads of people there but didn't feel like I saw anyone when out on the trails.

There were some real challenges on the trails which I look forward to spending time on in the future.

Enough for a days riding - the variety of trails made it great to mix it up - with us splitting up so some could ride blacks while others rode blues or reds and still meeting back down the bottom at a similar time.

[u]The bad points / points for improvement[/u]

The slow uplift turnaround killed the vibe for me - spent far too long waiting for the uplift or waiting for the uplift to set off - we managed 7 uplifts today (we missed one). At one point it was 3 runs in 2 hours. We worked out that if we had paid per run it would have cost us £33 versus £30 upfront (including £5 entry). Mainly down to the drivers checkign everything too much and I'm sure they'll get this sorted in time.

They could do with another climb on the north side (right hand side/otherside to the other climb) of the site as if I went back I'd either want to session the blacks or ride it like a trail centre but having one climb puts me off as I'm not sure I could keep doing it again and again. Another climb to mix it up would be nice to see and then I'd probably XC it. At the moment the slow uplift means I'd either ride to the top and back down a couple of times and then maybe an uplift or two or I'd take the uplift - pay for a trip to the top then session different sections on the way down to make the most of the one uplift.

Some signs next to the big features would be nice to warn first timers as I saw a few people (inc me and my mates) hit some stuff which wasn't how we expected - namely the gap jump on Enter the dragon which looked like a table but wasn't. I'd normally take it easy but with the slow uplift it made us want to hoon it down to see if we could get the bus as quick as possible.

On the whole it's got some great trails, a load of potential for the future and I can't wait to get back to ride it again. Big respect to the team up there as I can see this being a major destination for the future. Will be interesting to ride in the wet.

Oh, and another thing - they ran out of ketchup!!! 😉

How is the ride to the top. Is it a nasty winch or a spinny twisty singletrack ride?

I'm thinking about going for a day and riding up.

Apparently the ride to the top is OK, but loads of people were taking the road. My mate rode up and managed to do 2 runs in the same time we did 2 runs on the uplift. He said the road took 30mins but the climb took 40mins but was tougher.

My quickest ride to the top on the fire road took me 35 minutes.
I did it 4 times,maybe could have squeezed 2 more in.
It's pretty heavy at times.

Loads of folk at the trailhead but no-one overtook me and i overtook no-one! Wasn't like Cannock where everyones barging everyone!

I loved it.

Was there today and its a great place and will be evan better once you get to know the trails.
Took 30 minutes to ride up the road and I'd say it was Ok, did it 3 times Just spinning the granny.
Think the single track route would take to much out of you.
Blues are super fast and flow really good,
Reds are a bit more tech tighter singletrack.
Rode a little black section that was tricky.
Sixtapod.

Looks ace...definitely one to add to the lot of must ride spots.

The official videos have been good...the team seem dedicated and have out a lot of time / money and thought into it.

I too enjoyed not catching, and not being caught by people - even though the car park was busy the trails felt quiet all day.

People were all friendly and chatty on the climb which helped, and the locals who'd been up there all weekend were a good source of information.

[u]Bits that would make it better (and aren't the fault of the owners!)[/u]

DH riders pushing up the trails - not cool when you are coming in hot and are confronted by someone in PJ's and a behemoth walking up the blue trail

People stopping on the 'line' mid trail to wait for a mate

[u]Everything else was great IMO[/u]

The food at the cafe was great, quick service too when I went in at 2ish.

I took a 120mm FS, I don't think I'd have needed it on the blues, but I wouldn't want to do some of the rockier bits of Rim Dinger on a hard tail!

I'd like to have got to a black trail, but the combination of my brake pads wearing out on the previous run & "just one more run" syndrome would probably have left in Cardiff A&E

I've only got the dh bike at the moment and can't get booked on the uplift. Do any of the trails warrant a dh bike and if so, would it be agony on the road climb?

You won't be riding up n a dh bike! It's not a gentle climb at all. Don't need a dh bike except for one of the blacks and bits of that would be hard work on a dh bike. Not much left of the old dragon track either.

Good day on Saturday.... Did five runs and was prett knackered. Could have done another maybe. Hopefully they bring in a trail centre style loop as its all quite straight up and down so you get bored of the same up. Think ill try and book an uplift as it is such a gravity based spot.

Think my favourite was the furthest on the left red. Good mix of single track and steep stuff

Well done to the team.

Yeah,that red on the far left (wibblywobbly) was awesome, including Rim Dinger which really is a rim dinger. Funniest moment was chatting to Anna after she had to deal with someone moaning he'd punctured on Rim Dinger - there was a certain irony to his complaint.

Wow. I really enjoyed that. First ride out for me in a very long time after breaking my back, so very out of shape and carrying more weight than normal - neither of these things presented a problem cycling up the fire road. I took my two sons who also thoroughly enjoyed (one of them on a non disc brake bike). I've heard the Aberdare MTB have given a lot of their time volunteering when it was built and I'd like to give a big thank you to them and to the team for creating such a fantastic site. The other thing to note is that there was a very friendly atmosphere there, from the guy that warned us about the speed of the runs when we were leaving the car park to the couple who stopped to check that my lad was ok when he (inevitably) came off. What a great community of people mountain bikers are.
As a (mostly) mincer who prefers XC natural trails, I loved it. I've missed "Penhydd" at Afan and I thought that the blue trails recreated the "rollercoaster" feel that Afan used to have - but much faster and quite skitty on the gravel on dry trails (and mud tyres....). Superb job though. It was packed (car park and reception building) but the trails felt quiet. We found it a little daunting at the start - lots of portly gents with full body armour, neck braces etc and it's a little disconcerting signing a waiver and riding past a helipad on the way up - wondered what I was letting myself in for (or more importantly, what I was leading my lads into), but needn't have worried.
I've you've not been yet, you're in for a treat. I thought it was different and "better" than Afan - faster and quieter. It'll be even better as it matures and looks less man made.
A big thank you to all involved. After a summer of paying to get into various attractions, £5 seems ludicrously cheap for such fun and the food smelt delicious too (going to try that next time).
Finally, if you've got a towbar mounted bike carrier, make extra sure that it's firmly fixed in place because the drive out of the carpark is quite bumpy and it gets shaken around quite a lot.

^^^Exactly ^^^

Good review tinners, I was there again today. Good day riding and as mentioned, great atmosphere at cafe and car parks.

Nice to see that all their hard work appears to have paid off.

I wonder will it inspire more places like it in the uk?

It really is brilliant. Great buzz around the place. I enjoyed dai hard very much.
The blue is very much trail centre grading, but I like how its very suitable for beginners.
It's early days, but they really need to do something about the food 😐 maybe send the catering manager to the drop off to see how its done?

Thank you Tinners as the founder of Aberdare MTB I am very proud of what we volunteers have acheived of course there were professional trail building teams involved Sean and Rowan plus their employees but the sheer amount of hours put in by some members of our group is truly amazing.

Remember this is dream of 2 couples, Martin and Anna, Rowan and Liz without their ability to finance and attract grants and fund matching and ultimately corporate input this project would never have happened

I hope if you do come to Bike Park Wales please look out for the Aberdare MTB guys we are a really friendly bunch

Thanks again Tinners 😀

Friend of mine has a 'which bike to take' dilemma.
Gethin used to be best for DH bikes back in the day, in folks opinion with the Bikepark, is a 160mm type bike better to take than a dh bike?

That video was great! i'm off to Afan in October and this place looks superb.

Is it easy to find?

Gethin used to be best for DH bikes back in the day, in folks opinion with the Bikepark, is a 160mm type bike better to take than a dh bike?

Is it easy to find?
Yep. J32 off the M4, head north up the A470 and it's just off a roundabout. Signposted Gethin woods.

Hmmmmm I was going to go there in November, when I am down that way, but it sounds like they have taken it too far away from the original DH and basically turned it into another Afan. There doesn't appear to be too much in the way of steep, technical riding.

Surely they would have been better off creating one or two pure DH tracks to go alongside the more xc-style trails in order to appeal to everyone.

I only have a 180mm Morewood Kalula (other than my road bike) and tend to prefer riding DH tracks.

Oh, and what is it with people standing in the middle of the trail? Every video clip I have seen has this and is another factor putting me off going there.

One other thing: The tunnel. Is it me or is that exposed far edge of the tunnel entrance right on the line out of the berm and a recipe for disaster?

If I have misinterpreted anything I have seen, then I apologise. Videos can be a little misleading.