[Closed] best road wheelset for 1k?

Renolds assault
Chris kings or dt Swiss built on h son achetype from strada
soul wheels
or strada rail

in my opinion 🙂

Hmmm.

Climbing wheels won't actually make much difference going uphill, and aero wheels get blown about when it's windy.

I'd spend half that money and buy some that look nice.

humm moving from 2000g aksiums + wire bead tyres
to 1400g hand builts and decent tyres is a pretty much night and day difference when climbing (by feel, no idea if im actually faster)

[url= http://www.wheelsfar.com/20mm-tubular-wheels940g-30g-p-232.html ]940g[/url], plus plenty of change.

latest Dura Ace C24 running tubeless.

Archetypes are strong but not that light. I run them on the commuter.

No recommendation I'm afraid but I'd be interested to know the benefits of deeper section rims vs lighter weight rims. I've read some manufacturer data but would be interesting to see some independent data say over a 100km route with a 1000m climb.

jesus njee those are cheep 🙂 a feel a new set of these is my next purchase:
http://www.wheelsfar.com/new-38mm-clincher-wheels1250g-30g-p-295.html

No recommendation I'm afraid but I'd be interested to know the benefits of deeper section rims vs lighter weight rims. I've read some manufacturer data but would be interesting to see some independent data say over a 100km route with a 1000m climb.

There are various sources to help out, but real world testing is a bit difficult. My own opinion is that 'lightweight wheels' don't help in climbing as much as people think, and that deep section wheels don't help on the flat as much as people think.

I suspect that if you rode 100km with 1000m climb 10 times, then rode it with lightweight wheels or deep sections, the time differences between the different types of wheels would be the same as the difference between the fastest and slowest runs of the first 10.

I upgraded from Mavic Ksyrium Elite to Ksyrium SLR earlier this year, got them for £980 at Winstanley Bikes. Wish I'd done it sooner, I'd thought my frame was flexy when I stamped, it wasnt, it was the wheels (and I liked those wheels a lot), best upgrade ever. Look nice and stealthy too and the breaking power is tremendous.

Aero:
http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/news/107-50mm-carbon-alloy-clinchers-click-here

Non-aero:
http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/news/108-new-race24

jesus njee those are cheep a feel a new set of these is my next purchase

Mmm, agreed. Tubs or clinchers though! Tempted by some 1140g 38mm tubs!

I upgraded from Mavic Ksyrium Elite to Ksyrium SLR earlier this year, got them for £980 at Winstanley Bikes. Wish I'd done it sooner, I'd thought my frame was flexy when I stamped, it wasnt, it was the wheels

Climbing wheels won't actually make much difference going uphill, and aero wheels get blown about when it's windy.

I'd spend half that money and buy some that look nice.

although it causes the chain to rub the front derailleur on mine sometimes

Could be chainrings too. S-Works ones used to flex like a bastard.

Interesting, I have the same wheels and that happens with my bike (Cannondale Synapse Hi-Mod).

Its definately the wheels.....had both sets on my old frame, a Cannondale Six and now on the Super Six Hi-Mod. I actually think the upgrade in wheels has had as much impact as the frame, and the frame is a belter.

Could be chainrings too. S-Works ones used to flex like a bastard.

I actually think the upgrade in wheels has had as much impact as the frame, and the frame is a belter.

Have a peek at Cycling Plus this month - it's got a group test of wheels up to £1000. IIRC some Fulcrums won.

Hope Pro3 3.0 Carbon clincher? http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=106602

Surely for a grand you could get climbing wheels and some deep section jobbies. I suspect if you are asking this sort of question your probably not going to be noticing the difference between a £500 and £1000 set of wheels anyway.

Surely the question is...

Why are you spending (or prepared to spend) £1,000! on wheels when you dont know if you want climbing wheels or aero wheels???

[beaten to it by ajc]

I upgraded from Mavic Ksyrium Elite to Ksyrium SLR earlier this year, got them for £980 at Winstanley Bikes. Wish I'd done it sooner, I'd thought my frame was flexy when I stamped, it wasnt, it was the wheels (and I liked those wheels a lot), best upgrade ever. Look nice and stealthy too and the breaking power is tremendous.

I've used both and couldn't tell much difference. It must be because I'm slow and weak. Never mind.

Edit: Actually I lied - inadvertently - I've used SLs and SLRs, so maybe that explains it. Liked them both, but not impressed by the built-in obsolescence.

I was 1'22" faster on our hilly 10TT course on a £400 of RS80 C24 clinchers with Veloflex masters than I was on £1000 worth of Hope RS5.0s with tubs.
The Hopes roll nicely and there is a feel of them being special, and they certainly look well, but the numbers don't lie.

1'22 faster on a 10TT!! I think the numbers DO lie, or you got lost the previous time 🙄

Once? Proof enough for me....

Lolza, sorry one min and 22 seconds... Yes I didn't go via the next county...

You weren't 1 min 22 seconds faster over 10 miles because of wheels.

Well nothing else changed between one week and the next.

I've been looking at some extralight wheels
The hyperclinch all alloy and clincher 1190g pair

They are to replace my now 8 year old hyperclimb extralights which have been perfect just now rather worn out and I fancy going tubless

You just tried harder. The gains for change of wheels on a tt are fairly marginal. A pointy hat or skin suit have a larger effect. If you had the same result with 5 attempts on each wheel that would be a different matter.

I knew you meant 1min22, thats ludicrous, unless your first time included a stop for a fag break.

Honestly, TT times vary weekly depending on many things, least of all the bike. Just ask the regulars, on a good day the whole field can be 2-3% faster just cos of the weather.

it's aero over-shoes where the real gains are.

i'm not even kidding, a real scientist told me.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2010/04/biggest-bang-for-your-buck-in-time-trial-equipment/

The suggestion is that aero shoe covers are better than a disc wheel, but I've known that for a long time, and use oversocks when I'm late for the cake shop run...

Re: trying harder, possibly however for more stat goodness that time was a PB.
Two weeks ago I ran with the 50mm in the back due to holed tyre on the clincher and time was 30s slower, this week was with clinchers again and wind and I was 20s slower.
The course is a hilly one and I'm running in around 5th-6th place. Road bike, no aero, cap not helmet.
The wheels worked for me. I'm happy to leave it at that.

I've read good reviews and read good things on forums about cero AR30s from here:

[url= http://www.cycledivision.co.uk/product-info.php?pid133.html ]Linkle[/url]

£350 for 1400g wheels.

They're top of my list for an upgrade when I can afford them.

I was just interested that's all. Wheelsfar looks like its needs some time browsing.

They do look very good! Sorely tempted. They even do newer round profile 38mm/50mm rims.

The 38mm u shape wheelsfar clinchers are sweet 🙂

They are now hanging off my advanced sl

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Those look lovely. Did you weigh them?

Came in at 1270g 🙂

Did you get stung for import tax/duty?

<edit> PM if you prefer

want 🙂

Good weight too. No brainer IMO!

I paid £36 to parcelforce .. Not quite import tax as such the label said handling/presenting to customs etc. ??

I knew about the charge(from my mate who got a set )

£430 wheels delivered(come with blue pads/nice Ti skewers)

£36 parcelforce fee on collection..

I'm blown away with quality/service 🙂

That' looks like good value. Dud you consider their sprints instead?

Plus_one - they do look nice.
I was set on some Miche hubs on Archetypes rims but they are a bit lardy.
What do they ride like?
Any idea what the rider weight limit?

Never used tubs just don't fancy them ... Nice to change tyres with minimum fuss..

Not sure on rider weight limit just send them an email they got back to me pretty quick
With all my queries on 11 speed hub compatibility and shipping time etc.. I got sent pics of my wheels once
Built and tracking number..

It's my first set of full carbon wheels so only comparing to dura ace cl/ rs 80's and few
Sets of handbuilts.. I'll try to avoid the cliches of "added zip" roll really well etc..

They are quiet and quick is my review 🙂

Do you have a link to the ones you bought Plus one?

Thanks

[url= http://www.wheelsfar.com/new-38mm-clincher-wheels1250g-30g-p-295.html ]It's these[/url], unless I'm much mistaken.

I have a pair on order from farsports, Kyle has been great so far, looking forward to getting my hands on them, should be here next week, will post pics and reviews soon after.

Yup as njee20 posted ^^

Mine are ud matt finish-bitex hubs.. Black spokes/nipples

🙂

Giant P-SLR aero, if you want deep section. Fulcrum are also very nice and a little cheaper and heavier, as are Shimano C50s.

Double the price and 300g heavier than the Far Sports ones? Where do I sign up 😉

The alu brake surface is a bit of an advantage if you want to use the wheels in crap conditions, but the massive weight penalties just put me off alu/carbon clinchers.

Have you been going for the bitex hubs?

What are they like and are spares ok?

Urgh those wheelsfar er wheels look tempting! Feel like I could justify some deep section wheels....

My mate has bitex hubs and has put a lot of miles into them(no issue) I'm running bitex too and spin smooth and freehub has good pick up..

I done some research into bitex and they seem to make hubs for a lot of different company's who have there own branding put on(if the Internet is to be believed ? )

You can buy spares direct which seems to be the best way

This is rear hub wheelsfar use(bitex) un branded which I like for the stealth look 😉

http://www.bitexhubs.com/htm/products_detail.php?t=507f06a88e8b7&p=4d97f4b8b5f43

The front is A713SB

Now do I upset shimano folks by putting dura ace decals on wheels or wind up the enve boys with enve decals 😉

Take it the rear is 10 speed only?

They do 11 speed as well.

No it's an 11 speed hub it ships with spacer to run 9/10 speed

Spend half as much (or less) on something decent, loose weight and do hill sprint repeats, the difference will far outweigh 500 grams of vulnerable carbon.

That was my final "ooh but they don't......"

My wheels from farsports should be here tomo, I went for the 25mm wide U shaped with DT Swiss 240s 11 speed hubs. Came in at £605.

Oh and running them tubeless with Ultremo ZX tyres. I asked for no spoke holes so no need for rims strip.

Cant wait to try them out at the weekend.

Impressive they can do that!

Oh and running them tubeless with Ultremo ZX tyres

I did a fair bit of research into the topic of tubeless. The consensus seems to be you cannot use standard tyres but can use rim strips on standard rims. A couple of chaps at work are using the Ultremo ZX tubeless tyres on Zipp 303's / the chinese rims with spoke holes and rim strip with no issues.

So, I asked Farsports to manufacture the rims with no spoke holes (they do that for special orders) after I read about it on roadbikeforum.

Once installed, I will report back....

AFAIK ZX tubeless are meant to be compatible with any rim. I have them on Kysrium Elites (no spoke holes) and they inflated very easily with just a track pump with a perfect seal (didn't even need any sealant, although I put some in anyway for punctures), so you should be fine on a similar rim.

While all the road wheel experts are on one thread, I'm planning a new set of "best" wheels on a more prosaic budget:

H plus Son Archetypes (28/32) laced to Bikehubstore hubs with DT Rev spokes from Rose Versand.

What I can't decide is whether they'd be worth the extra cost and faff (£300ish vs £220) over a pair of Shimano Ultegra 6700 ones.

Any thoughts?

I dont use the archetype rim but I use the A23 rims which are the same width as the H plus rims and the extra width improved the comfort no end over the open pro rims. Not sure on the width of the ultegra rims?

Narrower. 19mm? I am quite curious to try wider rims.

probably 19mm, thats what the open pros are. Going from 23mm on open pro to 25mm on A23 was a massive improvemnt in ride quality (same bike - CAAD10)

Tubeless thing was more about the carbon clincher rim, I know some do it but Zipp for example specifically state not to run their wheels tubeless. Whether that's just because they can't be arsed to test & certify them or if they have genuine safety concerns over it is a different matter.

I think I'd always be worried when cornering hard at speed whether the tyre was going to stay on or not unless it had been designed for it. I can't believe say Shimano's CL vs TL C24 is just a marketing gimmick, if they felt there was a good enough reason to provide a more expensive but tubeless ready version I'm guessing there's a valid reason.

How to replace spokes on a rim with no spoke holes [url= http://forums.roadbikereview.com/wheels-tires/ebay-chinese-direct-carbon-wheel-thread-2-0-a-241788-107.html#post4219604 ]here[/url]

Wheels arrived in three days from shipping with no customs, so all in cost for 38mm u shaped clinchers with DT240s hubs was 585.
The wheels went tubeless with no issues, no rim tape needed as the rims have no spoke holes. I use the Ultremo ZX tubeless tyres and they were a bit tight, but eventually went on without levers.

I rode them this morning in windy Surrey hills and they were ok in the side wind, I didn't get blown about at all, the braking was excellent in the slightly damp conditions after the downpour last night. However, under hard braking they did squeal but that's not a major issue,

In terms of quality and service, I'm very pleased. Looking forward to riding them in dry and slightly less windy conditions.

Tubeless too !!! Excellent 🙂

Another of my riding buddies took the plunge and got 38mm tubular's .. He loves them and his are silly light ...

Mine are continuing to impress me .. I was bit tentative at first being Chinese carbon and hearing the horror stories .. Mine are regularly getting rattled up and down various potholed Scottish roads and are running sweet..

I really cannot fault mine, very pleased.

200 mile review - faultless. A big ride on saturday from kingston to Poole via some back roads and country lanes. Cant fault the wheels, brake really well, handle great in wind and im a convert to road tubeless.