No no no, I'm not interested in Chocolate Milk. I want a post turbo/ride MyProtien style thing.
I currently use nothing after short XC, freebie High5 recovery after longer races/hard rides, and MyProtien Soy Protien Isolate for protien after turbo's
I'm running out of Soy Protien Isolate and wondering if I should get more - I can get the carbs by eating wholefoods as I turbo at home, but it'd be nice to have a cheapish one drink fits all approach... Creatine add's about 6lbs to me to so I want avoid that as I'm a weak climber so need my watts/kg as high as possible...
What's wrong with chocolate milk?
The Torq stuff was always far better for me than SiS or others. Perhaps due to the other ingredients. Not cheap, but delicious in strawberry form.
Lager. It's isotonic.
You can also get protein lager from musclefood IIRC.
High5 recovery after [s]longer races/hard rides[/s] every ride longer or harder than a recovery bimble
Get it down as soon as you get back from a ride - fills the 60-90 mins between ride end and dinner whilst you faff/strava/shower/cook
Leffe (It's Belgian)
Milk is the best thing. Just milk.
Stick some low calorie diet whey powder in, but the milk is the best bit.
What's wrong with chocolate milk?
Milk, that's what's wrong with it!
I'm not lactose intolerant, I just can't stand the stuff or milk based drinks.
I want a post turbo/ride MyProtien style thing
Nesquik
Look at the science....the benefit of protein drinks is almost negligible for mere mortals (i.e. Non-elite athletes)
Bought some of that Yazoo crap from the caff recently after I ride as they were lacking actual milk. NO ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS they trumpet on the label. Right, but just as much natural sweetener (in the form of frankensugar) as Coke. Grim.
Look at the science....the benefit of protein drinks is almost negligible for mere mortals (i.e. Non-elite athletes)
So if you are a moderate amateur athlete, and you are stressing your body relative to your max in the same way as an elite athlete, why would it not help?
Why is that grim? You need carbs and protein. The sugars are the carbs bit.
Twodogs - Member
Look at the science....the benefit of protein drinks is almost negligible for mere mortals (i.e. Non-elite athletes)
Doesn't it help your immune system?
Choc milk fine for me, but I don't need "the best".
sure, but sweet milk... ughh. Just tastes wrong.Why is that grim? You need carbs and protein. The sugars are the carbs bit.
Look at the science....the benefit of protein drinks is almost negligible for mere mortals (i.e. Non-elite athletes)
This is not true. I notice a significant difference in recovery when using protein recovery drinks compared to not. Especially larger muscle groups (legs & back).
I use maxi-nutrition lean recovery at the moment, only because I used to work for them and have still got loads left. Otherwise would likely be looking at some high protein powder from myprotien or similar.
ure, but sweet milk... ughh. Just tastes wrong
Ah, got ya. I find the choc ones are better than banana/strawberry as there is a little bit of bitter to balance the sweet but obviously tastes vary.
I'm not lactose intolerant, I just can't stand the stuff or milk based drinks.
Soya Milk, Almond Milk, Coconut Milk?
Throw in a banana and some either milkshake mix / Horlicks. If you don't want it sweet add maltodextrin powder or oats. Wizz up in blender.
Torq recovery is good but it's expensive.
Why is that grim? You need carbs and protein. The sugars are the carbs bit.
sure, but sweet milk... ughh. Just tastes wrong.
You bought a sweet flavoured milk based drink and you're complaining it tastes sweet? Don't you just want "milk" in that case?
Bought some of that Yazoo crap from the caff recently after I ride as they were lacking actual milk.
How does a cafe function without having any milk? What are they putting in the tea?
Hmmm
Based on this and calorie content is seems the Soy Protien Isolate stays. Its cheap too.
Plain milk and real food?
kimbers - Member
http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/energy-recovery-drink/erdinger-alkoholfrei-beer
I've tried that.
Tastes like soap. 🙁
Nothing gets by you does it! 😆Don't you just want "milk" in that case?
Yazoo probably. They did have fruit though, which was good (and unexpected!)How does a cafe function without having any milk? What are they putting in the tea?
I don't mind the Erdinger Alcohol Free (blue label) one, just not the white one, that doesn't work at all.
Personally, i use the SiS Rego Recovery as they are the DFS of sports supplements and always on sale straight after ride, then if it has been a big day on the bike, i have one of these yoghurts before bed so have 20g of protein digesting as i sleep (hopefully)
kimbers - Member
> http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/energy-recovery-drink/erdinger-alkoholfrei-beer
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I've tried that.
Tastes like soap.
I like. Had a bottle yesterday after over indulging on Saturday night. IMV by far the best of the alcohol free beers - does have something of a wheatbeer taste.
Presumably the 'recovery drink bit' is just Erdinger marketing and any other alcohol free beer would be just as good.
Don't you just want "milk" in that case?
Nothing gets by you does it!
read OP not just replies. D'oh.
I'm getting what I feel are excellent results from the [url= https://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/hard-gainer-extreme/10615587.html ]MP hard gainer extreme[/url] (ooh er).
Fills me up more than normal protein shakes and I genuinely feel in better shape throughout the next session. I also no longer get dehydrated headache things within an hour of finishing. Me reckons the carbs/sugars are hitting me in a more effective way.
Nana, Honey, MyProtein chocolate brownie whey powder. I swear, half the time I exercise it's only so i can justify drinking that.
There was a proper scientist type chap on R4 talking about them last week and his research* had shown that the vast majority of people get more than enough protein in their daily diet....even those doing a lot of exercise. Taking more than you need just makes you fat (I didn't follow why).
He succinctly and calmly debunked the authentic frontier gibberish being claimed by some woman who was flogging "female specific protein drinks".
cynic-al - MemberDoesn't it help your immune system?
I have no idea, but I think the point is most of us get more than enough of everything we need from food.
* I can't speak for the veracity of his findings but he had a proper sciency sounding job ..not a "nutritionist"
Really like the Torq recovery stuff but gets expensive using after every session.
I keep it for when my rides finish away from home as it's easy to mix in a shaker with water.
If I'm at home it's the cheaper unflavoured MyProtein Whey Isolate with a banana and milk in the blender.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5qYndwd1nyvyFMSynmypy8Z/will-protein-supplements-help-me-put-on-more-muscle ]or this.....[/url]
So kindly clarify for me, if I get everything i need from real food, why is it that I consume ~50,000kcal of recovery drink every year and still weigh <60kg?
Also if you wouldn't mind, let me know what alternatives I can make in ~30s that are absorbed as quickly as a specialist recovery drink.
No no no, I'm not interested in Chocolate Milk
I read on here that you're a marketing companies wet dream, and it's really true isn't it? 😉
whey protein & instant oats for me.
I spoke to a chap at SIS about this a few years back re turbo sessions and recovery, what to eat/drink immediately after. He said that whey protein and some carbs (I just use oats in the blender) was good but not to mix it with milk, with water it's absorbed faster. Something to do with the way the body processes milk protein that's different to whey. Milk was good in the evenings as an overnight source of protein for continued recovery.
Twodogs, your links are answering a totally different question to that asked by the OP.
I mix together the following for after a hard training session:
500ml of almond milk
40g of beef protein (from MyProtein)
20g of dextrose
1 banana
1 scoop of Neals Yard Cocoa Complex.
Works very well for me, and tastes reasonable too.
Twodogs, your links are answering a totally different question to that asked by the OP
Not really....he asked what the best one was....and the answer is that they're all equal (i.e. snakeoil)
So kindly clarify for me, if I get everything i need from real food, why is it that I consume ~50,000kcal of recovery drink every year and still weigh <60kg?Also if you wouldn't mind, let me know what alternatives I can make in ~30s that are absorbed as quickly as a specialist recovery drink.
I'd suggest doing some reading....but I think the point is, you don't need any additional protein that you can prepare in 30s. Just eat your dinner....else, like vitamin supplements, you're just literally, peeing money away.
I've encountered this argument before.
Last time I worked it out I didn't eat enough protein (based on 0.8-1.0 grams per KG of body weight. Reference [url= https://authoritynutrition.com/how-much-protein-per-day/ ]HERE[/url]) on a general day - and I considered myself to have a reasonable diet.
As an 83 kg chap I should eat between 66 and 83 grams of protein to build/maintain muscle and aid recovery. I don't (didn't).
I suspect very few of us actually do unless you deliberately set out to increase the protein content of your diet.
I deliberately set out to increase the protein content of my diet by using a Whey Protein product from MyProtein.com.
Therefore; NOT snake-oil but dietary supplement 8)
and the answer is that they're all equal (i.e. snakeoil)
My experience suggests that it is not snake-oil, but that it can speed recovery. But it is only worth it if you are training to a programme and pushign yourself hard. There's clearly no point for ad-hoc riding.
I have found SiS to be no better than simple carbs after a ride - e.g. a fizzy drink, but Torq is somewhat better still, as is maltodextrin (which is cheaper than even coke).
The carb intake immediately after riding seems to have the most scientific evidence, and seems to me to be the most significant bit.


