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gotta say that is an impressive pile of bearings
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Best get them off yer mum's kitchen floor before they get hoovered up though.
[b]Chelsea 7-0 Stoke.[/b]
Chelsea put seven goals past Stoke, with no reply, in an emphatic win which will surely send out an ominous message to their title rivals Manchester United.
5spot yet again I am forced to ask when I said the cage will give protection from water or dirt. What I in fact said was that water or dirt would first have to get past the cage and that dirt would find it harder to sit up against the actual ball bearings as a result of this.
Rust will damage the bearings we all agree and when it does the bearings will at first have play and then collapse yes? The closer tolerances of the performance bearings mean that this play will be less in proportion to the budget bearings with the same amount of ware and the looser tolerance of budget bearings will cause them to fail much sooner.
As soon as play occurs and because of the rust the actual bearings and races will be damaged. Is all chromium steel the same quality material 5 spot?
As for you minqe chick, the whole point of rubber seals is to be able to remove them. You do not have to damage the seals to remove them unless you have hands like shovels and all the skill and dexterity of an elephant.
The reason people are better buying bearing from someone who knows what they are doing is to avoid the seals being damaged and getting the old grease removed and the right grease for the right application installed.
As for blagged a Kona full sus it has not yet arrived and I paid for it anyway. I will be using the Kona full sus to do a demonstration DVD to show people how to service their Kona's. Further more! Madam what is better that the frame goes to waste or that an actual rider gets use of it?
Lastly northfullofwind. Don't get it what on earht are you trying to say
TV
Why do you think they call them Idiot Boxes?
5spot yet again I am forced to ask when I said the cage will give protection from water or dirt. What I in fact said was that water or dirt would first have to get past the cage and that dirt would find it harder to sit up against the actual ball bearings as a result of this.
AAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!
TV
Why do you think they call them Idiot Boxes?
What the hell are you on about now? Jeezus - you are actually mental.
markd
bearings sparky I would think the title of the thread would have given you a hint
I will be using the Kona full sus to do a demonstration DVD to show people how to service their Kona's.
You've already got a dodgy Kona frame for doing vids with though, remember??!
(No apostrophe in Konas)
Kaesae wrote
I find people who criticise and judge other harshly to be nothing but complete and utter bankers...... every gutter snipe, @ss wipe, wonna be expert that cmes along.
When you getting your bonus?
5spot yet again I am forced to ask when I said the cage will give protection from water or dirt.
Photo of a caged bearing, the surface of the actual balls is covered to a large extent by the cage and of course the races. [b]For water or dirt to get at the balls it has to get past or through the cage[/b].
There. I even put it in bold for you.
On another note, I still don't know if kaesae is a genius, committing what can only be described as the most elaborate troll of all time, or if he is actually certifiably insane.
Well, in another thread, I remember Kesae saying that he'd had some quite debilitating health problems, and that his mental condition had been affected. Maybe people should consider this, and not be quite so mocking. I don't think he's a person who means others malice, and seems to want to be part of the STW community. Why not be a little less antagonistic towards him?
Give the guy a break. There's been quite a bit of nastiness towards him. I think it's out of order.
I know several people who have had mental problems, it didn't mean they suddenly got a license to be a massive douche.
kaesae, any reason why all your responses have to include personal abuse? I can and do remove and reuse bearing seals on old, worn and contaminated where I am just trying to eke a little etra life out of it. I wouldnt do it to a new bearing.
From
http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=help#five
Q: Should I remove the shields or seals from my bearings?
A: If your Front bearing has two rubber seals you should not remove them
Q: How do I remove my shields or seals?
A: ...In most cases the rubber cannot be re-used.
So as that lunatic Pierre and I asked, are you replacing your bearing seals?
And yes you did pay for the frame, offering a paltry 25 quid if I recall correctly to ensure you gazumped any of the other forum members who asked for it. Given you've only ever posted on STW to defend the provenance of the frames you sell on ebay, to plug your bearing business and to troll I didnt think you getting that frame followed any karma or natural justice.
Five pages! Still hasn't answered any of my questions yet either. I was all for giving him the benefit of doubt and had a giggle at some of his replies but my word, this guy is a jerk of tremendous proportions.
Not a very good advert for Katec at all. Thought he could learn something from some of these replies but no, he knows it all already!
I used to be a MX race technician for Kawasaki and Suzuki here and abroad and if there are any places that bearings get a harder work out, then I have yet to find it. They go through such loads from every angle, sand, mud, jet wash etc.
A bike was stripped down after every meeting and inspected and parts replaced when needed or not. I have seen a few bearings broken etc so know a little about what I talk about but apparently after 20 years of doing it, I know nothing according to this idiot!
1. Curly68
Ever seen a MX bike rider with water up to their ears? I once watched my mate pedal out into the ocean until the water was up to his chin. Laughed so hard I had stains on my pants, until I got home that is. Tell me! what would happen to a modern combustion engine if it was say under water and do they make underwater combustion engines? GENIUS!!!
Bottom of page 4 this thread exhibit A
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/bearing-bearings-bearings-who-thinks-they-know-the-score/page/4
yet again MR barns I thank you for the photos.
You know your sh1t curly68 I rest my case!
kaesae - Member...my mate
Don't believe you.
mr_mills
Not only am I colourful a superb bike mechanic and an expert at getting the job done. I also have loads of stuff to give away, like the bolts and chain device and gear cable I forked out earlier, as well as three hours of free work.
kaesae - I used to suspect that you were an idiot, thank you for confirming my suspicion.
kaesae - Membermr_mills
Not only am I colourful a superb bike mechanic and an expert at getting the job done. I also have loads of stuff to give away, like the bolts and chain device and gear cable I forked out earlier, as well as three hours of free work.
What the smeg has that got to do with ANYTHING?!
You're weird.
So you still can't answer my questions?
How do you remove the seals without damaging them? Do you fit new seals once you have filled with your grease?
Just want ANSWERS not some numpty condecending response.
kaesaeTell me! what would happen to a modern combustion engine if it was say under water and do they make underwater combustion engines? GENIUS!!!
What's that go to do with anything? Where on a combustion engine are ball bearings used?
Kaesae I'm just interested to know if you're findings are anecdotal or if you have hard proof backed up by facts on the properties and uses of different types of bearing? Also was you're research done independently or did you just use the internet and riders as a frame of reference?
It's a serious question and I'm not trolling, but most bearing manufacturers recommend you do not take the seals off in case you damage them, and they are not strictly removable items.
Have you're bearings been lab tested against those that aren't as good e.g. the max complement enduro bearings etc?
I look forward to your reply!
Jay
YES!!
C0ckhead has named me in a tag! Get in!!!
Jay - already asked that question.....internet research(oxymoron no?) and peoples opinion .....completely non research
Biscuit Powered - Member
kaesae
Tell me! what would happen to a modern combustion engine if it was say under water and do they make underwater combustion engines? GENIUS!!!
What's that go to do with anything? Where on a combustion engine are ball bearings used?
I hope he was referring to main bearings at each end of the crank, then you have bearings supporting clutch shaft, output shaft, in fact there are quite a few! And I have worked on engines that have been flooded Kaesae.
this thread is like picking at a scab. It has a horrible fascination.
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How old are you ? What qualifications do you have to tell us about bearings ?
[i]What qualifications do you have to tell us about bearings ? [/i]
Come on Terry, pay attention. That pile of bearings on the floor in the pics way back ^^
He's felt them all therefore he's an Expert and we must bow to his knowledge and wisdom.
Or we could just laugh at him for not having much of a life. You choose. 😉
wow after all this im glad my bike has zerk fittings 😉
firestarter - Memberwow after all this im glad my bike has zerk fittings
Yes but are you using the right sort of grease?
Only one genius on here can answer that....
Don't upset him too much.
Just a gentle turning of the key every now and again should be enough to get some more of the rambling madmans thoughts. 😀
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I'd love to follow this thread some more but I have to go and push a rusty old frayed gear cable through my scrotum.
the original 'cheap' bearings in my commencal have finally after 2.5 years given up the ghost and i need new
any chance of a freebie?
jasonm945
there is only one test, how long they last.
Curly68
I was expecting you geniuses to realize that working on motor bikes and working on mountain bikes is two different things. Saying bearing ware on motor bikes and mountain bikes is the same thing is just not true.
iain1775
email me well discuss it.
Holy cow, this thing is still going... well done bassspine, that xkcd frame came to mind when I wrote my long ranty answer.
Now, I'm a scientist first; I think if something is trustworthy then it is objectively verifiable and repeatable. This is why I completely distrust anecdotal evidence, especially from people trying to sell something. Ben Goldacre's excellent book "Bad Science" gives a great account of this that's accessible to anyone even with no knowledge of scientific principles.
I don't claim to be an expert. I'm pretty good at what I do, admittedly only by the testimonies of my customers, but if I'm wrong about something then I'd rather use it as a learning experience than dig in and personally attack my critics. But I would say I've got a modicum of common sense and am able to apply what learning and experience I have in a practical way to new problems.
...which is why I, and curly68 who clearly knows a lot about motocross bikes (whose technology has a heavy cross-over with mountain bikes), and cynic-al, and probably many others, are still waiting for something concrete, methodically explained, or even just vaguely intelligible, by way of an explanation why kaesae think he "knows the score" about bearings.
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Let me state my outrageous claims again. Full caged performance bearings with the original grease and the seals removed without damaging them, obviously munqechick. Then expensive water proof grease fitted then the seals refitted will outlast generic bearings or the standard industry bearings. They will also in my opinion outlast Enduro and Enduro max bearings as well as out perform them.
My evidence and the reason for making these idiotic claims. Simple INA and SKF and all other performance bearings are of superior quality to generic bearings. There performance and durability are second to none. To have these bearings altered to be specific to being used outdoors and in MTB applications is a good thing. I am arguing that they are the best bearings to be used in your bikes.
Those of you that listen will save money and time, you will also have a slight performance increase on your back ends action. Just like all the race teams that run them enjoy. Intense, Specialized, Giant to name but a few.
Those of you that simply cannot hear what I'm saying, the thought of you replacing your bearings all the time and running generic bearings in your bikes?
Keep up the good work, I do enjoy a laugh and there's nothing like self righteous stupidity to cheer me right up!
Evidence? the longest lasting best performing bearings in the world but they aren't any good for MTB pivot points?
As I have said and will no doubt say again.
GENIUS!!!
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Hold on... just checking something here, so you supply bearings to those race teams you mention?
I'm really surprised that people aren't buying your bearings & throwing them in the bin just to leave you negative feedback.
^ I laughed
New levels of silly.......you make superstar look like customer service kings .......
You still have not provided us with 1 single hard tried and tested fact - that is fact as - not your opinion/guess/assumption......
"you will also have a slight performance increase "
Wa **** Hooo.
I just love the fact the mods, while knowing this is a commerce thread, are leaving it for the pure comedy value.
Does Kaesae only post at weekends?
I'm guessing he's 13 years old..
OR
an unhinged STW regular using a different name to conduct binge drinking induced psychotic episodes of a weekend..