[Closed] Anyone used Orange bikes repaint service?

A friend did a while back - excellent service iirc. I think they give the frame a once over and replace bearings etc - you end up with a shiny new (looking) frame 🙂

My mate has his patriot redone, superb glossy sparkly grey. Very nice indeed.

a mates had 2 done now , both very good jobs .

Cheers all, just need to pick a colour now.

What colour is it at the moment ?

go into abike shop and look at the colour swatch...plenty to choose from ...

Out of intrest, how much do they charge ?

Why? There are plenty of powdercoaters within your region. Use Yell.

Explain what you want and how you want it doing - Circa £25-£35.

very good....we use them alot in the winter.looks like a new bike!

[i]Why? There are plenty of powdercoaters within your region. Use Yell.[/i]

Well for a start you know the quality of their work and if you don't it's easy to find an example

Aye ask to see a powdercoaters currently workload stacked up infront of you?

Ask them if they regularly spray motorbike frames etc.

I don't recall having any issues on the quality of mine. Binners can speak too.

So who do Orange use? A magical Powdercoater who only sprays folded-aluminum?

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When I had my Sub 5 done in red as a new option it was reckoned by orange that there were problems laquering over the decals on top of the colour. So there may be a chemical reason why Orange charge as much as they do if laquer is involved. (The dealer had to twist someones arm quite hard to get me the colour I wanted in 2003!)

how much do orange charge, out of interest?

200 quid plus a bit for postage...the job they do is brilliant though and they re-sticker it etc.anyone whos got it done has always been really happy

£200 is strong money.

However You'll be sure that the best folk are involved in the renovation.

Had a steel HT done in a 2pack finish with Argos a few years ago and that was circa £120 and in comparison would have been straightforward.

Any pics of renovated frames?

orange did a respray on my old patriot, did a cracking job, and it's a tough product as well

On eadvantage is if your frame still has it's warranty; Powder coating will invalidate it. Orange's service will bring your frame up like new.

a few of my pals have had it done, and not one had anythng but praise for the service and the workmanship.

It is as good as the original paint, plus frame inspection, new bearings, new graphics... I've had a few done, and the quality is top notch! Far better than paint I have had done from Argos both in terms of finish and especially durability...

If it does include bearings & graphics etc, then I dont think £200 is a lot. To post it off & get it back in the same nick as a new frame.
Do they do other makes ?

I suppose the Orange 5' only has one bearing though doesnt it... 😉

£200 for a £35 job? Your money. Powdercoats spray school/industrial units gates, motorbike frames, bike frames (yes they do) etc. Who do you think orange subcontract to?

All the gear.....

Point taken Hora, but through work I've sub-con'd plenty of work out to plenty of powder coaters & stove enamallers over the years, & trust me there are some right idiots out there. By nature of the work they do they dont pay a lot, & some oik on £7/hr really couldnt care less if you end up with 8hrs of scraping powder from bearing pivots of your £35 bargain re-paint.
Orange are charging over the top, of course they are, but if your getting a choice of any colour, frame stripped & prepped, bearing seats properly masked, then new bearings & graphics afterwards, with a top notch paint job guaranteed then to some folk thats money well spent. I'll bet bearings & graphics will push it up over the £100 mark on a £35 job. Also, a lot of enamallers dont carry every colour you can think of, so will expect you to accept what they happen to have or charge you for buying powder in for the job.
If you've found somewhere local to you that does a top job chuck their details up on here. I'm keen to get my FS done ready for spring.

My frame is not suspension so is £150. I have had frames powdercoated locally in the past and won't do so again, no end of issues so the cost is worth it for the piece of mind. Will do this in the spring. Thanks for all the comments. All the gear.... my money I can do what I like with it.

I haven't. Reread what I said above, ask them what they powdercoat- their breadth of normal customers/products and then TELL them what you want doing.

Your money but interview (takes 30secs) and brief and its the same outcome.

Its a mountain bike frame but hey as you say your money on a pricey single pivot.

Just thought i'd mention that Orange DO NOT sub-contract their powdercoating as they have their own plant on site (so in effect, yes, they do have their own magical powdercoater who only sprays folded aluminium), and as mentioned before, do a very good job. You can get it done cheaper elsewhere, but the results that i've seen have varied from good to appalling, not to mention blast damage to threads etc.

Hey, your money. If you ride anywhere with grit, flying stones etc then you will have a tatty paintjob at somepoint 8)

Hey Hora,

I don't have any expert knowledge in this field, but I did take my old Orange 5 frame to a local powdercoater who was recommended by others who'd had their frames done by him. If memory serves me right, the job cost about £60 and was absolutely beautiful. A matt black background sprinkled with holographic disco sparkles and a gloss laquer on top.

However, on getting the frame home I did discover that all my careful explanations of what should be masked had been pretty much ignored. The bearings, shock, headset and rear brake could only be refitted after hours of sanding. After about a week of riding, the lovely gloss laquer had dulled, and where near cables, gone completely. Finally, about 6 weeks after it had been treated the frame cracked at the seatpost / top tube interface. Now, I can't say that this was directly due to the powdercoating process as the frame was about 3 yrs old at the time. However, I have since been made aware that a lot of powdercoat ovens run at temperatures too high for heat treated aluminium bike frames, which can lead to a loss of strength at the welded joints.

As I say, I'm no expert (I work in a genetics lab), but having gone down the route of the local powdercoat firm, I wouldn't do it again. If I ever decide to get Josephine (my new Orange 5), repainted she'll be going back to Orange where I know she'll be properly cared for.

B. 🙂

Had my Sub3 repainted by Orange a couple of years ago, did a brilliant job...

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Just thought i'd mention that Orange DO NOT sub-contract their powdercoating as they have their own plant on site

Maybe they should, becasue £200 + post is a stupid price. Sorry but it is. But then Orange are always overpriced anyway.

It's clearly not a stupid price as there seems to be a good number of people taking them up on their service.

If they can charge £200 for it and people are willing to pay then good on them.

It was £150 for a full sus 2 years ago, then £175. The price might reflect the amount of work they have to put through the refinishers, along with their new frames. It doesn't dent the popularity of it.

There's a lot of slagging off of Orange (from Hora too, who would have thought that?) for charging for a service they don't have to offer. Which other manufacturers do this service? How much do they charge?

A lot of owners are glad they do, so why not?

Beagleboy...

Or you are tooo rad 😀

If you ride a mountain bike anywhere near the Peaks within weeks your paintwork will look shite. I am considering a bare finish next time. Might as bloody well. Same with my Fox forks 🙁

If you can afford Orange's prices for their bikes now, £200 is nothing in comparison.

My mate sprayed 2 of mine, and he did a top job. Helps he's a sprayer by trade.

Cost: £25 each, as he needed to buy-in the paint.

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If you can afford Orange's prices for their bikes now, £200 is nothing in comparison

Good point. Although in defence in a way the existing orange owners will feel like they are getting a 'new' frame for £200 I guess.

they dont sandblast the frames at orange,theyre dipped in acid which is less damaging to the frames...they dont do many of them because i think it interrupts what they normally do which is paint new bikes....having seen about 20 repainted bikes thru the shop i think its well worth the 200 nicker...ive seen jobs done locally and theyve all had various levels of flaws....

but its your choice!

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Hey Orange, I am one of your dealers and want you to notice that I am posting on the internet about how much I love you!

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Kaesae to the thread, please! kaesae to the thread.

I am always one to try and get a job done the cheapest but I don't think that's too bad really. You're getting it painted by the people who did it in the first place, a peace of mind check of the frame, new bearings, all the paintwork done as the factory original finish and new bearings etc. Yes it's more money than you could get those things done separately but it's all in one go and sorted properly with no hassle.

I've just had a thought - if you used this service then the resale value of the frame will surely be higher - this would probably make up that extra cost and maybe make it easier to sell anyway.

If specialized did this sort of service I'd definatley use it for my pitch if a few years down the line it needed it.

The resale value won't change - anybody who's powder coated their Orange frame recently could claim Orange did it themselves...

i dont think orange would waste time reading this tosh hora....

Seems, well worth the £200 to me. Most manufacturers wouldn't do such a service because they would rather you bought a new frame/bike.

The service appears top notch, your local powder coater is a gamble that could lead to hours of your own time being spent trying to save threads and bearing surfaces. If you don't want any of this headache and want to know that your bike will come back spot on, £200 isn't a lot of money. It's not as if orange have advertised it as the cheapest way to do it.

I've read a lot of "orange are to expensive" on here. Remember no one is forcing you to buy anything.

The resale value won't change - anybody who's powder coated their Orange frame recently could claim Orange did it themselves...

Of course it will. If you have a receipt for the work done from Orange it'll attract way more bids on eBay and gives a potential buyer peace of mind their expensive purchase hasn't been baked to cracking point by some back street sprayer. After some reports on here I wouldnt touch with a bargepole any expensive alloy frame which had been powdercoated by anyone other than the original manufacturer.
But if you lie that it was done by Orange and you find someone gullible enough to believe you without proof then I suppose you're right.
At least we've learnt not to buy stuff off you now.

Rob, yes you'd make more money on resale, but never £200+ more.

It's clearly not a stupid price as there seems to be a good number of people taking them up on their service.

A fool and their money etc.... 😉

Rob, yes you'd make more money on resale, but never £200+ more.

You would if it was a choice between £200 or nothing.

1)
WiseBuyer "Hello has the bike been powder coated"
Foolish Seller "Yes it was a lovely job done by my local firm who do gates"
WiseBuyer " Oh thanks, I'm not interested"
Foolish seller "Oh woe is me I cannot even sell my frame I wish I had just sold it scruffy, I thought the 25 quid I paid and four hours I spent cleaning powder coat out of the threads and bearing surfaces would make me some extra money, now no-one wants to buy my frame"

2)
WiseBuyer "Hello has the bike been powder coated"
Smart Seller "Yes it was a lovely job done by Orange, and I have a receipt to prove it"
WiseBuyer " Oh thanks, I'm interested, lets dance"

You wouldn't have to make £200 more, maybe only £50-100 to cover the difference between doing all those things yourself and letting Orange do it. If you had to rely on shops doing all the work there might be less of a difference.
There's a good place in Bingley which is supposed to do top notch powdercoating, I think its £50, let's assume that includes a lacquer coat. Say the decals cost £15 to print as per the originals and the paintshop charges £5 to put them on before the lacquer. That's £70 so far. Bearing replacements done at a shop - never had it done myself but would £40 Inc labour be about right? £110. Maybe you could take the frame to Orange to inspect it for damage and they charged you £20 to do a full check. That's £130 in total, but you don't get the assurance that the guarantee is still valid and theres a lot of ferrying round to do, maybe £15 in petrol (I live near the Orange factory so that's reasonable).
I know those prices aren't going to be accurate but I've already spent £150+ and had the added hassle of picking the frame up and taking it to 3 places to get the job done. Many more opportunities for problems.
I reckon I could get the £50 back on resale and I reckon getting the whole job done in one go with the added warranty continuation is well worth the extra even if I don't sell it.
I will probably never own an orange frame and I do agree they are very expensive for what they are and that would put me off buying one but I reckon that's a good service.