Anyone ridden the Mojo Nicolai yet?

I have ridden several trendy long slack bikes recently but figures are very misleading when it comes to the Geometron. Some bikes with a poor setup or lack of cohesive geometry felt longer than my longest Geometron. It's not like I think super long and slack for the sake of it, I think let's ride the bike and see how it feels ignoring the figures on paper. That's what is so bizarre about the Geometron, it just feels brilliant as the sum of its parts.

Not for everyone but worth trying before making up your mind purely based on facts and figures on paper. The Geometron does excel in extreme situations but for example I recently did Ben Macdui on it, a 7 hour epic up the second highest mountain in Britain. To get to the trail we rode 7 miles each way on tarmac, then had several plodding miles to the mountain itself. This was with monster truck tyres on, not once did I feel like I was on the wrong bike.

Seem to be quite a few for sale at the moment.......

For GeoMetron owners and avoiding rhe rumour thread which I’ll stay out of generally except for wild claims...

Mojo have suspension stock to supply current GeoMetrons in stock.
They will also continue to supply Fox product for GeoMetrons etc

They will not as you have gathered be the distributer or warranty provider.

I've been reading the conspiracy thread. There's an impressive amount of work going into all these imaginary scenarios given how little real information there is.

I was a bit gutted when I first saw the news. Firstly because what Mojo do and have become is a pretty impressive outfit and it's annoying that think that Fox would just ditch them to trim some fat to appease the shareholders, if indeed that's what happened. I hope they're not laying people off because I've been down that road more than once. It can't be easy to be made redundant in the middle of South Wales.

Secondly, what about me and my bike?!?! Part of the reason I felt comfortable spending so much money (it's the most expensive bike I've ever built by some margin) is that I know dealing with Mojo is a painless experience. Hopefully I can still tap into their advice and tuning knowledge even if I can't go to them for warranty issues. You say they're carrying on as a supplier under the Geometron brand so I imagine that won't be an issue.

At the minute we have a BOS situation. Been there, done that, was actively trying to avoid going there again! I hope whoever takes over isn't a cowboy outfit. Some distributors are a complete nightmare to work with.

I thinks its pretty far from a BOS situation. The top/aftermarket Fox kit is really durable. The scale of Fox should mean plenty of parts availability. Also I never owned any BOS kit but the impression I got was the distributors were completely out of their depth. You have Mojo who know the product inside outs and will do their best to help.

It is an inexplicable decision from Fox when you consider the quality of service and advice that was on offer. Unfortunately once you get the wrong people in charge at a corporation everything becomes about egos, bonuses and the next couple of years results.

If you are a GeoMetron customer (Sharkattack and any others) you will be looked after in the manner to which you hopefully were and would expect to be in the future after buying a bike of that nature.
The warranty's applicable to the bike and anything you bought would be dealt with by Mojo/GeoMetron bikes
Obviously that particularly applies if you bought a package from Mojo.

Mojo as a brand/company is not dead. GeoMetron is not at risk. Fox products will be available. New products will be developed.

Mojo as a brand will look to secure its (excellent) legacy and continue to provide excellent customer service and quality.

Update From Geometron Bikes just now. Good news, really looking forward to see what the do next!

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To add to Chainline's post I've just recieved this from Paul at Mojo.
This is a reply to a question about warantying a creaky CSU on my Geometron's fork.
So seems to me that I can give my fork back to Mojo and they'll sort it with the new distro.
Just the same as my LBS has done in the past with bikes I've bought from them that have had a creaky CSU.

Hi Stu, thanks for the kind words please note that GeoMetron Bikes Ltd is a completely separate company to Mojo Suspension Hoodoo Ltd and has no business links with Fox Factory inc.

It’s very much business as usual here! We aren’t going anywhere 😉 well apart from strength to strength!

The new Fox distributor will be announced shortly and they will cover all Fox warranties going forward! Don’t panic it will all be back to normal very soon.

P.S. please re-assure friends or get them to call me if they have any concerns.
Cheers
Paul Shepherd,
GeoMetron Bikes Ltd, 2 RBF Business Centre,
Pontymister Ind Est, Risca, Newport, NP11 6NP
Phone: 01633 615815

Thanks Stu,

I've been trying to make sure that everyone knows this is the case and to quieten down some of the crazier rumours on the Fox thread.

So , will this affect the availability for forks for a g16 29 er build , ie the offset , i've been waiting for a dpx2 for a build which is also now not looking good ? , any thoughts chainline ?

Shouldn't affect that bigmagoo no based on my discussion with Paul/Chris

stu - if you're about, just sent you a PM

Hi,

I am thinking about fitting a water bottle to my xl frame. The bosses for the cable guides are the right size for water bottle bolts and there is enough clearance for it. The bottle will be very forward in the frame, which might look a bit odd.

Will the bosses hold up to a full water bottle? Any thoughts?

Bosses should be fine if it will fit.

Tall_martin could you post a pic of that set up if you get a chance?

Finale

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Nice.... good trip? I had four great days riding.

May also have booked flights for April to go back with a different gang of mates.... Not mentioned it to the other half yet.

Haha, We did, trails were blown and slippy, but great fun. I was knackered. Far too unfit going into it.

Did about 2.5days uplift and 1 day pedalling with a chilled afternoon. Got myself into trouble several times staying with faster and younger peeps!

Glad you had a great time.

I haven't been getting out much but today I went to my old local at Hamsterley. First proper day of just riding the bike without faffing around with it on familiar trails in nice weather. I really started to gel with it today and enjoyed it a lot.

The rear end feels amazing but the fork took some fettling to balance the bike. Having done that now the fork feels mint. Also, the tubeless set up remained fully inflated for the first time so the pump didn't come out once.

I've still only been out with my girlfriend so the pace has been pretty relaxed. That big cockpit is a nice place to sit and it minces admirably. On the descents though it was brakes off, monster trucking. The thing just flies over rough ground. Steep sections don't feel so steep anymore. It changes direction really easily but the steering is very slow. I think it's in my head. When I'm going up and along I'm kind of in 'trail bike mode' but obviously this bike is many times less twitchy than my old one so when you drop in the first 'turn in' feels really floppy and lazy and I had to correct myself a few times. I'll get used to it. Once up to speed it just runs away and carves around in a really satisfying manner.

It also goes up hills. I'm crap at technical climbing. I just sit down and mash the flat pedals. Luckily it just crawls up and over most stuff. If I clipped in and/or just made an effort it would fly, but I just pedal strike my way up stuff.

Speaking of pedal strikes, I'd have lots of them today. I think I should have a bash guard on ready for the inevitable.

Coming up next weekend- BPW and FOD.
I think I've gone too flimsy on my tyre choice but we'll soon find out.

Speaking of pedal strikes, I'd have lots of them today.

170mm cranks here. Haven't tried the high position yet. Today would have been perfect for that actually but good to know it's manageable in low.

Chainline - Member

Haha, We did, trails were blown and slippy, but great fun. I was knackered. Far too unfit going into it.

The Defender and Wild Enduro yours that Finale Free ride do are a nice break from the blown out rocky stuff... smooth forest trails, all fliw and corners.

Really enjoyed the bike... above all else, having the space to move on the bike means I don't get as beaten up physically... no side back or any of that. Dirt used always go on and on about DH bikes being too small... They had a point.

Just spent the afternoon building my G13 back up after noticing the difference in this...

above all else, having the space to move on the bike means I don't get as beaten up physically... no side back or any of that.

...on local runs with the Tallboy ahead of my trip to finale next weekend. And I'm looking forward to giving it a run on terrain that, in my head, it was made for.

Finale - Exo casing good or better with DH casing?

No punctures for me on Double Downs on this trip or the previous... one mate on Exo HR2s had 3 in 30 mins.

"No sore back" it should say above.

Gotama, Exo ok if you're light but given the choice DH and no punctures better!

Sharkattack, I too run 165mm cranks. Other mechanisms are to add or reduce volume spacers and pressure to the shock to manage the support point but give the desired response.
In reality I think you will just intuitively begin to reduce strikes.

Regarding the 'slow' front, that is usually a case of getting used to driving the front. Try lowering the bars 5-10mm and see how that feels. That helped initially for me and over time, as I found the weighting becoming both natural and fun, I've raised my bars back to previous levels, if not higher with the 29 front wheel.

Thought I’d post a little comment on running a coil on the g13. I got a van Rc super cheap from Mojo and had two days riding on it over the weekend.

Bottom line is it’s great. Super plush and a ton of grip on loose shale and gravel with a much more supple feel over rocks and chop. Sometimes it felt with the air shock that at lower speeds the rear end would get caught up on stuff and slow me down. None of that either the coil. I rode it on the enduro trails in Grizedale and did walna scar descent. Got a pr down there 48th on Strava out of 1,300. Pretty chuffed with that as I wasn’t trying too hard and messed some of the switchbacks up on the top half.
On the Saturday I got a few pr’s on climbs in and around the forest. That’s probably due to being fitter but there’s no more bob than with the air shock in open. The only hindrance is that bike weight is now 35.6 lbs haha. I’m hard on bikes so it’s built up quite tough.

wow that must be tough! Likely the RC adds at least 1.5lb with a steel spring mind.

I always had trouble with spring weights on coils due to my relatively light weight. CCDB was terrible for me. BOS Stoy was sweet though,

It’s the tyres that add most of the bulk. 2.5 wt dhf and a 2.4 minion ss in double down. Gone through so many rear tyres by snake biting the bead I’ll suffer the weight.
I’m right at the top end of spring weight. 600lbs. But it’s spot on. Just need to find an sls spring now to drop a bit of weight and bling it up. 😉
Mojo had some at 66 quid but can’t get in touch with them now. Guess it’s as they’re moving? I emailed Paul S but no reply as yet.

Paul and CP are just getting set up in the new place, moved everything, now getting organised. should be mostly up and running next week.

My mates got his longer g16 frame up for sale thought I’d share it here in case anyone’s looking for one.

https://m.pinkbike.com/buysell/2271696/

So bit of an update on mine.

Was going really loving it. then had a crash where the rear just slid out no warning and so fast I hit the deck breaking a few ribs. Now feel nervous every time the back slides.

So with confidence on it is a bit low but bought some new rubber to try and change that. Some dhf 2.5 and Dhr 2.4 . Went out but the bike felt really high and a bit unstable. So thinking about it I measured the Bb height and found that it had gained 12mm with the new tyres. I didn't think I would notice 12mm increase in height but there you go. So ordered some offset bushes to try and lower it hopefully they will come through this week and we can try again.

That's odd... what rims are you using?

Dt Swiss ex471 25mm I should add that I was running well worn 2.3 wide before.

That might be a factor - the "WT" 2.5/2.4 Maxxis are intended for 30-35mm rims, so your narrower rims might be changing their profile causing the extra height. Surprised that it would be that dramatic a change, though, 12mm seems a lot, the wear is part of it I guess

So thinking about it I measured the Bb height and found that it had gained 12mm with the new tyres.

Did you measure it before or were you comparing the current measurement to geometry charts?

Is anyone running the 'official' Mojo/Geometron DHX2 coil on their G13? Mine was very good in standard guise when riding Molini last weekend but given its going to be a holiday/ bike park trip bike I'm tempted by the coil with the travel pushed to 148mm and also lifting the fork travel to match.

Is no one going to start a Geometron Owners Facebook group or something? Then we can move all our tech questions, pictures, experiences and whatever over there?

Every other brand has got one. I can't handle the responsibility of starting it!

Oh, and this weekend I had my first uplift days. BPW on Saturday and FOD on Sunday. Both good, bike felt mint. I'm not going to miss my DH bike which was a concern. Not having to push up every little incline was a huge bonus. Big hits and drops are just not an issue and I've got so much more forward momentum than I had on the big bike. I was the weak link, running out of steam on longer runs.

I do think I've gone a little small and light on the tyres and I should have bought a bigger cassette. All stuff I'll sort out soon.

Since I’ve put the standard length van coil shock on my g13 it’s got that bottomless feel to it. Not really sure 148mm travel would be necessary unless seriously going big. Rough stone pitching and cut up slabs in the lakes are hoovered up and it’s still got loads of pop and play to it. Got me thinking maybe a 36 is needed up front.

Three have gone out in the last week Gotama so someone has..

Sharkattack, I'll have a word with CP this week. The mtbr forum thread gets used for that purpose a lot, as does this one.

I've had one bolted to my bike for the last month and love it. I've clipped a few pedals as it sits lower in its travel. Absolutely love it and makes the bike feel like a DH bike.

boom

Sofaking Don't know why I didn't realise that since I had already liked it and contributed 😳

Might get Pau lto check the phone No.

Hi,

I have (rather shonkily) fitted a bottle cage to my xl Geometron.

I have a bottle cage which allows where the bolts attach to move. I thought I could get it to attach to both of the down tube cable guide bosses but they are too far apart. So the cage is attached via one boss and a zip tie bodge.

Feels fine, but a second set of zip ties will have to be added.

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Further update

The offset bushes arrived and I have now installed them Bb height before installation was 363mm after is 352mm. When I have time plan to put the old tyres back on and measure again. Bike felt better more planted no longer felt like riding on stilts though this maybe a placebo effect.

Not a 100% on the new head angle was to muddy and slippy to get a proper feel. though this maybe a placebo effect.

For reference Mojo g16 160mm running 29 wheels.