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BigDummy:I love the fact that people have emailed this guy threatening to knife him. It really does give you a warm and fuzzy glow about this place. [:roll:]
*devils advocates hat on*
Assuming that there have actually been such emails.
In part I wholeheartdly agree. For now. I think we should pause. Refunds and let it lie. If the buyers arent sorted within one week there the seller is trackable for other means; small claims/legal/visit etc.
yep, hope everyone gets their money or stuff. Fingers crossed eh?
And for what its worth, threatening to knife someone by email it a ****'s trick and, if it really happened, the seller is right to flag it up to the police.
Has it not dawned on anyone yet that this guy could be getting pre payment for items he doesn't have and then going and sourcing them. Would explain a lot wouldn't it?
In part I wholeheartdly agree
How bad is that for grammar? Once upon a time one would be savaged/slaughtered for such bad English
interesting that he is so busy he is only able to access the forum from a public computer, but still has time to pick up threatening emails and report them to the police.
It takes minutes to refund via paypal or drop a cheque in the post.
You see hora, while it is execrable English, "in part I whole-heartedly agree" is such a perfect summary of your considered opinion on nearly every subject that it seems unfair to pick you up on it. 😉
Interesting how no-one seems to have noticed that IWH was talking of going to the Police re the threats made to him.
Not generally something a serial scammer would want to do, is it?
In part I wholeheartdly agree
I like it, second only to a sales manager I knew who, when handing over a 2.5 million pound contact to the project team uttered the immortal phrase 'we are almost sure that most of the outstanding issues have been completed'. The job was an utter f-ck up. 🙂
RopeyReignRider:Interesting how no-one seems to have noticed that IWH was talking of going to the Police re the threats made to him.
Not generally something a serial scammer would want to do, is it?
Could be the 'ol switcheroo.
IWH I think I was more than fair originally and you never replied so assuming you would be true to form I guessed you wouldn't reply this time so I thought i'll prewarn others.
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"Can we go home yet?"
Not sure what all this has to do with the KKK, but hey ho..
Everyone pause/hold off now. Give people a chance to work things out. If it was my money, I'd want it hilighting/abit of support and info then I'd comeback with an update later
Linking this to the KKK? You just saw the line and kept on running eh?
Can't. Find. "Mop Justice". Graphic. 👿
This is a little fishy
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jesus- this has gone a bit OTT! i understand peoples problem - but like i said last week, ive had dealings wi IWH (Lee)and he proved to be a good bloke who dealt with everything quickly and courteously.
i really do not think the lad is a scammer - and those sending threats want to stop acting like d1cks, there's no need for it at all - totally out of order. just leave it to those involved and im sure it'll all get sorted.
This is a discussion forum, granted threatening emails and posts are a bit OTT, but if someone has time to post things up for sale and keeps coming back to post excuses on here then they have time to get stuff posted as has already been said. If your going to abuse the system whether that be actually scaming people, taking a month or two to post something or trading then expect some comeback on it.
Right then guys this is getting a bit too silly now!
As I was one of the original posters then I will have a last say.
Like my first post said I stated actual facts that I know to be 100% true and have actually happened to me and are listed as follows.
1. I paid him £405 for some Pikes and Hope Mono M4's (TRUE)
2. I received emails and correspondance stating that my parcels had been posted and tracking numbers had been provided (TRUE)
3. I never received anything (TRUE)
4. Everytime I emailed him he emailed me back (TRUE)
5. I had an absolute nightmare experience with Lee (TRUE)
6. Everytime I spoke to Lee he was very pleasant and VERY appologetic (TRUE)
7. I never once threatened him and he never threatened me (TRUE)
8. I sent someone round to his house (TRUE)
9. It was a lady who went round so hardly intimidating! (TRUE)
10.I found it very hard to get a refund (TRUE)
11. I got a full refund in cash in the end (TRUE) and i'm still saying thankyou Lee
12. Admitedly I did get p*d off with Lee and stated that I would take the day off work and come to his house and collect the cash myself (TRUE) but I never threatened him
If Lee is reading this then hopefully he will reply and confirm these facts all to be true.
Seriously guys I know you are proper p*d off but threatening to knife him or do him in is a bit too far imo.
Like I said I got a full refund and i'm glad, I never once said he was a scammer because I had no actual proof either way so I did the correct thing and stated actual 100% true facts, if people want to twist this and turn this thread into a witch hunt then thats up to them but please guys just let the people who are involved sort this out themselves as Lee is probably cacking himself now!
As you have seen I have had a full refund then hopefully Lee will refund the rest of you until this is sorted lets just give him some space to at least try and repair this awful mess!
Any responce Lee?
I think for many chipping in who are not directly involved, this website is like a community and when somebody takes the piss it does in a small way affect us all. Many of us use the classifieds and don't like to see it tarnished by people abusing the system. Maybe threads like this will stop someone else trying it on.
berating a guy's poor business practice on an open forum is one thing but the reference to the KKK thing is all a bit *distasteful*.
i thought that was a comment on the 'witch hunters'.
Can someone explain what is "distasteful" about referencing the KKK in a lynching thread? 🙂
wot big dummy said
BigDummy - MemberCan someone explain what is "distasteful" about referencing the KKK in a lynching thread? [:-)]
Iz it cuz he iz black?!
"Richyb - Member
Has it not dawned on anyone yet that this guy could be getting pre payment for items he doesn't have and then going and sourcing them. Would explain a lot wouldn't it?"
LMFAO!
... Morse is that you? because that would be easier wouldn't it.
Its getting a bit hysterical here
I'll repeat that my personal experience is that Lee is genuine - I sent him £345 for wheels, they arrived and were accurately described.
Can someone explain what is "distasteful" about referencing the KKK in a lynching thread? [:-)]
The KKK are a legitimate fraternal organisation who do great work in the community and there has never been any proven evidence of them being involved in any lynching
Then I apologise unreservedly to the Klan for perpetuating negative stereotypes of their behaviour.
oh, actually you may be right, i was thinking of the Rotarians
SirJonLordofBike - Member
"Richyb - Member
Has it not dawned on anyone yet that this guy could be getting pre payment for items he doesn't have and then going and sourcing them. Would explain a lot wouldn't it?"LMFAO!
... Morse is that you? because that would be easier wouldn't it.
Its getting a bit hysterical herethis guys post on Page 3 wouldn't make anyone think that would it.
RopeyReignRider - Member
RIGHT, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH IWH TODAYGuys Please listen to me.
I've been in contact via text and IWH apologises but isn't able to get online at all at the moment to answer your queries.
I know for a fact that he has some serious family issues to deal with and as such it's not a suprise to me that he can't get online tbh.
[b]I too am waiting for something IWH sourced from the US for me but I have every faith in receiving as I did my frame just over a month or so ago.[/b]
He's assured me that he'll attend to everything as soon as he's able to.
think somebody mentioned before he's spending time overseas. people have his details. he's not completely off the radar. he's on twitter and according to that has a new very active website too. just bad delivery timing. but doesn't look to be a scammer.
what about mikey_m?
would like to say that i also bought an iphone from Lee, and it was a knightmare from start to finish, if it wasn't for the help from someone on here I would never of got my money back.
it does seem a bit dodgy, that this guy seems to be selling three of everything.
But he has replied to every email, and that does not seem to be typical behaviour for a scammer.
He probably is a scammer. Just seems to be really bad at it.
Scammer with a concious maybe? 
He's assured me that he'll attend to everything as soon as he's able to.
In the mean time he will look after your money for you 🙄
It seems that there really is one born every minute
He can have as many personal & family problems than you can throw a stick at but it would save him a whole bundle of time if he simply refunded everyone.
I suspect he doesn't have the money hence all the stalling until he gets another sale in order to pay off whoever shouts loudest
My guess is he's running a bike parts Ponzi scheme
I hear the people saying we should let it be whilst things are sorted out, but from experience that it not the way, people should be subjected to pressure. He has peoples money and we shouldn't ignore the fact he has already cause one person to write off £200. I understand he has problems, we all have problems now and then but as said, if he got an hour free he could refund everyone and then simply ask them to pay when he can send it. If he is sitting on all this money then he should be able to get people cash back until things are better for him. I think its unreasonable to assume there are any circumstances that stop him from being able to sort this within a month, especially if he has had a presence on other forums and personal websites. This doesn't ring true and sadly i think it should be a case that a small claims settlement should be entered into by all parties. It is SAD it has to come to this but i agree that one person on here getting biten affects the whole community.
Right. As a (hopeful) end to this situation Mrman and Fatblokeattheback have just had emails containing scans of the proof of postage for their items.
For the record I offered them BOTH refunds last week having explained the situation to them and was told they were ok to wait. It's worth pointing out that the tone of the email communications I've had with them has been very different to the tone on this thread.
The threats and the visits stop. Now. I've reported everything that has happened today to the Police and I will take this as far as I can with them.
To the two tough blokes who turned up at the house this afternoon and behaved in a menacing manner towards my Mother - my neighbour got your registration number and vehicle description and you can expect a visit from the Police very soon. Did it make you feel tough trying to intimidate a Woman? You're pathetic.
For what it's worth I'm not 'in the trade' as has been implied on this thread. Those pictures were posted in a jokey open letter to my old favourite bike shop that I posted on the BM forums a while ago. The parts I've been selling have been bits from bikes I've breaking down that just haven't been getting used. I've not been in the trade for about 5 years now.
RRR, Nobby, SirJon, Pimp and the others who've posted in reasonable ways - thankyou. I do appreciate you adding another perspective to this.
As I've said all along if there is anyone (still including you Tinribz although you always go quiet after a post saying I've done you) who is waiting for parts from me then let me know - just email me (mtblee09@googlemail.com) with STW in the subject line.
CharlieMungus - Memberwhat about mikey_m?
I have Mikey's adress if anyone has been ripped off by him....
So he rips people off and hides behind his mum then crys for the police LOL
Just thought I'd share my dealings with IWH, I've booked to go on the BikeMagic trip he's organized to Scotland and sent a deposit cheque to him a fair while ago, and sent had to chase him to make sure he'd received the cheque, and in true scammer style he's still not cashed the cheque (well not that my bank records show.
He was also open in giving address and contact numbers and also explained the different names.
I've not posted much since the forum troubles on here but used to go under the alias 27 if anyone wants to question my details.
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I have Mikey's adress if anyone has been ripped off by him....
i dunno if i've been ripped off, but i've paid him £15 for lights and a stem, not heard from him since. He had a long list of items for sale, i think a few folks here bought stuff from him. Anyone??