The post in my '92 Fire Mountain is 26.8.
I can run a Panaracer in 1.95 in the back, but nothing more.
Upto '91 the seat-post collar was part of the frame (did I read that up the page somewhere too?)
This was at less than a month old ...
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(It's still got it's F&R reflectors on, threaded forks and quill stem too, none of that fancy new threadless headset malarkey).
Since then it's been raced, toured on, had suspension, got through several wheelsets and untold component upgrades and is now set up with disc only 29er project 2's but with a 26" front wheel (with a Bonty 2.35) and it rides brilliantly.
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The next stage in it's evolution is to give it the same front end as my Swift; so it'll be getting loop-bars, and a set of Salsa Enabler forks, but sticking with a 26" 135mm OLN front wheel (rather than a 29er like the Swift has), and there is a WI screw-on freewheel somewhere in it's future too.
Yeah yeah, so the garden has overgrown a little bit in the 20 years between the pictures ... 😉
Hypothetically speaking, what would a 93 cinder cone frame & forks be worth these days.
I'm considering combining two of my bikes which would mean getting rid of this.
Might just buy a NOS Explosif frame today 🙂
what steels are the different models made from?
anyone any idea on the top tube length on a 16" Kona 90's steely?
My Explosif, owned by me since new and still in regular use offroad as SS or fixed.
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Dropouts replaced by local framebuilder Charlie Ralph at Alves after the chainstay snapped, I also got him to do a rear V-brake cable stop... the paint, dents, and all the other cable stops I left as evidence our time together (and coz I was skint at the time).
My mates got my 94 Kilauea (19 inch) with near original spec that he might be willing to sell if anyone is interested. he's based in Cornwall (Bodmin).
oooooooooh - i've just purchased a complete 16" Hahanna off ebay for £60, not too old as ahead, i think its gonna get the WI SS treatment, ....now i just need to collect it and inform the wife that it may not actually be for her :/
Rossi46- Your friend has good taste, I've got a DX v-brake on the back of my Lava Dome and a disc up front. Love this thread!
messiah, just how long have you had a hoes pipe ban?
You look at a 90s Trek and you just want to put it in a skip. All these bikes just want me to put them in my front room so I can look at them.
I love you all!
Your friend has good taste, I've got a DX v-brake on the back of my Lava Dome
That DX v brake is mine 😆 i lent it to him years ago, i might have to wrestle it back off him in exchange for some Avids. I have the other DX's on the front of the Cinder Cone (to go with the red Sid's).
Thanks Donk for the rear v brake adaptor- its made the bike look all tidy 😀
Still trying to scrape £30 for a seatpost and collar before i can go ride 😥
Think it's 26.8, but my friends calipers are broke too.
More pretty scenic pics to follow when i can go ride 😀
I've just bought myself this! 8)
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My '97 Lava Dome with 2000 X-Vert Supers. Sold my Project 2's a few years ago like an idiot - got £50 for them though iirc
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I havn't read if you found the v-brake collar, but what I did was to use the existing collar, that I see you still have. I replaced the bolt with an old barrel adjuster from a rear mech, turned the collar 90 degrees and ran the cable through it.
oooooooooh - i've just purchased a complete 16" Hahanna off ebay for £60, not too old as ahead, i think its gonna get the WI SS treatment, ....now i just need to collect it and inform the wife that it may not actually be for her :/
Turned out to be pretty tatty and its 21.5"ett too short for me so the Mrs gets it!
heres my erm... mint 97 hei hei pictured tihs weekend...
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my '92 Cinder cone
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Which has now been replaced by a '94 Kilauea 🙂
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Very nice Kilauea...
My 92 Lava Dome recently rebuilt into 7 speed guise (using almost all the old components) with uber practical mudguards for child trailer towing duties.
20 years old this year..!
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'Scuse the shonky phone photo - just back from a shakedown run. Seven speed shifts so well..!
(Driveway, weeds, garage door paint etc. I know)
*High 5's 7 speed buddy*
i love the old steel konas.i always wanted one,but alas alak i never did buy one (although i was close to buying a lava dome 1989-90? like this one :-)[img] 
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i have seen a lovely explosif (the old copper coloured one) on the k & a canal near bradford on avon.
i suppose my charge duster is the nearest i will get to riding one of those konas (it is pretty similar looking to the kona frames also tange prestige tubing 🙂
heres my erm... mint 97 hei hei pictured tihs weekend...
Proper 😀
mine`s a 97 cindercone ,Mr lee off of retrobike gave it me 😀
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My rather trick (trick as in the original term for bling) 1993 Explosif. Just resprayed and covered in some rather drool worthy componentry. Maguras, Mavi ceramics on Goldtec hubs, Royce BB, Middleburns, XT drivetrain with gripshift. It's basically a minter and will get its first ride on the Retrobike southern ride at Leith Hill very soon
🙂
PP - you need a plinth in your lounge 😀
Yeah. I'm scared to ride it! But it WILL be used albeit sunny summer trail rides only. That paint cost a fekkin FORTUNE!
Just need to get that seatpost polished though. 🙂
Retrobike southern ride at Leith Hill
Wish i could get myself there 😥 i'll be on holiday this time. Maybe next time 😉
pp- that Explosif is loverly!
I think I've found a crack in mine. Looks like rust has eaten through the chainstay bridge joint.
After almost 20 years it might be time to retire it.
I think I've found a crack in mine. Looks like rust has eaten through the chainstay bridge joint.After almost 20 years it might be time to retire it.
Get it repaired! £70 for a new chainstay from Argos Cycles, I bet you could find it cheaper elsewhere. 🙂
Old Konas never die, they just get cooler! 🙂
I could probably pick up a new frame for that price. Once you've factored in a respray and that it's my commuter it's not worth spending the money, I'll only be needing to fix something else soon after.
The price isn't necessarily the point though.....
My Explosif frame has cost me a gnats under £400 including buying the frame, forks, paint, frame mods and decals but it's perfect now. It's not worth it in ££££ but, hey, it's mine and it's unique. 🙂
Price is the point to me, it's a ratty old bike that gets locked up in town in all weathers, it's not a restoration project.
Stick it up for sale on here then, I'm fairly sure you'll have your arm snapped off.
Just out of interest... what frame, year and size is it?
Once you've factored in a respray
Price is the point to me, it's a ratty old bike that gets locked up in town in all weathers, it's not a restoration project.
I can think of one way to make it cheaper then: Hammerite
Depending upon where the crack is, you could probably araldite a sheet of thin metal around it and it'll run fine.
I've been trying to break my Explosif for 15 years. I have a love/hate relationship with it. When the chainstay snapped at the dropout it wasn't "killed" enough so I got it fixed... I need to rip the headtube off it or destroy the main tubes... then, and only then, will I call it properly dead 😈
My work in progress 94 lava dome, my favourite bit is a v brake on the back and a disc rotor, causes some really confused looks
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it's a ratty old bike that gets locked up in town in all weathers
Why do that to Kona?? 😯
Surely a cheapo generic alloy framed steed would be better.....
I've been trying to break my Explosif for 15 years. I have a love/hate relationship with it. When the chainstay snapped at the dropout it wasn't "killed" enough so I got it fixed... I need to rip the headtube off it or destroy the main tubes... then, and only then, will I call it properly dead
😆
The Frankenbike (the green one):
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'94 Kilauea a few years ago:
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And a couple of months ago:
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My '95 Lava Dome. Bit of a mix of old and new but a joy to ride 😀
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relliott6879 - Stick it up for sale on here then, I'm fairly sure you'll have your arm snapped off. Just out of interest... what frame, year and size is it?
1992 Kona Cinder Cone, 16" CC / 19" CT
miketually - I can think of one way to make it cheaper then: Hammerite. Depending upon where the crack is, you could probably araldite a sheet of thin metal around it and it'll run fine.
the cost of the repair alone is more than a cheap secondhand beater frame, saving on paint is kinda irrelevant. If it is a crack, which I'm not 100% convinced it is yet, its at the chainstay bridge / chainstay weld so no amount of glue & tin can is going to save it.
rossi46 - Why do that to Kona??
Surely a cheapo generic alloy framed steed would be better...
The Kona was a cheapo frame, the whole bike cost me less than twice what I just paid for one tyre for my big bike.
Dont get me wrong, I like the Kona a lot but in my eyes the cost of restoring it isn't worth it to me.
The Frankenbike (the green one):
Nice! Are those Girvin forks? Or AMP ones?
The Kona was a cheapo frame, the whole bike cost me less than twice what I just paid for one tyre for my big bike.
Fair do's- it's getting ridden at least (or was 😉 )
Still getting ridden, I was out on it last night, 14ish miles, all good fun.
Nice, I love old Konas, I've just finished re-building a 92 Cinder Cone myself (will post pic's later), and can tell the OP that the seatpost is a pretty random 26.4mm! I managed to find a Kalloy one on ebay but if you want a nice period correct say Syncros or Control Tech be prepared for a long wait (not even sure they were made in this size).
rossi46 - MemberThe Frankenbike (the green one):
Nice! Are those Girvin forks? Or AMP ones?
They are Noleens similar to Girvins I have a Fox shock to replace the spring on it thats intercoursed.
Also have a pair of Girvins in the garage for my next project.
