[Closed] 6lb steel frames...

say please

give 3 examples of 6lb steel frames

I bought a voodoo wanga frame, that weighed 2.7kg with the dropouts.

OP - I was going to buy a new hardtail frame (steel) but like you couldn't get my head around the weight. I spent the money on a s/h titanium frame instead and I'm very pleased I did! 🙂

Light frames can break, heavier frames are perhaps less likely to break (although Ive broken a couple of 6lb steel frames)

Although I imagine most of the people who own them on here use them for xc mincing.

Are you thinking of any particular frame? It's fairly easy for a frame made of cheaper steel to be nudging 6lbs. So to explain...in these cases, it's a cost/price thing.

My Ragley Blue Pig frame weighs 5.5lbs, doesn't feel it though, climbs well and descends like it's on rails. Wouldn't XC race it, but other than that nothing not to like.

My blender weighs the same as a small family hatchback.......but its rad..

Horses for courses. Innit.

My Balfa Minuteman was 7-1/2lbs of rad-core-steelness... I still cracked it 😈

You should try a .243 raceing 'SL' frame, in their defence there were 2 heavier versions ahead of it but it was about 8lb!

As for the OP, why would you buy a 4lb aluminium frame (or a 6lb one for that matter)? I mean carbon and titanium are sooooo much lighter? Or maybe, just maybe theres more to steel frames than a weight, maybe its a 'feel' thing, or maybe its that steels easier to make in small batches so nicer less mainstreem bikes get made from it.

Or maybe you're just trolling.

my DB Alpine frame weighs.... er.... doesn't matter. i know the complete bike weighs 15.2kg, but it is built for throwing down mountains, not jey-boying around the woods behind swindon....

^5.5lbs

Think this badboy is about 6lbs of finest gas pipe.

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Still enjoying riding it though 8)

A well specced build based on a well designed 6lb frame can feel better than a poorly specced build on a 3lb Ti frame.

6lb steel frames I don't get it. Explain it to me.

Don't be a cheap ass tight wad and only buy a cheap steel frame. The nice ones weight much less than that!

my bonty is around the 4.5lb mark?

takisawa2 - Member
A well specced build based on a well designed 6lb frame can feel better than a poorly specced build on a 3lb Ti frame.

This.

I've just sold a Lynskey ti frame for £600 just didn't like it. A mk1 steel PA felt just so much nicer at a tenth of the price. Who'd have thunk it. The PA - solid, softer more compliant ride, better tracking IMO. The Ti456 felt skittery and nervous, and a much harsher ride. Just my view on what works for me.

I have a Evil sovereign it is a little on the heavy side, which does slow me down on the ups... but it does give you confidence in the downy bits. swings and roundabouts really. second bike is a Rock Lobster Team Tig, only 1.5Kg frame, perfect for riding with the old man on the roads.

my blue pig frame is probably around 6lbs, it's bloody brilliant.

climbs well too.

& I thought my Fleet custom fillet brazed Tange Prestige job was heavy at 4.75lbs! I't's been to Chamonix & didn't break even with my fat ar$e on it!
Either I ride like a tart or some people are riding shoddy frames! (& it aint the former)

My Humming Bird is just under 6lbs with a the EBB - doesnt feel it though, its built into a 27lbs bike and i've owned heavier and lighter bikes in the past which havent ridden as well.
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Inbred 29er not far off 6lbs for the frame. Superb riding bike when built up.

My Sov is built up with a Hammerschitch, a dropper and comes in at 30lbs..... for some it would be pointless but for me it is quite simply awesome.

A lightweight HT with a steep head angle and a light build would be pointless for me and IMHO isn't faster xc racing than a 100mm travel rig so really doesn't make sense.

Each to their own huh....

Any bike is a good bike if you get out and enjoy it.... bling sat in the garage is the most pointless of all..

Any bike is a good bike if you get out and enjoy it.... bling sat in the garage is the most pointless of all.

common sense on singletrack!

*looks out of window for flying pigs or a horned deity from the underworld commuting to work on a snowplough*

mbnut has been around a long time so is very wise 😉

My sovereign weighs a ton. The spot on geometry and the fact that I doubt I will ever break it makes up for it.

A lot of folk on here seem to fall into the xc mincer, trail rider category, so heavy steel frame is pointless if you are not ragging the shit out of it.

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I currently have an alu mmmbop, alu Garyu Fisher Big Sur, and an alu Pitch Pro.

I just fancied steel. However, I remember a time when Tange Prestige and Columbus True Temper and Reynolds frames weighing less than 5lbs were cheaper and more widely available. Now it seems they are all porky 6lb'ers. Though if the blue pig is just 5.5lbs for an 18in I might still include it in my possible list - since I like the mmmbop so much...

Anyone have a Sanderson Blitz 18in on the scale?

Why do steel frames need to be 6lbs? I still don't get it. 5 to 5.5lbs would still surely build a steel frame stronger than a 4lb aluminium one?

I just can't reconcile aftermarket and boutique (albeit at the lower end) with 6lbs of weight.

what boutique frames are you lookin at that are 6lbs steel beasts?

wtf is boutique?

I said the lower end of boutique and so I was referring to Blue Pig, Blitz etc., which I percieve to be low end boutique. But you can supplant boutique with just plain old aftermarket.

i got a nice light 6lb steel frame as i get tired peddling my 9.5lb frame around all day

edit: hardtail is 5.5 and the FS is 9.3, ive been told a million times not to exaggerate. if you put them together they weigh as much as me.

van cough cough - Member

I don't get it. Explain it to me.

Simple- not everyone trusts, likes the look of, or can afford carbon fibre 😉

been riding a 7.8lb steel frame today.. my back hurts 😳

i was out in the mud this morning on my Evil Sov, 6+lbs but who cares, didn't feel any different
from last week riding my 2012 heckler,

weight just isn't an issue, but was smiling a hole lot more today than last weekend on the SC

wtf is boutique?

Boutique = add ££££ for low production run frames made in the same factories as all the other mass production run frames but in different colours with cool stickers...

didn't feel any different
from last week riding my 2012 heckler,

or what

I suspect the CEN regulations are a factor for many
Though some (eg cotic) seem to have barely added any weight pre/post CEn introduction

CEN has made it more difficult to design lighterweight steel frames (especially if you're not already using high strength tube sets...853,supertherm,presige etc).I think the testing procedure does'nt favour steel particularly well.I know orange had a rough time trying to get the new P7 certified and be a sensible weight (which it definately is'nt).
I've just swapped back from a 3.7lb scandal to a 5.6lb steel unit......the unit is SOO much nicer.

I know this thread ended a month ago but I'm hoping you might have some advise. I have a 6lb NS Surge frame(pictured). I think it's too heavy but I can't complain when the frame was only £250 new. The whole bike is around 33lb. I'm going to look into some lighter forks which should hopefully bring the weight down but on the whole I love the bike.

My main problem is the sluggish feeling when riding, there seems to be a substantial amount of rolling resistance. So much that I've put holly rollers(replacing high rollers) on which helped but leave me lacking a lot of grip.

There is no dragging from the brakes which got me thinking that it might be that the hope pro 2 hubs need a lighter grease or just more bedding in.

Do you think it's simply a weight issue or something else I haven't thought of? Friends on 20 year old raleigh beasts can out roll me!

Any advise would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
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