We'll find out! I don't change for 100s, and I'm not really doing any specific training for this so just going to see what happens.
You must be a lot more flexible than I am Pretty much impossible for me to get a number into the pocket while wearing the suit. I even find it pretty tricky to get the number in properly when not wearing the suit!
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(Swiss Toni voice) You dont need to twist to put it in , just put it the right way round, fold it a little, then slot it in, then unfold it and then there is a bit of faff getting it neat in the corners. new stiff ones are easy to slot, old floppy ones get in the corners better.
If you're finding it hard to get in, maybe think about making the slot wider?
the need to be flexible is a distraction - you just need to be not cack-handed 🙂
Help! Can anybody tell me if Vision TriMax Ultimate aerobars are UCI legal or not?
I want to try my first time trial race next week and don't want to be disqualified before I even begin! Rules for Triathlon are much simpler.
I've tried to read the UCI rules before and find them rather baffling. I remember something about the extension bars requiring a regular shape profile whereas my extensions are an irregular shape.
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ECCA Festival 7k this morning. We're often away over the bank holiday weekend so I'm mostly reading reports of this event and wishing I could give it a try. Finally got my chance this year, so I was a bit miffed to end up with a rotten cold all week. Typical.
Was targeting an average of 390W, so was very disappointed with only hitting 360. Averaged 390 dead for the first 3:20, but then I caught my minute who unfortunately had a car behind him. As it was a single-track road I was trapped. Nightmare. After 10s I gave up, did what was probably stupid, and sprinted round them on the verge. That completely threw my concentration, and I didn't ride the next few minutes nearly hard enough. Managed to pick it up for the last 3, but the damage was already done.
Clocked a 9:44 for 2nd place. 1st was a 28. Could really do with a proper TT bike.
After 10s I gave up, did what was probably stupid, and sprinted round them on the verge
Hopefully an organiser will spot this and DQ you.
@twisty. CTT regs are much more lax than UCI. You can pretty much ride what you like.
https://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/articles/view/11
Hopefully an organiser will spot this and DQ you.
Maybe "in the gutter" would be a better term. I was on the road, overtaking on the rhs.
Maybe "in the gutter" would be a better term. I was on the road, overtaking on the rhs.
Ah, I read it as passed them on the lhs. Still not the best idea but you already know that 🙂
Thanks Matts, however I am currently in Singapore and this essentially THE only annual time trial race they have and I am pretty sure they apply the UCI rules quite strictly (they even award UCI points to local Singaporean racers) so I am having to make sure my saddle is 5cm behind the BB etc, but I am worried about the conformity of these bars - is there an idiots guide to the UCI rules somewhere on the WEB?
The base-bar is legal. I'm not 100% sure about the one-piece extensions and arm rests.
Had my first go at trainerroad holding the new TT position. Feels super comfy stationary, but really hard work actually moving.
Think I need sometime to sort.... how do you get your back flat? If I roll my shoulders / tuck my head it seems to result in an arched back.
how do you get your back flat?
Mine comes from a rotation about the BB and a short saddle (Fizik Ares). Effective seat tube angle is more like 76 degrees rather than 73. The saddle is 5 cm further forward and half a cm lower than my normal 74 cm, to avoid over-extending my glutes after a nasty post 25! I've been told my back is nice and flat, which was surprising, as I'm really not flexible.
Head tuck is not my forte, but I focus on staring at my eyebrows and over my glasses (luckily I'm +5 not -5). A separated shoulder means that one side is more aero than the other - I just don't recommend such a dramatic body modification 😆
how do you get your back flat? If I roll my shoulders / tuck my head it seems to result in an arched back.
How low is your head compared to your pelvis? Also, depending on your overall position, an arched back may not be a problem. Look at Tom Dumoulin's position, for example.
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The base-bar is legal. I'm not 100% sure about the one-piece extensions and arm rests.
Having a think about this, Wiggins had that 3d-printed bar made for the hour record. The extensions were very similar to your bar, so I'm guessing that they should be legal.
Hmmm I'm pretty flexible and can easily touch my toes / put back of my hands on the floor, so I should be able to get flat. My saddle is currently much further forward and slightly higher than usual position. Using an ism race so rotating as much as I can. Wondering if when I actually pedal I shift the weight back into a more normal position hence the discomfort
Flat back is a distraction, don't worry about it, narrow shoulders far more important
Wet, cold and windy Westerley 10.3 tonight with Kryton. Went off quite fast up the slope into a headwind, settled in for a 2:06 lap, and pushed on. Heart rate climbed as expected to zone 4.1, 4.3... last lap was a 2:08 and finished equalling my PB of 23:38 and my first ever win. Given the conditions, I'm very pleased. Just need to find those 38 seconds on a nice still warm evening.
Disc wheel cover ran flawlessly. Powerpod read low, but I did change my position on the bars, so I will recalibrate.
Having a think about this, Wiggins had that 3d-printed bar made for the hour record. The extensions were very similar to your bar, so I'm guessing that they should be legal.
Thanks, I might try and read the UCI rules again, just to be sure.
Hmmm I'm pretty flexible and can easily touch my toes / put back of my hands on the floor, so I should be able to get flat. My saddle is currently much further forward and slightly higher than usual position. Using an ism race so rotating as much as I can. Wondering if when I actually pedal I shift the weight back into a more normal position hence the discomfort
It might be due to your pelvic rotation, if you keep your pelvis more upright then it curves the lower back and the rest of the back tends to follow, whereas if you rotate your pelvis and smoosh your nads into your saddle (as recommended by Cobb) then I think this helps to get a flatter back.
UCI regulations require bars (and extensions by implication) to be less than 3:1. They also require that the height difference from elbow pads to tip of the shifter in the most upright position be less than 10 cm. They say nothing about horizontal alignment. I think you will be fine.
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Wiggins fails the CTT 3cm rule in that photo. He'd be DQ'd on the road - well having no brakes might also be an issue 😉
Also of interest, they remove the 3:1 ratio rule for frames and forks. Sadly there is a minimum dimension clause of 1 cm, and my steel Columbus Air forks, whilst absolutely beautiful, don't appear to meet that threshold 🙁
Great ride TiRed! Well done you!!!!
Not quite the start to the season I had planned here. Only second race of the year on Monday and I had to pull out after less than a mile of the 25. Past couple of months have been hampered by injury problems 🙁
So withdrawn from this weekend's Charlotteville 50. And the Fairly United 10 on the 20th has just been cancelled. Might get a club event or two in in May but looks like my season starts in June 😕
Can I have your place - was rejected 😉
Congrats, TiRed. 8) 8)
Can I have your place - was rejected
You might well do if you're on the reserve list!
Just for info 3cm was clarified with a view to enforcing but ctt have now realised what everyone knew - its unenforceable.
So fill your boots ( while staying safe of course ) - big aero gains by finding your best elbow position - which could be < or > 3cm depending on your physiology
Congrats, TiRed.
Indeed! He was moving - he started 30 secs behind me and came past a lap later, then again just at then end of my penultimate and 10th lap. I finished 3 mins down on TiRed at 26:38.
It certainly was cold and my lack of experiences in the wet was telling as I had to mentally MTFU in the Hillingdon hairpins a few times, not helped on one occasion when I had to sit up on the brakes because 3 jnrs decided to ride abreast across the track.
In a blind panic over my now calibrated powerpod showing zero off the start (I now realised I need the wheel to spin up to start the speed sensor) I reached down an press the button to turn it to off accidentally, so raced the hold thing on RPE. However all my times where within 5 secs of each other range from 2:22 on my last lap to 2:27 on my slowest.
It shows how the weather affects things - I'm over 2 mins off my PB and racing 30w est. more power yesterday than when I set it on a Sunny evening last year.
Thoroughly enjoyable in a TT kind of way, I now need to clean the bike up up ready for Saturdays 10' on the A11 🙂
Bought a blue tinted visor for the Giro Advantage from Bob Heath Visors via eBay. Great fit, looks cool, should stop my eyes streaming. Also a 17 degree Thomson X2 stem to lower the front just a little, and make the bars a little more aero. Maybe.
And sadly I didn't tick reserve, it was the first open event I've entered so wasn't sure of the procedure. Have a throaty infection.
Horribly windy club TT tonight. Over a minute faster than last week though as the TT bike came out to play, and also faster than my first ride on the TT bike last season (which was a much better night). 2 strava QOMs on the tailwind section too...
Oh, and TiRed /Kryton57, were you cycling [url= https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/369616627 ]Here, at Minet Park?[/url]
I wish I used that circuit more when I was living close by.
Yes thats it Twisty.
TiRed I hope thats not the generic one thats going around - see my thread in the chat forum, it has a 3-6 week life.
TiRed I hope thats not the generic one thats going around - see my thread in the chat forum, it has a 3-6 week life.
Yeah. I thought I was getting over it at the weekend but I'm a right phlegmy bar steward this week. Probably explains why I struggled to get the power out on Monday. Don't fancy being down for 6 weeks. 😥
A 25 mile PB for me on V232/1 today. 1.05.55, not as fast as I think I'm capable of but the headwind on the outbound leg was horrible and other people suggested it was a slow day. My power numbers looked decent though so I'm hoping for better weather on Etwall next week!
Congrats, hjghg5. Bunch of my teammates did pbs on the E2 today, so maybe it was the day for it.
Washed down the bike, removed wheel covers and gave it a polish. No Charlottesville 50 tomorrow, so will do a modest training ride to meet this weeks target. Ordered a 17 degree stem to flatten the front and drop the bars by a cm. might need to shorten the extensions to meet the UCI limit. Forks are almost compliant too.
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Well done on the PB hjghj5 !
PB for me also tonight also (by 30 odd seconds,) at Levans in Cumbria. One of my aims was to do a 20min ten this year and to achieve that so relatively early in the season I'm well happy 😀 especially seen as I was carrying a few injuries from a get down on my roadbike on Thursday which resulted in a cracked frame 😥
Sub 20 min nice! A PB for me too yesterday on E2/11 coming in at 23:40 even after getting a few things wrong with pacing and my rear shifter barrel rattling loose!
Good work all round on the PBS
Well done guys!
Well I did my first ever competitive TT ever today in the Masters category, 24km (probably nearer 25km) in 41:18, a full 5:30 behind another brit. I feel I could've done quite a bit better as I was frequently going out of the aero position due to lack of conditioning and crappy setup.
Tired you may find you need to flatten out your aerobars for UCI compliance as no part (incl shifters in any position) may extend 10cm above or below the arm rest height. It does look longish too. Eshifters seem to provide a big advantage as they leave more length/height for the bars. I only got though compliance earlier today because I was judged to be over 190cm in height.
When I read the UCI rules I realised that because my old Quintana Roo frame does not have a UCI sticker it would have to be thoroughly checked and might well end up failing on something or other. So this seemed like an excellent excuse to jump on my recently purchased (2nd hand) Cervelo P3, but riding a bike I set up in a hurry the day before was not a good idea, I put the bars too low and my weight too far forward, which teamed with lack of riding in aero position for about a year meant I couldn't hold the aero position and I spent a fair bit of time sitting up.
On the plus side, I finished before a thunderstorm came and rained off the competitors in the open category.
Going to go out on a limb and suggest the Charlotteville will be won with a 1:39 this year.
I see from strava that Tim did a 1:39 and he doesn't think he won it 😯
Dewey 1:37 - incredible
Measured all the dimensions with shifters uppermost and it does fit under the 75cm BB to tip and +10cm rule. Where it doesn't fit is the width of the steel forks 🙁 (they are thinner than 1 cm. Rode a 100 km training ride on it today https://www.strava.com/activities/975668128 , and aside from sore shoulders, it is a very smooth ride indeed, and my position is getting there. Best advanced is the blue visor I added to the Giro Advantage - no streaming eyes, but I probably need a helmet that doesn't spend so long with a tail in the wind.
I didn't get a place today and had hoped to be under two hours, so 1:37 is amazing. Well done to all the other PBs recorded this week.
Going to go out on a limb and suggest the Charlotteville will be won with a 1:39 this year.
Well I was nearly right
Just entered the ECCA 10 mile champs on the 20th. Fingers crossed I'll get in.
Gonna have to source some ABS and have a crack at that DIY disc cover!
@TiRed - What do you think of the Bob Heath visor? I was about to buy one. How much light transmission does your blue one have?
