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What a rider,cool as.
Laura. Time for a wave 8)
elimination race masterclass
**** yeah!
@everyone,yes, constant channel switching is infuriating.
Trott look super strong.
Cav should be happy with his Silver, he said himself Viviani was the strongest
Nice ride by Trott
So, touch wood, that's team GB likely to be taking a medal in every event they qualified a team/rider for at current progress.
Which makes you wonder even more how we didn't manage to qualify for the other event.
Which makes you wonder even more how we didn't manage to qualify for the other event.
Someone ought to lose their job for that .... Oh yeah.
Gold medal performance by BBC, brilliantly ignoring the fact that Cavendish barged into a competitor, causing him to be stretchered off.
In the words of the English national anthem:
O Lord our God arise
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall
Nice to see the Cav haters are allowed to stay up late
Gold medal performance by BBC, brilliantly ignoring the fact that Cavendish barged into a competitor, causing him to be stretchered off.
I just watched the race on the BBC, and they must have showed the crash about half a dozen times, multiple angles, slow motion. Is that what you mean by ignored?
But they didn't ignore it at all, it was spoken about throughout the commentary.
I just watched the race on the BBC, and they must have showed the crash about half a dozen times, multiple angles, slow motion. Is that what you mean by ignored?
And have you heard a single critical word?
BBC channel hopping coast me about 8 laps. In going for the remote control I knocked over my glass of rioja all over the cream coloured rug. Cav racing was replaced by kitchen towel and Vanish spray, plus a healthy dose of ear chewing (not the nice type) from Mrs Sinatra
Critical in what way? At the time they suggested it was probably Cav's fault, but only the haters are suggesting it was anything other than an accident. I note that he just picked up a silver medal, so presumably those officials who know a lot more about the event than all the keyboard warriors also thought that he didn't do anything wrong enough to penalise him.
They were very definite about saying it was Cavs fault. How much more critical do you want them to be?
Lucky you are not French copa.... Try their words
And have you heard a single critical word?
Would you like Jill Douglas to lodge an appeal?
They were very definite about saying it was Cavs fault. How much more critical do you want them to be?
The kind of critical analysis that would have been devoted had a Team GB athlete just been hospitalised by somebody barging into them?
I'm amazed those sorts of crashes don't happen more often in points / scratch / keirin.
Actually thinking about it, perhaps not keirin - they pretty much do in that.
You'll be wanting http://www.kbs.co.kr/ copa
Some bloody stupid comments being made on this by armchair critics, who I presume have never even ridden on the track. "barging"? I note somebody else also suggested he braced for impact or leant on the other guy - which suggests you didn't even watch the same race, where Cav's back wheel caught the front wheel of the Korean rider.
It has cost him a great deal in all senses of the word, I for one am pleased for him.
From the Torygraph
"The return had its ups and downs. Cavendish showed he was committed to Project Rio by renting a flat up in Manchester to use for when he had his track blocks.
And with no funding from GB, and with the extra rent and taxes accrued from living and working in the UK, it is no exaggeration to say that Cavendish gave up a good chunk of his own money to do this, running into the hundreds of thousands of pounds. In the end he was just unable to achieve the gold he longed for, but an Olympic silver is no small feat."
I just hope he can be happy with a silver - he will at least be able to reflect after the games that Sagan doesn't having an Olympic medal of any colour 😈
... Yet...
You're thinking he might be able to get one in Tokyo?
I just hope he can be happy with a silver - he will at least be able to reflect after the games that Sagan doesn't having an Olympic medal of any colour
You're thinking he might be able to get one in Tokyo?
You don't think he's got a chance in the XC then?
You don't think he's got a chance in the XC then?
Not a chance.
I agree. Can't see Sagan getting a medal.
Nope, me neither.
Anyone know if th XC is on TV? And when..
Ignore, found it.
Women:
Saturday 20th 1630.
Men:
Sunday 21st at 1630.
Crashes are just a part of track racing, there have been big ones in the women's scratch, kieren and team pursuit so far as well, you've got lots of people in a small space. Cav was at fault but suggesting he would take down someone who was nowhere near, in terms of medal position, at that stage of the race is crazy.
Frustrating that I can't see any BBC coverage of the games while on holiday in Greece on t'internet! No footage of Cav's skirmish on YouTube either other than "photos" of the aftermath...
I've been watching some bbc coverage in Denmark via Hola.
I find it hard to explain why cavendish would take that line so soon after clocking the rider when he turned around.
You didn't look very hard.
Maybe he should have looked at the bottom, where it says 'available to uk users only'...
Cav's incident was given similar commentary treatment to the incident where Viviani nearly took out another rider in similar fashion. It was only because of the skill of the other rider a serious crash was avoided.
I am amazed crashes don't happen more often in this event and there must have been hundreds of near incidents throughout the race, any of which could have resulted in a serious crash. To single out Cav would be unfair.
Maybe he should have looked at the bottom, where it says 'available to uk users only'...
Apologies! - There are ways around that I believe though!
To single out Cav would be unfair.
I don't think anyone is singling him out, It's just that it stood out way above any of the other incidents as it was so ridiculous.
Do you know, I like Cav generally by I find his overnight attitude a bit distasteful. In interview he's got all sparky, admitting to pulling back on the individual pursuit so as not to break Wiggins record and give fuel to media speculation about thier relationship; he's happy to win a medal but disappointed with Silver, and told the press he won't ride the next Olympics becuase he can't be - his words - "arsed" to listen to the media baying for acceptance of Gold only.
The British camp has behaved very well until now, then we get whiney little snot bag from Cav which puts a shadow on things.
Sounds to me that despite the denial he actually does have a chip on his shoulder abut the whole thing, which in some respects I can't blame him for I s'pose.
whiney little snot bag from Cav
Yeh, typical Cav to mention all the nutritionists, analysts, skin suit designers and backroom boys that all worked hard for team GB and deserved to be on the podium................
I don't think anyone is singling him out, It's just that it stood out way above any of the other incidents as it was so ridiculous.
As i said before - a mistake that looks ridiculous because of the outcome. To me it looked like he expected the Korean to come through so he could swing back onto his wheel or onto the wheel of the Australian rider coming through fast at the bottom. He didn't, he followed him up (in the footage the Korean goes from the blue line to 2-3 feet above blue just as Cav makes the same move in the other direction. Cav's ridden the Madison many times where there's far more propensity for this to happen and you need a 6th sense of knowing what others are going to do, I suspect it's partly the Korean's 'unpredictable' move that has contributed (victim blaming, I know)
So yes, cav's fault* but you have to assume a/ he didn't expect the Korean to do it, and then b/ didn't see him doing it to enable him to swing back up again in time. Careless / clumsy, but those saying it was deliberate are miles off.
* is it - is there a give way protocol where riders swinging down give way to riders swinging up
Chapeau cav. Must have been a hugely stressful time, the last few weeks culminating in a tight race and then a great interview straight off the track. Of course he has mixed emotions, he didn't set out to come second. Especially after twice being stuffed by team tactics in past games (which most track cyclists are pretty much exempt from) it's great to see him get a well-earned reward at last.
Yeh, typical Cav to mention all the nutritionists, analysts, skin suit designers and backroom boys that all worked hard for team GB and deserved to be on the podium................
+1
He may not be the brightest cookie in the pack but he is honest and genuine and doesn't give you the normal spew of cliched interviews that litter modern day sport.
As for Cav being a whiney whingebag. Yes he is a massively self-centred individual, that's why he's the best road rider in terms of grand tour stage wins of his and many generations. He could have ridden in the TP and got gold there, whether it's true that others 'blocked' him from it i don't know. There's a few alpha males in the set up and clashes will occur.
Likewise Wiggins, another that there's much to admire but plenty to dislike about.
What do we want - winners, or nice children with an 'after you' mentality. Like Louis Smith, if you've trained hours a day every day for four years and then don't get the gold you believe you were capable of - i'm OK with people being pissed off about that. i think their flaws make them more human.
(otoh - I recently read that wiggins didn't pay froome his share of the TdF winnings, after he witheld the money over loyalty issues in 2012, and it wasn't until sir dave intervened that it was sorted. That's a step too far)