Wow
http://www.hardie-bikes.com/products.php?plid=m1b5s1p1945&z=2966
That is all
new bike i want for pissing about on..
I'd rather buy a motorbike FFS...
It doesnt even come with spokes!
I'm not sure of my size, so I've ordered two
Shame it's not their Alpha Red Aluminium frame as I have a dislike of carbon for mtb's. Else I would have ordered one.
shame it's not their 24ct gold diamond encrusted frame as I have a dislike of carbon for mtbs, else I would have ordered one
Tee hee
Actually you are not far wrong, reminds me of a calc I did a while ago
Silver (todays price)= £382/kilo
Remedy 9.9 = £520/kilo
And a 142mm wide rear hub - is this some new standard that has past me by?
fork doesn't even come with the Kashima coating...
142mm new standard but can be converted to normal rear qr, Kashima coating is not going on 2011 OEM forks I think.
Kashima coating will be on 2012 OEM forks.
😉
ahhh... I see!
And after 1 muddy ride it will be worth £3000 and look trashed...
It would appear that trek is behind it's main rivals in this price bracket, the CRF450, KXF450, SX450 and the YZ450 all make around 53.999 horsepower more at peak power...
Iain
What can you do inflation, give it 3 years that will £8k-£10k easy.
And someone said there's a recession on
There is....I can't afford it.
Next month in the classifieds you'll buy one from ton for a fiver 😉
Obscene its a bike FFS
6.5k......ouch
who the hell is going to pay 6.5k for a trek, its quite nice but maybe 3.5-4k nice!
yeah, definitely no one on here it would seem
I read this yesterday and didn't get it at all (the post that is). Took me until now to realise it says thousand, not hundred 😳
stop press! there are some expensive bikes on the market! 🙄
leggyblonde - Member
stop press! there are some expensive bikes on the market!
i'm all for fancy expensive bikes, but surely nobody can look at the price without doing a doubletake?
This sort of thing is so obviously divorced from any sane idea of value for money that there must be something behind it other than actually selling the bike.
Presumably there are a handful of investment bankers who will actually buy one for personal use, and the rest of it is so that they can say that a £3,000 bike "shares many featrures with the range topping £6,500 model". How many will they even make do we think? 300?
I know people own sports cars for track days, 6.5k is perfectly affordable for some people. It also lets Trek showcase what they can do if they are not limited to mediocre budgets like my own.
but it's not so much a case of whether people can afford it but why you would bother, other than just to show off. and personally a trek wouldn't be that high on my list of showing off bikes even if i was that way inclined.
for half that money you could get an amazing bike - a dream bike to many people.
Why is the 2011 one better than this one?
http://www.allterraincycles.co.uk/product/119043.html
Even accounting for inflation I can't see an extra £1.5k on the 2011 model (I can't see £5k on the 2010 model to be fair)
surely nobody can look at the price without doing a doubletake?
for a top of the range full-sus? wouldn't bat an eye, there are plenty of stock road bikes that cost that and more.
While I'm no where near being able to afford that trek, I can't afford a 200k car or 10mil house either and don't think that they would be worth a similar reaction either,
All that money and no, reflectors, . . . shocking!
Do you think its good value for money ms leggy?
leggyblonde - Membersurely nobody can look at the price without doing a doubletake?
for a top of the range full-sus? wouldn't bat an eye, there are plenty of stock road bikes that cost that and more.
While I'm no where near being able to afford that trek, I can't afford a 200k car or 10mil house either and don't think that they would be worth a similar reaction either,
you must move in vastly different circles to me, then - i used to work in mayfair and even the people who could afford £200k cars would definitely bat an eyelid when one drove past. on the grounds you mention, i'd be interested to know how many of trek's competitors are offering off the peg mountain bikes that are anywhere near that money.
I bought a £4k bike 4 years ago (a 110 Top Fuel) and I think I've had value for money out of it. But now it's sarting to get very tired and I am no longer replacing bits with XTR. I've even chucked on an SLX rear mech and to be honest, it works! If I wasn't poor, I'd love a Whyte E-120 team, but reality means I'll probably get the XT version. THe XT version is still a lot of money (especially if you haven't got much) but if you use it lots or £6500 isn't much to you, then why not!
it's MR leggy 😉 it's probably not fantastic value for money, but considering how much XX costs and how much R&D went into that frame, it's not exactly a rip-off either.
I'd certainly notice a fast car or nice bike, but I wouldn't post a thread saying "OMG, ferrari scuderia is 220K!"
Pinarello Dogma: 6.7K
Trek project one madone: 7.7K
Scott spark limited: 6.7k
Felt DA: 7k
etc etc etc
i'd be interested to know how many of trek's competitors are offering off the peg mountain bikes that are anywhere near that money.
sworks epic 5.7k
And that's dollars converted to pounds, it would probably cost more once shipped over here.
Why is the 2011 one better than this one?
Because it has less gears 😉
Sorry mr leggy 😛 ...I think road bikes are even more of a rip off though so that doesn't really justify it to me.
ooOOoo - Member
Tee hee
Actually you are not far wrong, reminds me of a calc I did a while ago
Silver (todays price)= £382/kilo
Remedy 9.9 = £520/kilo
Haven't seen the weight published, but those figures above put it heavier than my 'cheap' old 2010 Zestey 714!!
£6.5k on a hobby? After all, thats what MTB to most of us is. You do it in the evenings, weekend, holidays etc etc in much the same way people pay golf club membership fees or own track day cars/motorbikes.
It truly baffles me that there are those amoungst us who, despite spending what most of the population regard as an obscene amount of money on a bicycle, are then questioning who would spend that much on a bike! Abit like those that complain about the price of a latte at a trail centre or the cost of parking before riding off on several grands worth of bike.
There is a Pinarello Dogma model with Super Record, SRM power cranks and lightweight wheels. Which must be £8K plus.
They do exist too. The guy I was chatting to at Pealake tea shop a couple of weeks ago had his parked next to us.
Strangely I think it looked crap!
I've ridden the 2010 9.8 Remedy and whilst it's too much travel for my local riding a friend blitzed everyone on the run into Morzine (Passportes Du Soleil) a couple of weeks ago. It has it's place and I think that almost everyone on this forum spends up the limit that they can afford/justify for the riding that they do. Lets face it you're not going to by a Halfords special if you've got £2500 to spend are you?
£4000 for my bike. Ridden twice a week, 52x2x4 = 400, so £10 per ride. Green fees at the local golf club are £25-£45. Personally I think I get value for money. All of a sudden £6500 could be justified to the wife.... Perhaps.....
"Add item to Basket to show carriage costs"
£6.5K on a bike and you have to pay delivery charges!!
I really don't get your view either nickegg. Is there no reasonable upper limit? How about £100k for a pushbike, could you justify that?
I commented because I thought it was unusual. I thought my 2008 remedy at £2000 was expensive. But obviously I'm just a poor fool.
I thought my bike was expensive at £2k! But I've had so much use out of it I couldn't care less how much it costs.
If that bike stays in someones garage and never used, then its a waste. But if it's used to its potential then why not?
You get what you pay for and its probably at the pincacle of mtb design.
there was a full-suss Storck bike at Bike Radar Live last weekend that costs £18k
hydraulic gears, electronic suspension adjustment, carbon everything, 160mm travel and weighed 16 lbs (!)
I think Storck have the new 0.6 coming out soon. The smaller the number, the bigger the price.....
£6.5K on a bike and you have to pay delivery charges!!
IIRC Trek don't allow delivery - so you'd have to go & get it.
Strangely I think it looked crap!
Pinarello Dogma looks like it's melted, IMHO.
I'd be willing to bet that the new Jekyll is frantically expensive too - custom shock, full carbon...
Andy
I wonder if Hardies will get one in for display? Might ask next time i'm in 😛
Set of those Reynolds Razors, Clavicula cranks and a super record groupset and you're looking at 7k before you've even got to the frame and forks.
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"It's alot of monies!!!!!!"
Tell you what, I bet somebody will buy one, then start changing the components, or strip it down for the frame! 😉
How do they get away with these prices for road bikes?!
You don't even have fiddly sliding bits, designed to work in mud and on a mountain!
Road bikes - The less you get the more you pay.
I know a person (closely relatd to a regular contributor here) who has a £8K 14lb road bike.
You pay the premium for bespoke parts. Of course the law of deminishing returns gets more and more relevant when you get to high end MTBs.
Lets face it around £750 (hardtail) or +£1000 (FS) buys you a fantastic MTB bike these days.
I payed £1100 in 1990 for my Orange Aluminium. Thumbies, rigid and you had to regrease the BB/hubs every couple of weeks. Thats a £300 (or less) bike now.
It is a lot, but if you want 1 bike to do it all it's sort of justifiable.
For example, I own 3 mountain bikes (plus the 2 road bikes, but obviously the remedy is no replacement for that). Each is worth £3-3.5k. All of a sudden that's near enough ten grand. For a hobby. If the Remedy could replace all of them (which it kind of could), as well as having a better spec, then it sort of makes sense.
Sort of.
I just think of money as options.
No money = No option (£79 bike from Tesco)
Loads of money = Loads of options (£6.5k Trek or whatever you want)
Also remember that "Adults are just kids with money"!
nickegg - Member
£6.5k on a hobby? After all, thats what MTB to most of us is. You do it in the evenings, weekend, holidays etc etc in much the same way people pay golf club membership fees or own track day cars/motorbikes.It truly baffles me that there are those amoungst us who, despite spending what most of the population regard as an obscene amount of money on a bicycle, are then questioning who would spend that much on a bike! Abit like those that complain about the price of a latte at a trail centre or the cost of parking before riding off on several grands worth of bike.
i'm more amazed about the fact that i have spent an obscene amount of money on one of my bikes and yet that is so much more. i guess it's the point where i can't see the justification for a mountain bike, however good, being that expensive compared to what else you could buy with that money.
I know a person (closely relatd to a regular contributor here) who has a £8K 14lb road bike.
12.9lbs with the Lightweights...
ooo000ooo, if you won the lottery, would you carry on riding a 2k bike?
Also, if there weren't these super bikes with massive price tags to cover the R&D, technology wouldn't move on and we'd still all be spending our money on cable braked, steel singlespeeds....
They are just optimising their range for the market place. There are always people attracted by very expensive things eg Rolex watches, and given that someone will always buy a top end bike no matter how much it costs, if the extra cost of adding the bike to the range is less than the margin on the sales of the top end models, the manufacturer has made a profit and everyone is happy.