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Have I got this right?
Three standards, Maxle light, Fox/Shimano e-Thru, Syntace X12. Major difference between them is the thread pitch, and that for RS one dropout has to be threaded, for F/S there is an axle bolt the axle screws into (which isn't part of the frame as such), and for Syntace it's as for RS but there's a pinch bolt?
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syntace x12 i think is a 135mm
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rs 12x142mm
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shimano 12x142mm
syntace x12 i think is a 135mm
It's 142mm according to their (otherwise thin) product page.
Those pics are useful - thanks.
I guess its changed again.
I remember having to make spacers up when i had syntace x12 hope adaptors before i got the correct maxel light 12x142 adaptors
Good luck getting the right ones!
I think there are two Syntace 12mm axles...
and there is the dt swiss version you have over looked
and there is the dt swiss version you have over looked
Isn't that just a rebadge of one of the others (?Syntace) using an RWS axle?
As far as I'm aware Syntace invented the 142x12 standard and called it X-12. IMO it's what 135 standard should have been in the first place, it's a much better design.
Everything else is a copy/variant of that. Syntace and DT Swiss do two x-12 axles one uses an Alan key to tighten the other requires no tools.
I think they are all slightly different maybe so as not to infringe Syntace's original design.
The RS one looks like a real plaster - to use it as per instructions there a lot of faffing with torque wrenches. E-Thru makes a lot if sense IMHO - axle nut means there are no frame threads to strip...
Afaic you just tighten it by hand, they market it as requiring no tools. That's what I used to do and the clever design kept it tight, don't know how it worked (my experience is from a 2009 cube stereo with DTSwiss x-12, there was nothing else at 142 at that time )
Afaic you just tighten it by hand, they market it as requiring no tools.
X-12? RockShox [url= https://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/gen_0000000003373_rear_maxle_lite_installation_specifications.pdf ]fitting instructions[/url] need a torque wrench. I doubt many people bother with step 6, mind...
Sorry I thought you meant the DT Swiss one (RWS) 😳
And Canyon use a double threaded axle on the Spectral, both ends are threaded using a fine pitch thread.
and there is the dt swiss version you have over looked
Isn't that just a rebadge of one of the others (?Syntace) using an RWS axle?
DTSwiss was the 'platform' for the original Syntace X-12 on the majority of 142x12 bikes (cube in my case back in 2009). I think it was essentially Syntace X-12 with a DTSwiss branded and designed axle, as the one pictured above altho mine looks like this, slightly different handle:
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[/IMG]slightly different handle, but essentially the same axle/thread. The E-Thru and Maxle came later I think, plus now Mr Hoppy's version on the theme, it would seem.
I'm only familiar with X-12. As already said, there were two axles available. DTSwiss did a 'tool free' axle (the one I pictured), Syntace did a slightly cheaper alan key version
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It's all moved on now tho, so many different versions on the same theme.