[Closed] 10 weeks AND 10KG to Loose (1st 8lbs in oldmoney) Anyone fancy a challenge?

So that is 2.2lbs a week? Unless you are a big boy barry that is going to be hard to achieve.

AIDs?! 😆

just don't eat and sit in a sauna.

that is going to be hard to achieve

Bit of a challenge then?

Yep, 'tis gonna be hard but eat less train more and all that.

Just over 1000 cals per day deficit. That should be doable with some discipline and activity assuming the weight you want to lose is all excess.
Hora - you really are a cock!

Too much - half your target if you want to keep the weight off

Well I'm 77Kg so loosing 10Kg I would be classed as anorexic 😉 Good luck though 🙂

i lost 25 KG in 3 months, i was quite the porker tho !

I'm up for that, for the neigh sayers 1kg a week is fine, it wont all be fat but theres no harm in loosing some under used muscle mass as well, and you can limit that by working as many different muscles as possible and making sure protein is a big component of your diet.

As long as you dont crash back to your old diet straight away and just up the calorie intake and maintain the excercise at the end theres no reason why the weight wont stay off. but yes, if you go back to old habits after crash dieting, thats bad.

I reckon you'll end up too knackered to train if you pursue that sort of weight loss per week

Why do you say that Tandem? If he loses the weight and then maintains an equal calorie balance, he won't put it back on.

Maybe this will help?

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

...someone linked to it on another thread a while back...seems 'kinda' interesting.

I'm 67kg, I'd probably die.

Good luck though, I've dropped 8 kilos in 6 months, if you're carrying a fair bit to start with then it's doable.

What's happening in ten weeks?

meeting your new internet girlfriend??

I've got 1 stone exactly to lose by the end of June.

So i'm in.

That will put me under just under 10 stone, so it's going to be very hard for me as it's my last bit to lose.

The recommended rate to lose weight is 1 lb per week as the research shows that that is the optimum rate because of metabolic effects. Lose weight faster you are more likely to regain the weight afterwards.

What's happening in ten weeks?

I'm doing the South Downs Way BHF randonnee.

Really don't fancy the extra weight up all them climbs 🙂

Lost 10 kilos so far another 10 to go and BMI will just edge into the healthy range

So that's

Me
thisisnotaspoon
Chucky (aka Vortex Racing)

so far

and a load of 'naysayers' to prove wrong 😆

I'm doing the South Downs Way BHF randonnee.

You probably don't want to be crash dieting then.

I'd focus on training to ride more, and on not over-eating to compensate for the extra exercise (eating a load of cake and energy drink because you've ridden for an hour).

I don't think 2lbs per week is really a crash?

Any (non Wikipedia) links to the peer reviewed and published research Tandem?
According to my course work, your figures are very conservative and I'm particularly interested in what you have to say with regard to "metabolic effects".
I have some awareness of the subject through Uni' studies and a condition I take medication for.

If you're that close to it Chucky, you need to be keeping a very close watch on your performance and be sure it's excess fat you're losing and not muscle.

It can be done, but it's hard work - you're very clearly "on a diet", rather than just cutting down a bit.

Cheers Monksie, is the best way to just keep the heartrate under a certain amount?

as well as eating the right things

Monksie - its what I remeber from what I have learned over the years.

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/851.aspx?categoryid=51&subcategoryid=165
says gradual at 1-2 lb a week.slowly off slowly back on .

Metabolic eeects ( again from memory) is the risk of putting your body in starvation mode where you lose muscle bulk as well - and then when you stop dieting your body stores every calorie it can

Only from memory tho

Eat the same, exercise more.

I'm in, but will aim for 5kg in the same period 🙂 12kg already done since 1st Jan and the loss rate is slowing down now 🙁

It gets exponentially tougher to balance the nearer you get to your absolute optimum Chucky. Certainly most of your training needs to be in lower zones but hard sessions of your training (which should make up about 30% of your training) should be really hard, dynamic, muscle stressing specific followed by a day or so of virtually complete rest with heavy bias of protien intake. Critically, during these sessions, protien heavy intake will help massively as protien is leached from the cells madly [b]during[/b] this kind of exercise and taking protien during will vastly lessen recovery time so that you can get back into your low zone work sooner with less discomfort, thereby making your subsequent sessions more effective.
A good indicator is too find a short, hard, steady hill - on or off road that you can beast up once a week and track your heart rate, time taken and how hard out of ten you percieve to have worked to get up it.
Any significant reduction in time, increase in heart rate or perceived effort should result in some prolonged rest. Most of all though, eat well.

I'm with TJ on this one, I reckon you'll be too knackered to do the ride after 10 weeks of what it would take anyway. Which is the point rather than the weight loss for the sake of it I take it?

Halve it I reckon - 5Kg = around half a posh bike weight so that'd be noticeable on the ups, and the extra work you'd need to put in to drop that much would turn you into a hill eating monster.. remember to taper the week before though, I'd mark that out of your schedule and block book days eatig pasta and porridge.

Monksie - all that stuff about protein you have there is a bit odd.

Protein leeched from cells? I doubt it very very much

Tiger6791 - Member
So that's

Me
thisisnotaspoon
Chucky (aka Vortex Racing)

so far

and a load of 'naysayers' to prove wrong

You do know the STW Fatclub is running again.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/18-bikes-fat-club-2010-anyone-interested/page/13

The way it was described to me was that the burning sensation after a heavy session was a combination of cells dying from the lactic acid and cells dying form physicaly being pulled appart. If theres enough protein and energy to rebuild them they get rebuilt (stronger), if theres not they get absorbed into the blood and you loose muscle (the problem with dieting).

1kg/week is at the high end of whats recomended, but equaly, I don't think the average STW'er is a 4% body fat race wippet!

Bessides it's a target, if I actualy manage it I'll be verry supprised. My plan is just to use it as motivation and take the singlespeed road bike out on a low gear for an hour each morning and evening.

says gradual at 1-2 lb a week

2lb = 0.907 kilos

so in essence by trying to telling the OP that he is wrong, you are actually telling him he is right?

Have your tonsils removed and lose 10kg in a week! 😆

I'm in, I'm back to just shy of 100kg now, after making steady progress from the start of the year with the STW fat club, but I don't think that's visible/enforced enough to keep me motivated.
I'm already doing about 4-5 2hr+ medium to hard effort rides a week though, so I my only changes will be eat less and maybe try working on my core where I'm carrying weight I can't shift.

You know what TJ - what do I know? Ignore me. I have an academic and personal interest in keeping up to date with research in a wide area of sports science and inparticularly physiology.
You have stuff you've read - no competition. I know when I'm beat.
Your changes in opinion and back tracking give me whiplash.

jam bo - Member

says gradual at 1-2 lb a week

2lb = 0.907 kilos

so in essence by trying to telling the OP that he is wrong, you are actually telling him he is right?

I went and check some data as my earlier post was from memory - and wheen what I had found did not completely match waht I had posted earlier I posted it as a correction.

Monksie - please explain how protein can leach out of cells - that really is utter pish.

TJ - but nowhere in that post, admitting that you were wrong and the target set was actually achievable and healthy?

Go on then, I'm 5'7" and 12st10lb after poo and before breakfast. I do think I'd climb better if I wasn't so heavy.

I'll go for 11lb in 10 weeks, I've not been 11 stone something for years.

Hmm 10kg in 10 weeks, I'm up for that, count me in 🙂

Piece of cake...avoid this! 😉

10 weeks, 1 week - 1 kg.

Ride 3-4 times a week for over an spin.
Cut back 500kcals.

Just don't over do it that you have little enrgy to train or keep your immune system on top.

I've plenty to spare, so count me in.
How you going to track this thing then...?

lrd:
I do think I'd climb better if I wasn't so heavy.

Yeah, but you will be slower on the descents 😉

I've gone from 12.4 to 11.8 but stayed at this level for months now. My fat scales say I'm at 14% which seems a sensible level but 11 stone seems a good riding weight for my 5'11" so want to get that.