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after various questions by me about what chainrings and which retention to use have settled on this for now, seems to work without a bash guard (been over rough stuff and had a couple of stacks and chain stayed on)
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Posted : 08/10/2010 5:54 pm
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Rear cage too long, and chain a bit long - then you wouldn't need that drop device...


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 6:18 pm
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rear ??cage, presume you mean rear mech one i already have and works perfectly with 12-36T, chain is a link shorter that the 32x11-34 on the Swift and works fine, probably don't need the N-Stop though, you're right


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 6:26 pm
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like it mate looks purposeful!!


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 6:31 pm
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Rear cage too long, and chain a bit long - then you wouldn't need that drop device...

And the dogs chain would wear considerably quicker. Looks fine to me.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 6:31 pm
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i've done the whole 1x9 thing and my experience is that if setup nicely then you dont need any front chain device on the road and gentle terrain but if you are bashing off a lot of stuff like you do in mtb then you need some kind of cage, i used a non ramped ring and medium cage xtr mech with a modified rhollof cage and was perfect, i have a 1x9 mrp now


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 6:33 pm
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Why did you feel the need to censor the name of the cranks?


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 6:38 pm
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Another vote for the mrp device, works great and looks the nuts. Have you forsaken front mechs for ever more? I'm never using one again.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 7:24 pm
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Looks good, think I'm going back to 1x9 when I eventually get a guide. No need for a granny ring where I generally ride!


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 7:30 pm
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[url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/1x9-chain-guide-device ]Linky[/url]


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 7:33 pm
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Skoolshoes thats ace!


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 7:35 pm
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Made this contraption. Worked well so far been on nearly a year.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 7:54 pm
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i put a granny and front mech on for Scotland trip last week,but never used it...just carried it around! 🙄


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 8:05 pm
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I really like the 1x9 set up on my 29er.

Does anyone know if a short cage MTB rear mech will take a 12-36 cassette?


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 8:35 pm
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Posted : 08/10/2010 10:06 pm
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Think most short cage mechs top out at 34, check on CRC as they give the maximum and minimum cassette sizes with the mech info.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 10:18 pm
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Length of cage not and issue for 36. Length of cage just to do with taking up more slack when having more gears. The action and position/path of the top jockey wheel is the same, so if long cage shifts onto 36. Shorter cage in the same mech will.


 
Posted : 08/10/2010 11:43 pm
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i put a granny and front mech on for Scotland trip last week,but never used it...just carried it around!

swoons....


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 7:45 am
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1x9 worked just fine on my Pegasus as well, no bashguard required...

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Posted : 09/10/2010 8:43 am
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E13 XCX, E13 G ring. No rubbing at all from 1 to 9.


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 12:12 pm
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4 months since creation and it's still holding up 😉

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Posted : 09/10/2010 7:26 pm
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with a 32/36 combo how does it compare to a 22/34 with a 32t rear sprocket?


 
Posted : 09/10/2010 7:33 pm
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Short rear cage, chain as tight as, no drop device. Never drops with rough trail riding.
Middleburns with 30T chainring, 73mm BB 11-36
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with a 32/36 single ring (36t being the biggest cassette sprocket) combo how does it compare to a 22/34 with a 32t rear sprocket?


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 4:24 pm
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Here's mine:
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Chainset has now changed to a cut down XTR and a Saint short cage mech.


 
Posted : 10/10/2010 5:10 pm
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Cut down XTR?


 
Posted : 11/10/2010 5:11 pm
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Cut down XTR = a la Jones surely.


 
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Posted : 11/10/2010 5:35 pm
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Cut down XTR:

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I'm thinking of going with 160mm middleburn cranks at some point. with a 29T chainring.


 
Posted : 11/10/2010 7:54 pm
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FRC - correction to mine above. It is a 29T up front. This suits my riding terrain very well and does not spin out on the way to and fro the trail - recommended as 1x9


 
Posted : 11/10/2010 8:26 pm
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bonesetter - is the middleburn setup easy to do? Is it a Duo crank and a Duo 29t ring.
I'm currently researching ways to get lower than a 32t front 1x9 ring.
No chain device needed?


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 11:03 am
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This didn't work: Cage spider contact 🙁

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This does: 🙂

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Posted : 14/10/2010 11:15 am
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Has anyone tried the Pauls Components Chain Keeper with a standard triple chianset? Any issues?

Or how about the new Superstar chainguide that is very similar to the MRP/E-13 ones?


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 12:02 pm
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I've been experimenting with 1x9 this last week using a 32T chainring and 11-32 cassette and one of Superstar's XCR [b]£17[/b] chain devices.

It looks much the same as Sir HC's E13 and futon river crossing's mrp above.

Initial impressions are very good. After a bit of fettling with BB spacers to get the device in line with the chainline I've been loving it. In four rides I've not lost the chain and there's only a tiny bit of rub on the device when I'm in the 11T at the back that I will try eradicate when I can be bothered.


 
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What size chainring are you 29er riders running up front? Im using a 36t on my 26 inch bike and was gona bung it on my new 29er when it arrives but after looking at this thread im thinking it may be too big.Running a 11/34 cassette btw.


 
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Dr_Brakes - what chainset are you running that set up with?


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 1:59 pm
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DIY 2x9's are the way forward

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Posted : 14/10/2010 2:53 pm
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swoosh, I'm just using an SLX triple chainset minus big ring and the granny. I've got a 32T Salsa singlespeed ring (big teeth) on order from Charlie the BM but the royal mail have conveniently lost it en route, however so far the chain has stayed in place.


 
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Those SSC ones look just like the E13 ones!

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Posted : 14/10/2010 3:06 pm
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They haven't got the little chainring size guide on them but it's not too tricky to set up anyway. Like I said, so far so good on mine and this is my first attempt at 1x9.


 
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Dr_brakes, any chance of a pic of the Superstar one on the bike?


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 8:56 am
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Superstar:
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Had to cut off the lower part of the guide so I could run the basher.


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 9:35 am
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The Superstar ones show their R&D budget pretty well, it was obviously exactly what it cost to get an E13 one and trace it :mrgreen: But they work and they're not pisstakingly expensive so they get my vote.


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 9:42 am
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Tom dB i think you may have invalidated superstar's legendary warranty there!


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 9:45 am
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Superstar have a new one out that looks very nice.


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 9:48 am
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I'm not running a bash guard but that's a good solution Tom DB. I'll try and get a pic of mine without the bash this evening.


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 10:07 am
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is it just me or does that bit that sticks out the top on the SS/E13/MRP et al guide look really fugly. I really dont like it at all becuase of that.


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 10:13 am
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is it just me or does that bit that sticks out the top on the SS/E13/MRP et al guide look really fugly.

I might saw that bit off as well now that it's in the right position.


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 10:49 am
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First attempt at 1x9 on my new Ridgeline 29.
Using the standard XT ring for a few weeks while I decide if 32T is ok...
12-36 at the back and a short mech.

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More pics here...

http://s573.photobucket.com/albums/ss172/paulS_album/Ridgline/

Paul.


 
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paulS - that is one nice looking bike. I think you have helped me to decide that the Paul's Components Chain Keeper is the way forward for me. Any issues with chain falling off yet?


 
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You wouldn't see it if you go for a 40T chainring at the front 😆

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is it just me or does that bit that sticks out the top on the SS/E13/MRP et al guide look really fugly.

I might saw that bit off as well now that it's in the right position.

I thought about doing the same but was concerned it might weaken it and if the chain did snag cause more trouble than it's worth. Tbh I think I can live with it and it's less fugly than a front mech. I agree that Paul's 'Paul' is a more elegant solution.


 
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Put the fist 20 miles on last night, no problems so far - but will give it a proper test over the weekend.
Just need to dial the forks in first, but feeling smooth so far...

Paul.


 
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Don't forget to report back PaulS on how you get on with the chain keeper in a proper test


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 1:32 pm
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Here's an image of my SS chain device without bash guard as promised....

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Not pretty but doing the job.


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 2:42 pm
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what cassettes are people using?
am planning on going 1x9, but am also moving to morzine for the next few years, and want a low enough gear to pedal up hills ok... i've seen deores which go up to 36t, but (in 9 speed, 'better' than deore) nothing bigger than 34t. 32:36 would be fine i think, but otherwise i think i'm going to be looking for 30t rings?


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 2:56 pm
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34 on one bike 36 on the other


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 2:58 pm
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i'd have thought 34:34 would get you up almost anything ridable


 
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the chainring in the OPs original posting looks really close to the chainstay. might be an idea to shift it to the outter position on the cranks. it would look neater and maybe offer a better chainline.

not sure why so many people are running small (29-32t) chainrings on a 1x9 set-up. I used to run 36 or 38t which offered an excellent compromise.


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 3:18 pm
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not sure why so many people are running small (29-32t) chainrings on a 1x9 set-up. I used to run 36 or 38t which offered an excellent compromise.

cos i like to ride up alps, as well as down them...
deore the only 9 speed 36t cassetes out there then?


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 3:49 pm
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the chainring in the OPs original posting looks really close to the chainstay. might be an idea to shift it to the outter position on the cranks. it would look neater and maybe offer a better chainline.

close but far enough away,the renthal chainring has longer teeth than a standard ring, this helps retain the chain without a bashguard, chainline is spot on too thanks 😉


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 4:13 pm
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Here's an image of my SS chain device without bash guard as promised....

Not pretty but doing the job.

it'd be a fair bit prettier and do it's job better if fitted properly. 😛
Looks like you've left too big a gap above the chainring (chain can bounce/ride up onto top of chainring teeth and jam/derrail) and it doesn't look like you've rotated forward enough at the bottom bracket. the lower cage edge doesn't follow the curvature of the chainring either but that may just be bad design (to accomodate too large a range of chainring sizes?). is the angle of the cage adustable separately from the mounting plate? or is it a fixed slot? if adustable, rotate it down so curve of the cage follows shape of your chainring closer.

not a SS guide but any top guide should look more like this:
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Posted : 16/10/2010 4:38 pm
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Rocketdogs chain retention solution is rubbish


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 4:40 pm
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Rocketdogs chain retention solution is rubbish

and then again there are those who have run 1x9 with a nice unramped chainring mounted in the outside position 🙂 with no inner or outer chain retention device, using a shorter cage rear mech. and good chain tension alone.


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 4:46 pm
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if rubbish means the chain hasn't come off on the last 5 rides since taking the front mech off and cost me £8.99 for the n-stop (which i might take off anyway) then i like rubbish 🙂


 
Posted : 16/10/2010 4:53 pm
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mmm.. all this talk of small easily chewed meat is making me hungry.


 
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