Pivot Shuttle SL: 60Nm, 430Wh, 16.5kg, £12.5k

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The Pivot Shuttle SL has not been the most under-wraps ebike of 2022. Keen e-peepers out there will have seen it popping up on various social media feeds and YouTube channels for a while now. But here it is. Officially.

Desert Sage Green colourway

Pivot’s previous e-bike was very much a full-fat hot-lapper of an ebike. Big battery. Full strength Shimano EP8 motor. Hence, the name Shuttle. Designed for sessioned gravity play without the lift pass.

The ‘SL’ suffix on this new Shuttle SL presumably stands for Super Light. And while, 16.5kg may not a weight you’d see much on a World Cup XC bike, it is really flipping light for an ebike. 16.5kg is pretty much the real on-trail weight of a lot of regular trail bikes these days in fact.

Blue Denim colourway

Oh, the Shuttle SL has 132mm of DW Link-delivered rear travel, paired to 140/150mm travel fork up front (depending on the model build).

Speaking of builds, the range start at £8,500 for the Pivot Shuttle SL SLX/XT and tops out with the £12,500 Pivot Shuttle SL World Cup. Full spec details below.

Much like the recent lightweight launch of the weight-conscious Trek Fuel EXe, the Pivot Shuttle SL has been made possible by the adoption of a new motor system. Pivot have gone with Fazua for this project. The Shuttle SL uses a Fazua Ride 60 assist system.

Fazua Ride 60 drive unit

You may be more used to seeing Fazua systems on convertible (e)bikes where the motor and battery can be removed from the bike entirely, leaving you with a significantly lighter bike with a regular non-assisted drivetrain.

The Fazua Ride 60 is not one of those systems and the Pivot Shuttle SL is a full-time ebike.

Cute controller

The Ride 60 system has, you guessed it, 60Nm of torque (with a peak power output of 450W).

To put the Shuttle SL’s torque in context, the Trek Fuel EXe has 50Nm, a full-bore motor typically has 85Nm and a Specialized Turbo Levo SL has 35Nm.

And let’s not forget about Orbea here. The Orbea Rise range of mid-power ebike has 60Nm. Numbers, numbers, numbers. But we can’t pretend that isn’t what ebikes are predominantly about.

More numbers for you. The battery is a sleek-looking unit with 430Wh on offer that charges from dead-flat in 3.5hrs. 430Wh is not so far off the sort of battery size that first generation-style ebikes came/come with (500Wh ish). The Trek Fuel EXe has a 360Wh capacity battery, for comparison.

The drive unit weighs 1.9kg. The battery weighs 2.2kg. That’s a total of 4.1kg, maths fans.

Although not likely to be available this year, there will also be a supplementary piggyback battery option that adds another 210Wh (and 1.1kg of weight).

One of the most eye-catching claims, for us at least, about the Fazua Ride 60 is its claim that “When the motor is not being called on to assist, it disengages completely from the rider’s inputs, resulting in a totally silent and smooth pedaling experience that doesn’t rob you of any wattage.”

Anyway. There you have it. The new Pivot Shuttle SL. We haven’t seen one in the flesh yet. Watch this space.

Ride SLX/XT £8,500
Pro XO1 £10,500
Team XTR £12,000
Team WC £12,500

Pivot: “Flipping the script that most e-bike builders are following, we decided to focus on what matters – the dynamic of trail riding – and placed an emphasis on light weight, refined suspension, crisp handling, and game-changing performance.”

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  • Pivot Shuttle SL: 60Nm, 430Wh, 16.5kg, £12.5k
  • FunkyDunc
    Free Member

    Yet another stupidly over priced bike.

    Can you do a review of the cheaper version ie the one that people might be able to afford ie £3k ?

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    Yet another stupidly over priced bike.

    It’s not over priced, they’ll sell every one they make. Whether everyone can afford/justify one is another matter.

    Can you do a review of the cheaper version ie the one that people might be able to afford ie £3k ?

    Lolz.

    Base model is £8.5k.

    RustyNissanPrairie
    Full Member

    Honda Rally 300, 20.1kw, 26.6Nm, 153kg, £6.4k
    https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/adventure/crf300-rally/specifications.html

    FunkyDunc
    Free Member

    It’s not over priced, they’ll sell every one they make. Whether everyone can afford/justify one is another matter.

    Ok fair point if they sell them all they are not over priced, just a ripoff/value for money as muted by RustyNissan’s post.

    This is what put me off buying STW, they only review the most stupidly expensive bits of kit.

    argee
    Full Member

    This is what put me off buying STW, they only review the most stupidly expensive bits of kit.

    ‘our bike came equipped with SRAM AXS, Factory Fox and finishing kit made from the tears of a unicorn’ 😂

    chrishc777
    Free Member

    To be fair £3k buys you an enduro bike weighing possibly more than this ebike so look at it like that and it’s good value, less than £10k for a motor weighing 0g!

    When we go to buy a bike we search out reviews of it and demo it etc so if a magazine is going to write a review of something random I’d take this over a Bossnut for example, far more interesting

    If a car mag reviews a Dacia and a Tesla I know which one I’ll read first

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    Honda made a $5.5 billion dollar profit last year. Now I don’t know how much Pivot made, but with their rip off prices, it would be more than that, right?

    ta11pau1
    Full Member

    Honda made a $5.5 billion dollar profit last year. Now I don’t know how much Pivot made, but with their rip off prices, it would be more than that, right?

    Obviously, because a tiny volume MTB company is directly comparable to the world’s largest motorcycle manufacturer, not to mention the car side, lawnmowers etc etc etc.

    Honda Rally 300, 20.1kw, 26.6Nm, 153kg, £6.4k

    Ducati V4 Superleggera, £90,000.
    https://www.dmcmoto.co.uk/detail/2020-ducati-superleggera-v4

    Top of the range things are expensive shocker.

    I do wish people would stop with the ‘you could buy a car/motorbike/small house for that!’ arguments, you can say that about anything that’s in the top few % of the price range – watches, computer graphics cards, etc.

    IHN
    Full Member

    If a car mag reviews a Dacia and a Tesla I know which one I’ll read first

    Me too. I’m never going to buy a Tesla, so why do I care what it’s like?

    This is what put me off buying STW, they only review the most stupidly expensive bits of kit.

    Whilst this isn’t entirely true (recent Decathlon jacket being a good example), I’m going to say that I have some sympathy with this. I absolutely get that there’s an ‘aspirational’ angle to these kind of reviews, which is fine, but more reviews of actual stuff people might actually buy would be a welcome addition.

    FunkyDunc
    Free Member

    If a car mag reviews a Dacia and a Tesla I know which one I’ll read first

    I dont disagree that you need balance of reviews to work out if the expensive bike is worth the premium over the cheaper. But this mag only ever reviews the expensive and never balances it with the affordable.

    Honda made a $5.5 billion dollar profit last year. Now I don’t know how much Pivot made, but with their rip off prices, it would be more than that, right?

    So are you suggesting that because Pivot are a small company they have developed a bike with a big margin to up their profits?

    Its the equivalent of Ferrari in some ways, everyone knows it doesnt cost £3m to make a Ferrari, but they keep the numbers low, and the prestige high so certain people will buy.

    Not many people can afford a Ferrari (Pivot at £12k) but there are much much much cheaper alternatives at a fraction of the cost that do 95% of the same job.

    doomanic
    Full Member

    But this mag only ever reviews the expensive and never balances it with the affordable.

    This, and every other mag/youtuber, can only review what the manufacturers offer them for review.

    ta11pau1
    Full Member

    But this mag only ever reviews the expensive and never balances it with the affordable.

    I don’t think they get a choice as to which model they get sent for review… And as with any review models (cars, motorbikes, cycles) the manufacturer will normally send out a high end model to show the best of the new tech off.

    Look at any car review. It’s never the base model that’s reviewed, it’s at least the mid-high model, often with all the options ticked.

    However – it doesn’t matter really. In this instance, the base frame/motor/suspension design is the same, so what if it’s got blingy components bolted into it?

    monkeyboyjc
    Full Member

    Similar to the 12k specialized ebike I do wonder what value the company is putting on the frame/brand, as when you remove the components costs your still left with a 6-7k frame. Considering a ‘standard’ pivot frame are around 4k, a grand for a batty and another for the motor still seems excessive to me.

    I’d love an ebike, but the lack of frame kit or frame only options means I’ll not be able to buy one. I generally build bikes component by component and upgrade the frame every 3 years or so, as it works out more economically viable for me.

    thisisnotaspoon
    Full Member

    Honda made a $5.5 billion dollar profit last year. Now I don’t know how much Pivot made, but with their rip off prices, it would be more than that, right?

    But that’s not the point being made, it’s why can’t ST seem to cover better value kit.

    I’m sure the Honda would be ruinously expensive if they made a carbon frame and built it with CNC’d aftermarket everything too. But then MCN still review the £6k one you can buy on the shop floor.

    When we go to buy a bike we search out reviews of it and demo it etc so if a magazine is going to write a review of something random I’d take this over a Bossnut for example, far more interesting

    Is it though?

    If the interest is that it’s supposedly the bleeding edge of tech, then the engineering really needs to go further than mentioning a brand name for the parts and a few buzz words. Just as I’d be more interested to see how Dacia managed to knock several thousand pounds off the RRP of a Renault by attention to details than some overgrown manchild packing their 800 words of copy with more superlatives about how fast a tesla goes in a straight-line (a teardown of the motors and battery on the other hand …) .

    kelvin
    Full Member

    And as with any review models (cars, motorbikes, cycles) the manufacturer will normally send out a high end model to show the best of the new tech off.

    Brands would love to send out more bikes with bottom end kit to review… but then some reviewers would focus on the short comings of that kit ($350 shock not as controllable as a $850 shock etc) rather than the bit that is unique to the brand and common through the range of build options… ie the frame.

    But in this case… this isn’t a review, or even a first ride, or a quick look… just news of a new bike. There’s no getting past the price of these bikes though. Even given everything costing more that goes into making them.

    FunkyDunc
    Free Member

    So why not review this bike along side something like an Orbea Rise H15 ? (which is still a pricey bike) but less than half the price of this bike.

    Orbea Rise H15: 60Nm, 540Wh, 20.0kg, £5.5k

    That would make for an interesting review. Would 4kg justify the increased price and less powerful battery ?

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    ‘Hello Orbea, we’d like to do a comparison review of your £5.5k bike with a £12.5k Pivot, to see which is best, you game?’

    ‘Errr’

    IHN
    Full Member

    I don’t think they get a choice as to which model they get sent for review

    I don’t buy this. If STW decided they were going to do a, say, ‘get into biking with our entry level hardtail test’, or a “where would we put our £2k Cycle to Work money” type feature, and approached the brands with that, they would definitely be given stuff to test as the brands have those bikes to sell.

    thisisnotaspoon
    Full Member

    ‘Hello Orbea, we’d like to do a comparison review of your £5.5k bike with a £12.5k Pivot, to see which is best, you game?’

    That’s about as missmatched as the average ST grouptest TBH.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    So why not review this bike along side something like an Orbea Rise H15 ?

    A very good idea.

    But this here little bit of news isn’t a review.

    Oh, and the Rise has been covered a lot by Singletrack. Didn’t Mark single it out as his game changer bike of the year type thing?

    ‘get into biking with our entry level hardtail test’

    Isn’t Ben doing a piece on how cheaply you can get into mountain biking, riding a real mountain route? There was a news story showing the affordable bike and explaining the plan.

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    I’d love an ebike, but the lack of frame kit or frame only options means I’ll not be able to buy one.

    Pole do one, the new Bird/Ethic will be available as one, some shops are selling Specialized frame kits. They are out there. Or buy the base model, sell all the bits you don’t want and build as you like, over as long as you like, seeing as you’ll have a functioning bike rather than a pile of bits waiting to be finished.

    IHN
    Full Member

    Isn’t Ben doing a piece on how cheaply you can get into mountain biking, riding a real mountain route? There was a news story showing the affordable bike and explaining the plan.

    Ah, really? Well, fair enough then.

    **EDIT – I found it, and good on him/them

    Q: How much to start mountain biking? A: £605.00

    ta11pau1
    Full Member

    I don’t buy this. If STW decided they were going to do a, say, ‘get into biking with our entry level hardtail test’, or a “where would we put our £2k Cycle to Work money” type feature, and approached the brands with that, they would definitely be given stuff to test as the brands have those bikes to sell.

    Yes that’s true, but for new model launches, all the press outlets generally get sent the same model, with no choice as to which one they receive.

    I will say though that the price of top end ebikes is getting a bit ridiculous – but then pivot bikes aren’t exactly at the ‘budget’ end, the switchblade starts at £5700 ffs. Top model is £9k.

    HoratioHufnagel
    Free Member

    I’d love an ebike, but the lack of frame kit or frame only options means I’ll not be able to buy one.

    Commencal do some as well but prices have gone up (I paid 2.5k including import duty for frame, e8000 motor, 504wh battery, charger 18 months ago)
    https://www.commencal-store.co.uk/PBSCCatalog.asp?ActionID=67174912&PBCATID=3717857

    It’s still not going to be cheap though. Wouldn’t be suprised if even the Bird frame only option is upwards of 4k. After 3 years when you come to sell, the warranty will have expired (motors aren’t generally serviceable or repairable) and the battery will be quite worn, so the frame/motor/battery isn’t going to be worth much.

    I’ve bought a cargo ebike recently, and the hub motor and battery seem a lot cheaper and easier to deal with.

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    motors aren’t generally serviceable or repairable

    Most are. It’s just shimano ones that aren’t.

    ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    After 3 years when you come to sell, the warranty will have expired (motors aren’t generally serviceable or repairable) and the battery will be quite worn, so the frame/motor/battery isn’t going to be worth much

    The key thing I think, is will you be able to buy a replacement motor on its own? and for how much? (for what would then be 3+ year old tech). That risk and potential cost is part and parcel of buying a used MTB, meat or electric.

    Would love to see the working for why the battery will be worn after 3 years. Say 150 cycles from full to 20% cpaacity, with slow recharging. Why would that wreck it? or is there something in emtb motor tech I am missing?

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    The key thing I think, is will you be able to buy a replacement motor on its own? and for how much? (for what would then be 3+ year old tech).

    I did. Was £375, direct from Specialized (in return for the knackered motor) with a 2 year warranty.

    thisisnotaspoon
    Full Member

    Isn’t Ben doing a piece on how cheaply you can get into mountain biking, riding a real mountain route? There was a news story showing the affordable bike and explaining the plan.

    Which is fair enough, but the way it’s written makes it sound like a Top Gear challenge rather than a proper review of the best bikes in the £600-£1200 bracket.

    I guess I’m just annoyed that I’m too old for mbuk, too bored of the 12month cycle of MBR articles, and too alienated by ST. Where’s the articles for the 99% of people who will never buy an ebike or AXS/Di2 and just want to rag their £1k bikes up and down hills?

    argee
    Full Member

    Price is an issue in every avenue of life, it’s just priorities or lack of cash that change our buying preferences. I’ve had people going on about the madness of me spending 5k on an ebike, whilst they drive their 30k plus car, or go to disneyworld for a holiday.

    No matter how many times i think that bikes are too expensive, i’ll still see lots of people on top spec levos or kenevos at FoD each week, as well as many other bikes, i’d love to have something like this Pivot, but family and funds just don’t stretch to that, so the giant will have to last another couple of years, or do the usual and in one months time break down after the warranty ends 😂

    footflaps
    Full Member

    but more reviews of actual stuff people might actually buy would be a welcome addition.

    But people do buy them and people reading STW buy them. Plenty of expensive ebikes amongst the readership.

    Where’s the articles for the 99% of people who will never buy an ebike or AXS/Di2 and just want to rag their £1k bikes up and down hills?

    All the articles that aren’t about new bikes – which was most of them in the last mag…..

    thisisnotaspoon
    Full Member

    But people do buy them and people reading STW buy them. Plenty of expensive ebikes amongst the readership.

    There’s a handful of people I’d recognise as regular posters on e-bike threads. But the PSA: Bargain fork/jacket/helmet/shoes threads still seem more popular.

    footflaps
    Full Member

    I just don’t get the ‘I can’t stand STW because they dare acknowledge that there are expensive bikes and people do buy them’ mindset. I have no intention of buying one, but enjoy reading the reviews.

    ayjaydoubleyou
    Full Member

    Where’s the articles for the 99% of people who will never buy an ebike or AXS/Di2 and just want to rag their £1k bikes up and down hills?

    thats the forums…

    weekly riding pic thread, route discussions, how do I fix this bike from 2009.

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    But the PSA: Bargain fork/jacket/helmet/shoes threads still seem more popular.

    They’re for stuff that’s discounted normally, not just ‘here’s a really good value (at RRP) product.’

    ta11pau1
    Full Member

    I have no intention of buying one, but enjoy reading the reviews.

    Exactly. I quite enjoyed watching the test drive of the new £2m Ferrari Daytona SP3. I doubt I’ll ever be in the position to own one… 🤣

    ads678
    Full Member

    Personally, I don’t read the mag as I find it quite boring.

    I don’t read the reviews of bikes like this as its just another E-bike with a hefty price tag. Means nothing to me. I popped in here as I wanted to see how many posts before someone said How Much!?!?!…

    I read the one recently about the Nukeproofs, as thats interesting to me to see what kit you get on a bike that won’t normally have a rediculous price tag attached to it.

    tpbiker
    Free Member

    Whilst 12.5 k a lot of cash, if you think that’s over priced then don’t look at the price of a top end road bike. 12.5k gets you a top end tarmac. It has no motor, no suspension, no fancy dropper. In fact it actually costs about a grand more than if you bought all the parts individually at rrp.

    tomhoward
    Full Member

    I’ve had people going on about the madness of me spending 5k on an ebike, whilst they drive their 30k plus car, or go to disneyworld for a holiday.

    What’s the going rate of raising a kid from 0-18? £100k+? And plenty of people have more than one of those. But that’s another thread.

    footflaps
    Full Member

    Whilst 12.5 k a lot of cash, if you think that’s over priced then don’t look at the price of a top end road bike. 12.5k gets you a top end tarmac. It has no motor, no suspension, no fancy dropper. In fact it actually costs about a grand more than if you bought all the parts individually at rrp.

    The top end Tarmac is the most common bike in my Saturday riding group – 4 of them IIRC. Quite a few have been ‘upgraded’ as well..

    I’m merely on a mid range £7k Orbea Orca….

    thisisnotaspoon
    Full Member

    I’ve had my “Sunday Best” road bike so long now the Tarmac crowd assume it’s a deliberate retro statement and show an interest again 🤣

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