New Hope Fortus 30 SC – Lighter wheels for trail and enduro

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Hope has released a new wheel, the Fortus 30 SC. SC stands for Single Cavity, so unlike the Fortus 30 – which is aimed at ebikes and Downhill – the SC forgoes the internal rim structure, saving you 100g and giving you a trail/enduro wheel. In other respects, the Fortus 30 SC is the same as the original Fortus 30 – an alloy rim with 32 spoke holes, recommended for tyres 2.4 – 2.8in wide.

There’s no song and dance about the launch of these – we were shown them in a quiet corner of Bespoked – but they’re available to order via your local bike shop and their Hope B2B access now. Available in 29 and 27.5in, they’re £100 per rim, or £170 front/ £290 rear with a Hope Pro 4 hub.

Hope is still busily working away keeping components coming. With social distancing restrictions in place to make sure they stay open and keep product flowing, you probably won’t manage to take a factory tour. Luckily, we’ve been, so you can view behind the scenes from the comfort of your sofa.

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  • New Hope Fortus 30 SC – Lighter wheels for trail and enduro
  • Premier Icon mtbfix
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    Mmmmm, eyeletted rims…

    Premier Icon cakeandcheese
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    Interesting. The rims alone, at £100 a go, seem like relatively bad value (given Hope’s previous poor form on rims). But the full wheel prices seem very good on Pro4 hubs

    Are the rims a loss-leader for Hope to sell more hubs? Canny strategy if so.

    Premier Icon Rubber_Buccaneer
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    Are the rims a loss-leader for Hope to sell more hubs?

    I suspect they had to price the rims top end to make the wheel value look good. I can’t imagine anyone is thinking of buying a Hope rim except as a direct replacement for a damaged one because, as you say, their reputation isn’t the best.

    Premier Icon dhrider
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    If they are only 100g lighter per rim, they are still far to heavy for the money!

    Premier Icon doomanic
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    EX511 is £100 and would seem like a much better buy.

    Premier Icon TheGhost
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    Weight?

    Premier Icon dhrider
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    Weights for these aren’t listed other than 100g per rim lighter.

    As an assumption it’s 100g lighter on each of the weights below of the Fortus 30….

    Rim only weight: 26” – 645g/27.5” – 675g/29” – 720g
    Wheelset weight from: 26” – 2230g/27.5” – 2305g/29” – 2435g

    So 2105g for a pair of 275 wheels and 2235g for 29er, heavy and way over priced!

    Premier Icon mashr
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    So 2105g for a pair of 275 wheels and 2235g for 29er, heavy and way over priced!

    And they’ll still sell them in silly numbers. Loads of people bought the old 30s without realising what they were putting on their bikes, they’ll have no issue shifting these

    Premier Icon Tom Howard
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    Weight?

    Yep.

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    Hey Singletrack, it wouldn’t be hard to drop them a line to confirm the actual rim weights, would it?

    Premier Icon richmtb
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    Hey Singletrack, it wouldn’t be hard to drop them a line to confirm the actual rim weights, would it?

    STW: Hey Hope, you say these wheels are lighter now? Can you just confirm what the weights are?

    HOPE: Hey STW, yes the new wheels are lighter, 100G per wheel thanks to the new rims!

    STW: That’s great so what weight are they now?

    HOPE: What?

    STW: What weight is a complete wheelset?

    HOPE: Sorry <crackle> y (crackle) break <crackle> p

    STW: Are you there, can you tell me the weights?

    HOPE: Sorry, Tunnel bye

    Premier Icon Hannah Dobson
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    Hi, sorry – post covid I’m still not operating at 100%. Weights:

    27.5in Rim – 565g

    29in Rim – 600g

    732/846g with Boost Pro4 in 27.5

    765/880g with Boost Pro4 in 29

    Premier Icon Blackflag
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    Well thats a lot lighter than the guesstimates above.

    Premier Icon mashr
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    Pretty much comparable with DT350 on XM481s iirc

    Premier Icon Tom Howard
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    Hope list their pro 4 rear around 300g dependant on axles, freehubs etc, so to get 880g for a full 29 wheel, they must be using some pretty special spokes.

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    Hope list their pro 4 rear around 300g dependant on axles, freehubs etc, so to get 880g for a full 29 wheel, they must be using some pretty special spokes.

    I also thought that seemed suspiciously light.

    1,645g for a 29er wheelset at this price/rim weight is probably incorrect, eh?

    Premier Icon reeksy
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    Yep. Fortus 26 wheelset I have is 2.1kg I think and they’re noticeably lighter than my Fortus 30.

    Premier Icon Hannah Dobson
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    ‘Black Sapim Race stainless steel double butted spokes built with silver brass nipples’ says the sheet.

    Premier Icon Rubber_Buccaneer
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    They must have left the freehub off

    Premier Icon Tom Howard
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    So 230g ish per 29 wheel. Something doesn’t add up there.

    I reckon 2150 ish for a pair of 29s, based on published weights of the components.

    Premier Icon Hannah Dobson
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    Full small print:

    ‘Fortus 30mm SC Front Standard and Boost wheels come supplied with 15mm and 20mm endcaps.
    Fortus 30mm SC Rear Standard wheels come supplied with 135 QR and 142 x 12mm endcaps.
    Pro 4 32 Hole hubs with stainless steel sealed cartridge bearings Four Pawl Ratchet System with 44 tooth engagement (8.2°)
    Black Sapim Race stainless steel double butted spokes built with silver brass nipples’

    No freehubs mentioned on the sheet I have.

    Premier Icon mashr
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    29er rim is 35g heavier than 27.5er
    29er wheel is 33g(front)/34g(rear) heavier

    Are we thinking that Hope are just making the numbers up?

    Premier Icon lawman91
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    No idea where those weights have come from, but the stock Fortus 30 in 29 weighs 2435g for the pair. Rims are 720g each in 29 for the normal Fortus 30, if the SC weighs 600g as claimed they’ll be 240g lighter than the stock Fortus 30 so around 2.2kg. So basically still sodding heavy.

    Premier Icon chakaping
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    Depends how sturdy the rims turn out to be, but the benchmark EX511 rims are quoted as 570g per 29in rim.

    So these have got a tough act to follow there.

    Premier Icon honourablegeorge
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    chakaping

    1,645g for a 29er wheelset at this price/rim weight is probably incorrect, eh?

    445g for two hope hubs plus spokes? Lol

    Premier Icon Northwind
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    It’s 1.30am and I am a sadsack, so, maths time! For 29er…

    Rims are 600g claimed.
    Pro 4 front is 194g for 15mm, J-pull, boost.
    Pro 4 rear is 305g for 12mm, j-pull, boost, XD. Both “pictures on scales” from Nobl.
    Brass nipples are about a gram each so 32g.

    That’s 826g/937g without spokes.
    Claimed wheelset weight is 765/880g.

    So the spokes must weigh, um, minus 61g for the front and minus 57g for the rear.

    OK so, for the 29er it’s probably about 290mm spokes, so for sapim races that’s about 200g a wheel (numbers from: me). So that’d give an actual and pretty realistic sounding weight of 1026g/1137g.

    Disclaimer: These are all for j-pull, since as far as I know Hope doesn’t currently do a Pro 4 SP. Obviously their numbers are bollocks but it’s possible they’re doing SP for these and that could drop the weight by a little

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