A lot of bikes pass through the Singletrack office, a lot of very good bikes at that, and some are harder to send back than others. These are generally the ones that have made us smile, flattered our riding and been so addictive to ride that we’ll find any excuse to get out on them. And that’s why I bought this Orange Five.
My Five affair started when we got in the Evo Five to test back in issue 58. It felt instantly comfortable to ride, like sticking your foot in a new pair of trainers and them feeling like your stinking old favourites that you can’t bear to throw away. A week in Spain and a few rides on local trails did little to change that feeling, everything was where it should be and just, well, right. I even like the way it looks; functional, purposeful and uncomplicated.
Eventually the time came when I had to drop the test bike back at the factory and say goodbye. Bikes came and went but the Five was the one that stuck in my head as a bike I wanted to ride again without having to hand it back after a month or so. Rather than try to get another in for test on some spurious excuse and try to disappear it, and myself, from the Orange Bicycle Reclamation Division I just stumped up the money for a frame.
I say ‘just’, I actually spent a week riding a 16″ and 18″ frame back to back to see which fit me better. I came to the conclusion I was a 17″ but the 16″ felt more manageable in technical sections than the 18″ despite the longer wheelbase of the 18″ feeling more stable at speed. Horses, courses, pros, cons, you pay your money you take your chance. Oh and I agonised over colour choice. I settled on a raw metal finish with a clear lacquer to keep it looking smart. Orange don’t offer this as an option as it’s too time consuming to clean and buff up a frame but they’ll sell you an unpainted frame for you to polish, buff and paint as you like.
The Five is a versatile beast and that’s what I wanted, something that’d work on the trails here, be up for some enduro stage-race action and even get taken on Alpine trips and be a generally good bike for hanging test kit off. That versatility is probably the reason for the Five’s popularity; one bike that’s happy pretty much everywhere.
There was a bit of a wait once the order had been put in, Orange are working flat out to satisfy the glut of orders that have come in for the new Five, but I knew it was worth the wait. And I didn’t have a choice…
Then came an e-mail from Dave at Orange:
Oh, and I happen to have a Five frame next to my desk,  I’ll pop over for a cworfee.
Cheers,
Dave.
Result.
You may think that seeing new bikes pretty much every week I’d be immune to the new bike joy feeling. I’m not. Not at all.
As well as deliberating over size and colour the other thing I thought long and hard about was rear axle. The Five is available with a QR or Maxle rear end with the Maxle option costing an extra £100. Popular opinion is that if you’re going to be subjecting the Five to Alpine descents and general looning then the extra stiffness of the Maxle is a good idea. My problem with Maxle is that it’s a proper pain in the rear end (literally) to get the wheel in the right position to push the skewer through. I’ve also had them come loose during riding and wheel choice is limited. So QR it was.
To minimise my confusion with getting the right headset, as the current selection of standards confuses me more than it should do, Orange squeezed a Hope ZS taper in for me.
Choosing a shock was thankfully an easy decision. The Fox Float RP23 is much like the Five, ubiquitous for a good reason. It just works. The guys at Mojo who distribute Fox in the UK know the Five well so could advise on shock tune and set up.
I’m a tart and proud of it so fitting these UltraLight mount kits from Racing Bros put a smile on my face. They claim to be 33% to 50% lighter than standard bushings. I can’t say I’ve ever been that bothered about the weight of my shock mounts but the gold anodizing looks rather lovely.
Despite being desperate to ride the bike, I wanted to take my time getting the right components to fit to it and getting things as close to perfect as possible, so wasn’t going to rush things. That was until I needed a bike to go to Sicily with. By the weekend. And it was Thursday.
Many of my other bikes died in the resulting panic to get the Five rideable, the spares box was heavily raided and after praying to the brake bleeding gods I got the SLX brakes to work, despite having to thread the rear hose through the swingarm. Come Saturday night though it was finished and, more importantly seemed to work. It’s not the exact spec I had in mind but hey, it was a new bike to ride on new trails.
Bike bag fresh and on Sicilian soil…
One ride on…
The Crank Brothers Joplin is possibly my favourite product in a long time. I’m happy to accept that it needs servicing, wobbles a bit and costs quite a chunk of money, but it has become an indispensable component on any of my bikes. The ability to drop, or raise the saddle height on the fly is incredibly addictive and allows you to get the most out of every bit of trail.
It’ll be interesting to see the upcoming RockShox Reverb seatpost as it should incorporate some of the fork manufacturers sealing and movement expertise as well as using a hydraulic remote lever.
Full Spec List (So far):
Frame: Orange Five 16″
Headset: Hope ZS Taper
Fork: Fox 32 TALAS 140mm
Shock: Fox Float RP23
Stem: Raceface Atlas 70mm
Bars: Raceface Atlas 720mm
Seatpost: Crank Brothers Joplin 4
Saddle: Charge Knife
Wheels: Crank Brothers Cobalt with 15mm front axle
Tyres: Continental Rubber Queen 2.2 Black Chili
Brakes: Shimano SLX, 180 discs
Gear Levers: Shimano XTR
Rear Mech: Shimano XTR
Front Mech: Shimano SLX
Chainset: Shimano SLX
Bottom Bracket: Wheels Manufacturing
Cassette: Shimano XTR
Grips: Club Roost Go Fast
What’s next?
I’m hoping to get the Five built as I originally envisaged it and see what all the fuss is about with 2×10 and get a SRAM drivetrain fitted. Dave say’s it’s the future, I want to see if he’s right or just drunk on red kool aid. The Conti Rubber Queens are starting to struggle with the muddy lines that were buff trails only a few weeks ago so it’s probably time to fit something a bit more spiky, some Michelin Wild Rock’R tyres have just turned up and look a likely fit.
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2×10 – you knows it makes sense :o)
Sim
I have had mine for 3 years now
you will not regret it.
I am Jealous of you with the new one, so that you can fit the Joplin into it..
laters
BJ
Not tempted by burlier suspension then Sim?
CCDB option or 150 / 160 fork etc.
To begin with I want it to be reasonably light and more of an all rounder, hence the Float shock and 32 forks, but I definitely have plans to try it with a bigger fork and some more burly kit in the future.
It looks fantastic. How tall are you? Wish they did a 29er version.
Like my favourite riding shoes I’m five ten.
720mm long stem??
a**e, read the wrong thing
That’d be a cuffing looooooooooong stem!
That’s chuffing by the way
Very very nice!
Some crazy hub/spoke nipple/bars/stantions/joplin/bushings co-ordination going on there. You can put a good looking build together Mr Sim.
I have to agree Orange need a 17″ Five , I to am 5′ 10″ …
I’m running mine with a Taper Float 36RC2 set to 140mm and a maxle
back end, with a Push’d Vanilla R with Ti RCS spring, ploughs fields
awesome bike, the taper front end is so solid, and no flex from the
rear, best bit is the I900 seat post, lets me get low when I have my
eyes shut .
Loving the raw finish
Very nice- the pics make it look long and low!
‘Journalist caught in hand-in-own-pocket SHOCKER’
How tall are you Sim? I’m 5″10 and went for the 18 but can’t help thinking the 16″ might’ve been better.
17 would’ve been spot on I reckon.
I’m five foot and ten inches.
Thanks for a great little review Sim, Interesting to hear you went for the QR rather than the maxle.
I will be really interested to hear what your thoughts are when/if you stick on the bigger 36 fork?
Nice build. Run a crud guard to save that post! As someone with 3 dropper posts, nothing keeps them going like a clean stanchion
I love Orange bikes-wish I could get my hands on one here in the States. Such ‘right’ bikes. Enjoy!
Nice write-up. Looks like a fun bike!
always frustrated me the sizing, i’d love a 19, a little longer than an 18 but no taller, 20 is a gate.
same issue with heclers large to short, xl taller than a tall thing
Any update on the Michelin tyre? I was looking at the Grip’R as a potential sort-of winter tyre, looked like it might clear OK.
Just wondering how robust the sidewalls are, thats the only think thats putting me off a Mud-x…
13thfloormonk: Fitted them last night and will be riding them tomorrow. I’ll post an update some time next week.
Also wish they did a Five 29er – Orange, I have some ideas, angles etc, and would be happy to test it for you 😉
I imagine it’s be a hot day in Halifax before they did a 29er Five, but hey, you never know. 🙂
thats persuaded me to get a five over a ibis mojo. Lovely looking build
Just can’t wait for mine to arrive now another 5-10″ on a 16″ reckon a 17″ is long overdue !
im surpised sim that you didnt manage to get one of the strange evo fives with your connections. 16″ standover height with the top tube length of the 18″ – perfect
Buying bikes is the new blagging.
Nice to see a mag worker putting his habd in his own pocket, but I’d be intrested in how much Sim paid compared to RRP?
if you notice the rear flex I guess you could try 10mm bolt through. Certainly stiffened up my Khyber 😉
Nice bike! my 5 has a similar build, would’nt swap it for anything!!! As for a 29er 5…….nooooooooooo! that’s just plain WRONG! (Big wheeeels are for road bikes)