I see the RaceFace ones are available now in 30-38t. £50 if that's your thing.
these will be available as well very soon.
http://absoluteblack.cc/xx1-style-shimano.html
Tehan nice product are you the seller?
No 30T though it seems. Wolf Tooth now offer free postage
First works ones are mailing out, should have mine tomorrow apparently. I am ridiculously excited about this, it's quite sad.
Waited >4 weeks for my wolftooth - got a refund now and ordered a works. Had all my 10 speed kit ready to in for weeks 🙁
Moda- yes, i am a designer of absoluteBLACK.
30T is sooo uncommon guys. In scope of this thread it looks like it is popular, but in big picture it's less than 2%. 90% people buy 32T.
I am kind of against 30T for 104BCD. This puts bigger stresses on the crank and chainring. Is very prone to mud as the clearance is soo small and put the chainring 3mm inwards. Not to mention higher price because a need to use thicker plate to mill from (and time).
If you really need to use 30T why not to change the crank?? Sram is a lot better option in that regard. Using spiderless rings gives you freedom of choice + you don't have to bother about bolts, clearance etc. I am not trying to convince anyone - just giving another point of view. What you guys do now is trying to fit a square peg into the hole. Why?
Bought some SRAM cranks so I can get a spiderless 30 tooth one from works (when they machine them). Just seems like a neater solution than all the messing about trying to get a 30 tooth on 104bcd cranks
Is very prone to mud as the clearance is soo small and put the chainring 3mm inwards.
The wolftooth hasn't shown any signs of clearance problems on my setup and it's about 1mm more inboard than a standard ring which has had no ill effect whatsoever...
Though if you could make a 30T for a lot cheaper that'd be great. 😉
Just seems like a neater solution than all the messing about trying to get a 30 tooth on 104bcd
Bolt Wolftooth on and ride. No messing anywhere. 🙂
At the moment i have no plans to do 30T. It's waste of material from reasons i posted before:)
It can't be 1mm as it sticks out 2mm (thread extensions) + center of tooth offset. I am not saying it will fail for sure - but that it's more prone to failure.
I spot one more thing on this thread. It sounds like people are confused with compatibility of 9spd and such chainrings.
My chainrings can be used wit 1x9/10/11 but in case of 9 you MUST use 10spd chain. Such setup works great and it has been tested extensively with non clutch type rear mech. It just works because our directional tooth shape. So you will not drop a chain.
anyone seen these??
its a 30t with bash and guide built in...looks like a good idea
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works out about £90 i think
Was there not some sort of STW customer service lynchmob thing about the Widgits? Seems a nice idea.
It can't be 1mm
Say's the man who can't make one. 😉
Northwind.
Think you're confusing that with Homebrew.
on mtbr a lot of people says that it rubs and these "bashrings" are quite prone for bending and breaking. Not my personal opinion but that's what i read.
Not messing about to fit, but to make. The sram spiderless ones just really appeal but I'm sure the wolf tooth ones are great but cost more than a SRAM one from works
not can't, but not willing to by purpose. Designing such ring is not even an 1h job if you have all other bits already.
I owned Extralite ring which was the first one out there back in a day in 30T and it is 2mm to let it work properly. same with WT. 1mm is too small for it.
not can't, but not willing to by purpose.
put the chainring 3mm inwards.
it is 2mm to let it work
You sound confused.
How many more post before you come down to 1mm. 😆
That's fine though.
I'll carry on giving my money to someone else while you find the last mill. 😉
Pridds - mine Sram spiderless works out for 48 plus 2 postage.
singlespeedstu - i can't make everything:). I have some rules and am not making things i am not sure of. Sram option is a lot better and lighter AND cheaper in that regards. That is my personal opinion and i fully respect yours.
singlespeedstu - i can't make everything:). I have some rules and am not making things i am not sure of.
I'm just messing.
Trying to get you to make one for a good price that's all. 8)
singlespeedstu - you cut from my post in quote "tooth offset" that makes it for 3mm. I thought it was obvious.
*Trotts off to Work Components to get a 30T for Mrs ssstu's geared bike.*
Even if it is 3mm more inboard it'll make very little difference.
Ordered. Will they be in stock on the 2nd?
Northwind.
Think you're confusing that with Homebrew.
No, there was a Widgit lynching, IIRC someone ordered one, it didn't fit, Aussie bloke told him to lump it.
That was a storm in a teacup.
Thread was started by a mate of mine (Bonesetter).
The Homebrew thread on MTBR was where the real pitchforks were at.
thank you Pridds. Yes they will. First batch shipping tomorrow (lots of backorders to cover) if something left before next batch (2nd june) you will get it first!
edit- i will actually have one for you this week. Just checked..
It not on the site but I have assumed that the spiderless ones are thick/thin as well as directional like the xx1 shimano rings. If they are not then I'll cancel the order and wait for the works one cheers
they are not thick-thin. They don't have to be as i have came up with excellent tooth shape which was tested by XC World Champion Marek Konwa. This just works. I am making on the other hand Shimano thick-thin just because people pressure. They don't understand main principles why it actually works and why you don't need really thick-thin profiles. Tooth shape is the main key to it! Thhoth shape is identical on my Shimano and Sram rings - just photos are from last generation ones (new coming soon)
We can make a deal - if it does not work for you then you can return used chainring within a month and get your money back.
Fair enough, but won't have it built up til start of June so a month from then ok?
sure.
I will only not accept one totally worn after 2000mil saying "i just done 50:)"
when you do some miles write me please on the email what you think as i don't visit this forum everyday.
Will do
I just got one of the X-Type Snowflake ones delivered.
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However, after closer inspection, it seems that it has a completely different offset to the middleburn x-type ring, which makes me think that they've got their sums wrong. Pic below of old next to new.
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Which is further exacerbated by the ring being 2mm thicker at the spider, meaning that the space between the ring & the LH crank is narrower then the BB shell & bearings.
Well I've just ordered a Wolf Tooth, easiest option for me
[b]tehan[/b]: who would be best to contact regarding reviews? I'm currently writing up Hope's IBR but quite keen to cover a SRAM Spiderless option… email in profile.
email sent. thanks
Nothing received yet…
hmm, i have just resend it.
Got it now, ta!
Ordered my 30T from Wolf Tooth two days ago, it was shipped last night! 8)
Interesting thread. I've been looking for one of these too and there seem to be a few options now. Someone said RaceFace have some? Details? I tried contacting works components as they are UK based but they have not replied to me. NSB, Raceface, Wolftooth, Absolute black, MRP? all do them? Are they all pretty much doing the same job and have similar tooth profile and design, or are they likely to be different and perform different to each other do people think?
I like the idea of an integrated bash guard on the wolftooth, but dislike that they made it a bespoke BCD to only fit their stuff. It would be good to see 104 BCD mount holes on a SRAM direct mount chain ring purely to mount a bash guide to, but I'm not sure I really need a bash.
Race Face Narrow Wide chainrings now up on Wiggle, end June apparently.
I received my Works Components 34t a few days ago - looks good, waiting to get my broken cranks off (bloody silly Truvativ (non-)self-extracting design) so I can try it out...
I like the idea of an integrated bash guard on the wolftooth
The Wolftooth doesn't have an integrated bash.
Done quite a few rides on mine now including the Dyfi enduro and it's been faultless.
Received my Works one too - again looks rather good and has worked fine so far 🙂
I can see the other immediate player being Raceface @£40.00 and £45.00, wiggle are already discounting 10% as expected 🙂
The wolf tooth is too much money and cba to order a chainring from the USA - too much hassle. E13 will no doubt be on price-point too, Works still cheapest at £35.00 and for a consubable item that wins me over.
My works one has just turned up.
I'll fit it tonight, and let you know how it is after it stops raining. 😀
Got my Works one on and took it out for a spin sans chain device on tuesday- no fuss at all. [i]Possibly[/i] a wee bit more drivetrain noise than usual? But zero drops. It wasn't the harshest test but it's a good start, will try and give it a proper rattle next week.
I've ridden this same bike with the clutch mech, E13 singlespeed ring, and no device before and it didn't really work at all so it's definitely an improvement. Yet to find out if it's enough.
