Thinking of replacing my Thomson X4 with a Havoc or Haven stem. However, there are no spacers in use with the Thomson and I know the stack height on the Thomson is one of the lower ones.

Anyone know first hand how the Havoc or Haven compare?

don’t have a ruler handy but my Haven seems about the same as my X4*

*measured with a business card

edit: I thought I had measured them for someone before: http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/minimum-steerer-length-below-a-stem-5mm-pushing-it

both 40mm

My Easton Havoc stem…

…is exactly 40mm from bottom to top. Just measured it for you.

Lovely. Thank you both. Your efforts are much appreciated.

Is it just me or is the search function on here not to great?

It’s terrible, use google and add “singletrack” to the end of your search, it works far better

don’t even bother with the search function. Use google using the ‘site:’ command.