Thnx Messiah, was just about to look for it. Couple of months in, it just gets better as I get used to 2×10 as well. Even the ti finish seems (to me !) to improve with use ?!

its a 16″ so it looks good I Ache

It really does look nice loughor. Lovely looking bike.

Anybody know how different the evos ride compared to the old 456? I didn’t like my 456 and am not after a new frame but would be interested to know the differences in ride.

I’d love to know what the bottom bracket drop is on the 456 EVO.

loughor – would you mind measuring your wheel axle heights and bottom bracket height… and tell me your fork length.

I want to know if the BB is higher or lower than my Mmmbop 😕

I’d love to know what the bottom bracket drop is on the 456 EVO.

Lower.

17mm static with a 130mm fork.

mmmbop was 25mm at ride height with a 140mm.

So for the same length fork the 456 Evo is 6mm lower BB.

Doubt the 18 will look like a gate with the dropped top tube. The 20 probably will but then it’s a 20.

Found your thread before loughor, cheers. Wondering if anybody else had one as well.