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Looking to patch up some big potholes in our lane with 'hoggin' patching material and it needs to be compacted down with a vibrating compacting roller of at least 1 tonne.
It seems a simple enough project but I have never used anything like this - I assume it is as easy as sitting on it, switching it on and driving - is it? Or do I need any specialist training?????
easy to drive.
engage vibration lever with a lever, and then lever for forward and reverse. You can get pretty accurate with it if you have to go along side walls/trees etc.
They dont move very fast.
beware that centre ram steering moves the ends of the roller even when stationary. And if you are running along the side of a wall, down steer sharply or it will catch the wall before pulling away from it.
Just called SpeedyHire - they won't let me hire one without a trade account and at least £60k insurance 🙁
go to yellow pages. loads of smaller Co.s who are less picky.
Who needs to insist on insurance when you have mates with baseball bats? 😉
Anyway, it'd be cheaper if you got a good type 1 and a whacker plate instead.
Last time I wanted a mini digger, I found it cheaper to simply get someone to come and do it
Ties you to a timescale a bit though
what is a 'type 1'?
But I have been looking into 'hoggin' [url= http://www.stonewarehouse.co.uk/chippings-gravel/goldpath-self-binding-gravel/goldpath-self-binding-gravel-0-10mm ]here[/url] and they say I should use something 'weighing not less than 1 tonne' to compact it.
But as it is just to fill potholes in a lane, do you reckon a simple pedestrian roller like [url= http://www.eroshire.co.uk/pedestrian-roller.html ]this[/url] would suffice?
(After seeing everything you have done with your house, I trust your opinion 😉 )
[url= http://www.grabtrucks.com/aggregatewhat/mottype1_crushedconcrete/ ]Type 1[/url]
Whacker it down in layers. You want some finer stuff in there to help it bind and lock. Must be angular too.
something like this would work. depends how big the potholes are.
or a vibrating plate.
Dead easy, helped build a supermoto track using one of those, did feel rather odd after being vibrated for several hours though, not in a good way before anyone says anything!
Just rung a couple of local suppliers - they say I would be better off with road planings... (Much cheaper to be fair).
So Stoner (and others) thoughts please....
Just how big a job is this? How big are the holes, what is the lane made of, how much material are you buying? I'd have thought scalpings/planings would be fine packed in with a vibrating plate. The trench rammer linked above would be more of a handful and not my choice for filling in some potholes. How long are you hoping the repairs will last?
Road planings should be fine as it will come with plenty of fines in the mix (planings are used on some jobs as a recycled type 1/capping material). If you have space to store them order a nice big load as it will keep the cost down and give you extra for when you need to do some more! A wacker place should be fine for doing small patched and potholes, if you are doing a whole drive it may be a bit easier on your arms to get a twin roller.
To get the longest lasting results make sure you are putting a good depth in (100mm min)and make sure the sides are vertical to stop the material getting pushed out when driven over. Also compact in layers and when you think you have compacted it enough compact some more.
We resurfaced a road here with type one and a vibrating roller. I drove the roller. Its easy enough to pick up, but don't go anywhere walls at full throttle till you get used to it.
If its a big area, the tipper driver suggested we use scalpings or crushed brick, concrete recycled material, then type one on top.
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Bentos...
It is to fill in approx 8 or 10 potholes along the access lane to several houses. The existing lane is a mish mash of original road surface that is probably 30+ years old and not drained and various remedial patching over the years.
The cost to permanently repair it is prohibitive for most residents so we are just looking to patch it up to last another year or two.
McMoonter.
You just HAD to get another shot of one of your bloody wood stores didn't you?
😉
mastiles_fanylion - Member
...But as it is just to fill potholes in a lane, do you reckon a simple pedestrian roller like this would suffice?...
What a brilliant concept.
How big are the pedestrians it rolls? Would it handle a gnarly rambler?
🙂
if it does neighbours too it would make all the difference 8)
Planings are ok but will work loose and the holes will reform! It's cheap and that's about it's only upside! How big the potholes??
[i]You just HAD to get another shot of one of your bloody wood stores didn't you?[/i]
I initially thought it was some sort of wooden 'dry stone wall' experiment 🙂
Planings are ok but will work loose and the holes will reform! It's cheap and that's about it's only upside! How big the potholes??
Range from about 18'' x 18'' to about 3' x 18'' ish.
You just HAD to get another shot of one of your bloody wood stores didn't you?
The woodpile was part of the reason the road needed resurfacing. A build up of sawdust had dammed the flow of water downhill. Making a semi bog.
Lesson learned, I now cut wood on the concrete stables forecourt and sweep and shovel up the waste and dump it in the woods.
When I cut wood I have to brush myself down a little to make sure I don't walk sawdust into the house.
You have to resurface an entire road.
Bloody show off.
If you're thinking of using crushed concrete then make sure the site is well away from water courses . . . can get alkali leachate washing out which is not too clever . . . Environment Agency are showing some interest in the problem, and inappropriate use might lead to an unwelcome fine.
If you want a permanent job I'd just go for a bit of lean mix concrete, water will always get back in the pot holes and that's where you're problem lies, especially with the winter months on their way. If you do go for filling with aggregate then as said a whacker plate will be fine! Youll find that filling just certain areas with stone will shake your bones when you get on the roller! 18 inch reversible plate will give the same compaction as a small ride on roller! Hth
you and your concrete, wrighty! 🙄
You'd single handedly turn the UK into the M40 if you had it your way 🙂
God love it!! But in this scenario concrete is king 😆
Suppose this is what happens when youre a big shed builder!
So what is the final recommendation???? Planings? Type 1? Hoggin?
My head is full of pot holes 🙁
agg bag of type 1 and a whacker plate from your local builders merchants. <£100 all in.
What about one of these puppies?
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[url= http://www.hss.com/g/47627/Mini-Vibrating-Roller-Petrol.html ]http://www.hss.com/g/47627/Mini-Vibrating-Roller-Petrol.html[/url]
Yeah yeah go with stoner! Still think lean mix is better .......
Stoner - whacker plate or a vibrating roller then?????
And do you think this stuff will cut the mustard http://www.building-supplies-online.co.uk/index.asp?404;http://www.building-supplies-online.co.uk:80/mot-type-1-roadstone-aggregate-crushed-limestone-granite-bulk-bag-855kg-133-p.asp?gclid=cjb41mjolawcfrrc4qodn0urlw
(Just trying to find somewhere that will deliver and do the quantity I require).
jeez that's £56 a tonne! 😯
But yeah, that's the stuff.
Check your local builder's merchant cant do a drop off cheaper - Travis Perkins, County, Bradfords, Wickes etc. Maybe do a rough volume calc as well to check that one bag is enough and that it wouldnt make more sense to get 2+ tonnes of loose delivered on a small tipper from a local material's supplier (2 tonnes per cubic metre btw) - my local guy will do Type 1 for about £30 inc VAT a tonne loose 4 tonnes.
Id still go for whacker plate as its got a smaller foot for getting into your hole for when whacking lower levels. Dont forget to cut a decent vertical edge with a pick and shovel and to make sure you get a good mix of fat and fine agg in the hole.