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96 posts & 30 voices | Started 2 years ago by Johnny Panic | Latest reply from ernie_lynch

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Johnny Panic - Member

Cat goes missing Saturday night. He's got an electronic tracker fitted to his collar so Sunday morning I trace the signal to a house 8 or 9 doors up the road. Don't know them & they're not in. Next door neighbour says they're away, not sure for how long but she's left a message on their mobile No.

Their house has a catflap (they have no cat though) and the tracker definitely thinks he's in there, but no sight of him and no response.

Either he's had an accident, crawled in there and can't move much, or he's died in there, or he's somehow locked in a room in there or he's elsewhere but lost his collar in there.

Left a note through the door. It's early Mon Morning now & neighbours not back so do the Police / RSPCA etc have any right of entry ?
What do I do...
(we will be ringing the Police in the morning)

Posted 2 years ago #
samuri - Member

open catflap, call cat. Take cats favourite food with you, wave enticingly at the open catflap. If the house has soft warm places and lady cats, he might take a while.

I wouldn't panic though. Cats go missing for days on end, it's what they do. I know if tiggy went missing I wouldn't start worrying until she'd been gone a week. Chances are your cat goes there all the time but comes back regular when the owners come home. Now they're out for a while, he's having a nice rest/shag/eat.

Posted 2 years ago #
ernie_lynch - Member

Either he's had an accident, crawled in there and can't move much, or he's died in there

Highly unlikely imo. Cats if mortally injured or very ill, will do whatever they can to get back to their own home to die. It certainly wouldn't want to go into a strange house.

Unlikely too imo, although not impossible, is that it's locked itself in a room. A bit more likely is that the cat flap is set to allow the cat in, but not out. If that's the case, prop it open with a stick or something.

Posted 2 years ago #
Johnny Panic - Member

I guess I'm being pessimistic because their garden backs onto a busy road & this time last year he was lucky to keep his leg after a collision with a car.

I've called through the catflap but no answer. He has no trouble getting out of our catflap when it's on in only. I'll try propping it with a stick though, and a rattly box of snacks. Cheers guys.

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

Just keep monitoring his location and calling him, maybe get a ladder and see if you can spot him in other windows if neighbours are aware you're not a cat burglar. Are you sure the tracker is correct, it's my experience that happy homey cats rarely run off for days unless there's a stress in their home (new cat, or moved home). Maybe he has shed his collar (ours used to get them off all the time) and it has been found and is in the house?

That said, cat I know of recently dissappeared for 2 days, turned out he'd chased a mouse into a neighbours house and was stuck under their kitchen cupboards unable to find his way out.

I don't think you have any right of access in any way, but if you break in be prepared to pay for the repairs and leave the house as you found it with a sorry note to the owners!

Posted 2 years ago #
Keva - Member

cats can survive for a long time on their own. One of mine went missing for three weeks once, got a bit concerned after several days had gone by. I eventually found him down the road where I used to live, I'd recently moved, kept cat in etc.. but when he got chance he went back. He was a bit bedraggled and thin but other than that fine.

Kev

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

cats can survive for a long time on their own.

If they have a source of water. Not if they're locked in a house or trapped in a cupboard, it's a fair concern.

Posted 2 years ago #
rootes1 - Member

worth calling the RSPCA and see if they can help?

Posted 2 years ago #
Keva - Member

yes coffeeking, obviously. but since the cat has not been seen in the house suggests he might not actually be in there. Of course he's concerened for his cat, I was just trying to put the guy at ease a little bit.

Kev

Posted 2 years ago #
hels - Member

If it was my cat I suspect I would be breaking into the house and dealing with the consequences later, but I am totally soft about my cat. I would understand if somebody did it to me ! Put some food and water just inside the cat flap just in case.

And let us know what happens !

Posted 2 years ago #
gonefishin - Member

I'm sorry but breaking into someone's house for a cat is well out of order. I can understand that it's upsetting when a pet is missing but it's not an excuse for breaking the law.

Posted 2 years ago #
hels - Member

I am aware of that - but I think I could live with the guilt - much better than I could if the cat died because I was worried about minor and reparable damage to somebody's house.

Have broken into my own house many times without causing any damage.

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

I'm sorry but breaking into someone's house for a cat is well out of order. I can understand that it's upsetting when a pet is missing but it's not an excuse for breaking the law.

Not if the cat is trapped/harmed. Hardly the end of the world to crack a small pane of glass and gain entry, then pay for the replacement. If someone *didn't* do that for their pet stuck in my home, for the sake of possibly offending me, I'd be more worried about them.

Posted 2 years ago #
gonefishin - Member

Frankly if anyone did that to my house for a cat, or any other pet for that matter, they'd be paying for all the costs including all conseqential damage as well as answering to the police.

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

Frankly if anyone did that to my house for a cat, or any other pet for that matter, they'd be paying for all the costs including all conseqential damage

That was already covered and accepted.

as well as answering to the police.

I suspect the police would rather you didn't bother for the sake of an obvious mercy mission in which all damages were already willingly paid for and repaired. But some people like wasting police time.

Posted 2 years ago #
hels - Member

Och well if minor damage to property is more important to you than a loved pet then thats fine for you. I would rather somebody broke into my house than let their cat die any day. Lets hope it doesn't come to that.

Out of interest - what if it was a dog ? A small child ? The house was on fire ? At what point would it be OK for somebody to break a wee pane of glass in your precious house ?? Assuming they even need to - I have got into my own house using a wire coat hanger, and another house with the plastic milk bottle (empty) trick. I might be in your house right now typing this - and I'm about to wee on your bed...

OK I'm being silly now - but please rescue your cat !

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

I suspect gonefishin isn't an animal person

Posted 2 years ago #
hora - Member

Are the people who own that house Chinese?

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

Johnny Panic moves to red-level panic.

Posted 2 years ago #
thegreatape - Member

The police won't break into someone's house for a cat.

They might lock you up for doing it yourself though.

Hope your cat's ok.

Posted 2 years ago #
gonefishin - Member

But some people like wasting police time

and some people have respect for the property of others.

what if it was a dog ?

Nope that wouldn't be acceptable either.

A small child ?

A child is not a pet, although I'd probably still be calling someone as the parenting is clearly amiss somewhere if the child in question is allowed to crawl through the catflap of another persons house.

The house was on fire ?

The fire brigade might be the best bet in this instance as rushing into a buring building to save something or someone will almost certainly end badly for you.

I like animals well enough, although I am alergic to cats, I just don't hold to the thought that somehow person A's pet is more important than person B's property.

Posted 2 years ago #
mudshark - Member

Send in a small dog to chase it out - cover all exits with a net.

Posted 2 years ago #
deadlydarcy - Member

Property is just bricks and mortar and expensive **** gadgets. People aren't suggesting breaking the bloody door down and ransacking the house.

Though, I'd want to be sure the cat was in there...

Posted 2 years ago #
IanMunro - Member

I might be in your house right now typing this - and I'm about to wee on your bed...

That was you!??
Thank **** for that. I thought the damp patch meant I'd have to start buying tenna pants.

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

I just don't hold to the thought that somehow person A's pet is more important than person B's property.

Well while I'm all for respecting peoples property, I'd put life before property any day. But not everyone does, clearly.

Posted 2 years ago #
dmiller - Member

hora - Member

Are the people who own that house Chinese?

Your a very bad man...

Posted 2 years ago #
molgrips - Member

Imagine if you came home to find your house had been broken into just to sort out someone's errant bloody moggy. I'd certainly be pissed off.

You couldn't break into our house without causing significant damage, AND leaving it wide open for further burglars to walk in and help themselves. That is the reason I'd be very bloody annoyed indeed. How exactly would you secure the property again afterwards?

And I'm a cat owner.

Posted 2 years ago #
mudshark - Member

Breaking in should be done with someone who knows the owner - hopefully a neighbour would agree. How much is the cat worth to you? As long as you'll repair the damage and have someone with you who know's the owner should be OK in the circumstances - though best find out if they're a friendly sort or they could get a bit aggressive....

Posted 2 years ago #
Lummox - Member

Worth speaking to fire service, one of our roles is to 'render humanitarian services' so if you can prove the cat is in there enough I reckon you might be able to get someone in uniform to do it. Perhaps

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

You couldn't break into our house without causing significant damage, AND leaving it wide open for further burglars to walk in and help themselves. That is the reason I'd be very bloody annoyed indeed. How exactly would you secure the property again afterwards?

That's not really in question though is it, it has been covered by the owner willing to pay for repairs and re-securing the property, whatever that takes. One would assume they would not just smash a window and selotape some paper over it, leaving a fiver as compensation

Posted 2 years ago #
gonefishin - Member

Well while I'm all for respecting peoples property, I'd put life before property any day. But not everyone does, clearly.

So you value an animal life above property but will happily advocate killing an animal once it's "useful" life has passed.

coffeeking - Member
Tis nature at the end of the day, sad, but saves you wringing their necks when they stop laying I suppose.

Tell me, the cognative dissonance, does it hurt?

Posted 2 years ago #
molgrips - Member

Actually - try knocking on their neighbours' doors - someone will likely have a key.

Posted 2 years ago #
coffeeking - Member

Tell me, the cognative dissonance, does it hurt?

FWIW I don't advocate killing the animal at all. It's the very reason I wouldn't keep chickens myself.

Actually - try knocking on their neighbours' doors - someone will likely have a key.

would be the sane first answer

Posted 2 years ago #
hora - Member

Break who in..the cat? Saddle and stirrups?

Or you could always kick your neighbours backdoors in?

Posted 2 years ago #
samuri - Member

What a bizarre thread this has turned into.

I'm confident that if someone broke into my house to retrieve a cat, the police certainly wouldn't see it as a waste of their time if I demanded they were arrested for it and I'm with the chap above, if someone did do this I wouldn't hesitate to call the police. I don't care if they offered to pay for the damage. And yes, I'm an animal person.

There's at least one specific crime to cover this, breaking and entering, possibly trespass too. And then they had to convince you all that a)They had good cause and b) They've not nicked anything/**** into your underwear drawer. It's one of the craziest things I've heard of on here.

Imagine coming home to find someone in your house cooing "here kitty kitty" under your bed? You'd own 'em, bomber style.

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