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  • Bullshit that has become true through repetition
  • konabunny
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    Someone on the “defence spending review thread” said

    It’s just one of those things where someone’s bullshit has become the accepted truth because it’s repeated so often and because so many articles are just cut-n-pastes.

    I came across two examples of this sort of thing recently.

    1) Max Moseley like Nazi S&M

    This was the NoTW’s claim. It was complete sexy bullshit, as they well knew. Interestingly, it’s sexy bullshit that the High Court ruled on: http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2008/1777.html&query=Mosley+and+nazi+and+sex&method=boolean

    . I found that there was no evidence that the gathering on 28 March 2008 was intended to be an enactment of Nazi behaviour or adoption of any of its attitudes. Nor was it in fact. I see no genuine basis at all for the suggestion that the participants mocked the victims of the Holocaust.
    There was bondage, beating and domination which seem to be typical of S and M behaviour. But there was no public interest or other justification for the clandestine recording, for the publication of the resulting information and still photographs, or for the placing of the video extracts on the News of the World website

    If you’ve ever wanted to find out what the best language for sexy times is, well, the court has considered that too.

    2) Jean Charles de Menezes jumped the tube barrier and ran towards a train before he was killed by police

    This was also complete bullshit, yet spread by many still today: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jean_Charles_de_Menezes

    Most likely spread by the Met.

    What is your favourite thing that is bullshit that is treated like the truth?

    jimjam
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    Religion.

    Shackleton
    Full Member

    Thatcher’s economic miracle?

    TurnerGuy
    Free Member

    pre-2012 Turner 5-spots had a HA that was too steep…

    religion

    jivehoneyjive
    Free Member

    Where to begin…

    garage-dweller
    Full Member

    Well clearly….

    All cyclists are red light jumping, pavement riding, horse terrorising, unlit, ninja attired sociopaths.

    Vehicle excise duty is called road tax and pays entirely for roads so if you don’t pay road tax you can **** off (even if your road tax is on a car that’s parked on the drive and you happen to be easing congestion by riding your bike).

    Law abiding driver.

    wanmankylung
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    Gideon Osborne knows what he’s doing.

    wordnumb
    Free Member

    Tapered steerers.

    mattyfez
    Full Member

    Neuro linguistic programming.. You’d be surprised just what people will believe if fed the same information from as little as three or more seemingly seperate mediums, such as a friend talking, a news article and a Facebook post.. The brain just accepts it as truth on a sub conscious level.

    wrightyson
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    You can have too much fall on foul drainage so that solids get left behind. Utter shit literally!

    beefheart
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    Religion

    End of thread right there.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Neuro linguistic programming.. You’d be surprised just what people will believe if fed the same information from as little as three or more seemingly seperate mediums, such as a friend talking, a news article and a Facebook post.. The brain just accepts it as truth on a sub conscious level.

    That’s what THEY want you to think. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

    konabunny
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    All cyclists are red light jumping, pavement riding, horse terrorising, unlit, ninja attired sociopaths.

    That’s just hyperbole.

    I’m talking about things which people claim are factually true, get picked up as the consensus, yet which are demonstrably factually false.

    SaxonRider
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    religion

    I’m not suggesting for one minute that you have to believe it, HOWEVER…

    there is a slight difference between an enterprise which thousands of civilisation’s brightest philosophers and other thinkers have set their minds to exploring and explicating, and whether or not JCdM jumped a barrier along with other urban legends.

    Northwind
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    The tories can be trusted with the economy

    aracer
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    Mountain bikers wanted demanded 650B 😈

    poah
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    i before e

    aracer
    Free Member

    Strava is worthless because lots of people cheat

    beefheart
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    That’s what THEY want you to think. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

    Holy shit, I don’t know what to think anymore…

    thomthumb
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    You eat spiders in your sleep.

    Spin
    Free Member

    Don’t think you’re doing to get the kind of answers you were looking for Konabunny.

    Are your examples just what we might call urban myth?

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Holy shit, I don’t know what to think anymore…

    I will tell you what to think. While you sleep.

    bearnecessities
    Full Member

    EDIT: Nah, best not.

    P-Jay
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    Donald Trump is some kind of business genius – people often quite his “if it appreciates buy it, if it depreciates lease it” mantra, but it’s nonsense as a one-size-fits-all rule.

    Truth is he’s a serial bankrupt who’d be much richer today if he simply took the fortune he inherited from his father and but it in a bank with an interest rate above inflation.

    aracer
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    That “rule” is so counterfeit, and there’s not even any science to the “except after c” modifier.

    konabunny
    Free Member

    Are your examples just what we might call urban myth?

    No, urban myths are archetypes and morality plays about fictional people presented as fact. My examples are deliberate lies that gained current through repetition and almost became true.

    beefheart
    Free Member

    Holy shit, I don’t know what to think anymore…
    I will tell you what to think. While you sleep.

    I’m a heavy sleeper, you’ll have to shout. 😀

    footflaps
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    Where to start? Just about anything from Conservative Central Office e.g.

    Labour / Gordon Brown caused the last global slump by over spending.

    All benefit claimants are feckless scum

    All disabled people are also feckless scum

    Starving the poor is good for them

    Benefit sanctions work

    Prison works

    All Muslims are terrorists

    Jeremy Corbyn is a threat to national security.

    bedmaker
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    The lightest bike is the best bike.

    MrSmith
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    Lance was clean

    deadlydarcy
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    Quite a few things about the Hillsborough disaster.

    trail_rat
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    a windscreen will shatter if you use slightly warm water to defrost them,….

    chewkw
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    JC is overrated as the new messiah as everyone claims him to be. 😆

    I want wine! Why you … good wine. Free wine!

    See … told you he cannot make good wine.

    No wine? No vote.

    Now … where are all the tonnes of fish he promised …

    Northwind
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    footflaps – Member

    Jeremy Corbyn is a threat to national security.

    Specifically for Corbyn- Jeremy Corbyn is friends with terrorists, and Jeremy Corbyn things it’s a tragedy that Osama Bin Laden is dead. The best lies have just a little bit of truth in them.

    jimmy
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    Christmas. Every **** year.

    jimdubleyou
    Full Member

    The Labour Party actually gives a shit about people.

    HoratioHufnagel
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    Putting a teaspoon in the top of an open champagne/preseco/fizzy wine bottle keeps the fizz in.

    Nobeerinthefridge
    Free Member

    Fairy liquid corrodes yer bike
    Tubeless is a faff
    Enduro ain’t proper racing, it’s just riding with mates
    The premier league is the best in the world…..

    outofbreath
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    The bloke out of Red Dwarf who was on Robot Wars was convicted of rape.

    He wasn’t.

    When he came up in conversation a week or so back everyone on our table thought he had been until we googled.

    bearnecessities
    Full Member

    I fitted his sky many years ago. I pooped in his bog 🙂

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