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  • 350+ lashes for the Brit in Saudi Arabia
  • bencooper
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    I was listening to a Tory MP defending the sentence on the radio this morning

    But then I suppose 350 lashes is the kind of thing he’d have to pay damn good money for

    Or maybe because the Tories signed a deal which has our MoJ helping out the Saudi prison system:

    http://jackofkent.com/2015/10/michael-gove-picks-a-fight-over-the-mojs-saudi-contract-bid-the-background/

    Human rights aren’t a priority any more, remember – we’ll kiss the arse of any brutal regime as long as they have money.

    atlaz
    Free Member

    Isn’t alcohol linked with gout?

    It’s a minor contributor to getting gout. Apparently most of the cause is genetic predisposition but the stereotypical lifestyle we associate with it doesn’t help much

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    That Cameron interview (FB link above) is pretty pathetic.

    Cameron essentially says “Oh yes we are very clear that we don’t agree with floggings, beheadings and crucifixions. But we still backed their application to join the human rights council. Because terrorism.” 😐

    GrahamS
    Full Member

    Human rights aren’t a priority any more, remember – we’ll kiss the arse of any brutal regime as long as they have money.

    Don’t forget that this is the party that is still keen to abolish the Human Rights Act in the UK, because it doesn’t like being held to account by international human rights conventions. 😐

    Tom_W1987
    Free Member

    Not suprising coming from a country that still pretty much covertly partakes in medieval practices from slavery to other more overt practices such as public beheadings and stampeding each other to death in religious fevours – culminating with the icing on the cake…. how they treat women.

    Stoner
    Free Member

    Or maybe because the Tories signed a deal which has our MoJ helping out the Saudi prison system:

    http://jackofkent.com/2015/10/michael-gove-picks-a-fight-over-the-mojs-saudi-contract-bid-the-background/

    Human rights aren’t a priority any more, remember – we’ll kiss the arse of any brutal regime as long as they have money.

    for “signed a deal” read, were in negotiations…

    moot now.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1568417/saudi-deal-dropped-as-briton-faces-lashes

    those nasty tories.

    bencooper
    Free Member

    Yup, deal now dropped after pressure from people who spotted it. Which is a good thing.

    I don’t think you can really give the Tories much credit for not going ahead with a dodgy deal they started.

    jimjam
    Free Member

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