and thus the arguing begins… I can’t even be bothered playing logical fallacy bingo this time

[closes thread]

The Lyon version of the Mediterranean diet meanwhile has saved lives, reduced peoples dependence on medication, reduced their cancer risk and provides them with a healthy framework for eating enjoyable food that won’t leave them painfully farting their way through the day.

do you have a reference for the reduction of cancer risk and reduction of dependence on medication? The abstract of the Lyon study does not include the words cancer or medication. So far as I can see it looked only at CV events.

The results of the trial look initially impressive but it’s not without weaknesses:
“In addition, dietary data are reported for only 83 (of 303 randomized into the study) and 144 (of 302 randomized into the study) subjects in the control and experimental groups, respectively. With only 30% of the total control cohort and <50% of the total experimental group providing dietary data at the conclusion of the study, the diet of the other subjects who completed the study is not known. This raises questions about the role of diet in accounting for the results reported for recurrent coronary events.”

the other descents I really like in that area are the switchbacks into Youlgreave and a cheeky one in the woods above Beeley. The whole area makes a nice change from the dark peak.

mtbel – Member

I wouldn’t attempt. I’d achieve.

I want this on a motivational poster for the office. Preferably with a picture of someone (Yoda, maybe?) hucking off a huge cliff on a child’s bike. Can any of the photoshop gurus oblige? [mourns the absence of Jamie]

when I got lost and briefly turned on google maps I knew it was going to be expensive but it was *really* expensive. Can’t remember details but I won’t be doing it again.

[unhelpful] Except for when I’m in a 3 “feel at home” country that is 8) [/unhelpful]

I thought GW and mtbel were one and the same? There can’t be two riders with that superhuman level of skill can there?

I think you’ll find I took the balance of advice given within the 5 min window that I had. Well done 10/10

can I flounce now? love a good flounce

so it’s our fault you created the bastard offspring of a risotto and a rice pudding 😀

enjoy your flounce

In summary: STW points gained for asking a question and then ignoring the advice given, and for ensuring that pudding could not be withheld by incorporating it into the main course, but points lost for lack of flouncing when told not to put the cream in 7.5/10

Just cos he’s not yet 16 doesn’t mean he’ll keep growing – I never did grow into my 14th birthday present bike 🙁 – but size 12 feet suggest he’s either destined to be a clown or going to be tall.

I’d go for a bigger bike. Watch out that swapping parts over can be more expensive than you think, eg if seatpost diameter is different.

Didn’t we agree some time ago that taking a no2 down the chimney was the new bombers? maybe pushed into the door keyhole in this case though.

he could be really old skool about it and wee in her shoes

I can confirm the paper copy (thudded onto the doormat an hour ago) is on smelly paper

and it’s a good dangerous to dogs weight

I second the different ranges from same manufacturer comment. Most of them assume that people wanting racing kit will be skinny while MTBers or commuters will be better nourished. DHB sizing generally seems generous (realistic), especially compared to Castelli. Also bear in mind that if it’s race kit it’s *meant* to be skin tight.

I got one of these

Never really understood why anyone goes for Photochromic lenses for mtb’ing when they take a while to change

I have rudy project photochromics and they change pretty quick. I think they’re fantastic (YMMV obviously).

thekingisdead – Member

Most of it is wasted on things like the NHS, schools and pensions.

I don’t think money spent on any of those things is a waste.
Money spent on subsidising low wages through tax credits however……

I wasn’t being entirely serious. If the money is used inefficiently it can be wasted, but those are all things that I think are in principle a good use of my taxes. Probably should have put some speech marks round “wasted”.

while I agree MP’s expenses are a disgrace, I’m pretty sure they’re not the primary expenditure from the big tax pot. Most of it is wasted on things like the NHS, schools and pensions.

that’s just you, hora. not all of us spend our lives fighting off amorous women

You did read binners post properly didn’t you.

Do you remember the first rule of STW Club? Do not under any circumstances read the whole of the OP before posting.

I’ve got the 810. Very happy with it but I’ve not tried any others to compare. Lots of very very detailed reviews on here[/url]

thanks, all. I don’t do much manual work and would reckon to take the watch off for sport but I’m happy to hear the answer is get on with it and accept signs of wear. To be honest, the owner is not box fresh himself…

A question for those of you with good watches: do you actually wear them every day (or most days)?

It’s a genuine question. I’m intending to buy a watch (insurance payout) and don’t want to buy something that sits in a drawer and only comes out to be fondled occasionally. I’ve never had anything much more expensive than a swatch before.

and if I did ring in I’d expect the reception staff to have some kind of sense to tell you absolutely cock all what was wrong with me just like you’d expect the doctor not to tell anyone else what was wrong with you.

surely it’s not breaching medical confidentiality to say “the doctor is not coming in today”? That reception sounds shambolic.

can you send it round here next? Ta

nothing to add beyond what’s been said already – go and try them on and see what they’re like to hang in

unless you want the ludicrous suggestion of a whillans harness 👿

Pie week! 😮

it may be time to visit the farm shop and make another game pie

I remember your thread about losing your licence. That’s excellent news you’re back on the road

RaveyDavey – that’s reassuring. It didn’t seem right that all these people with expensive watches went around with one arm stinking

I can tell you that in 4th year at school when doing cross country running for PE in the depths of winter, hailstones skelping off your thighs are bloody sore.

it was bloody sore having them bounce off my face yesterday morning come to that

I’ve never heard of pork crunch. Are you saying it has the heavenly piggy taste of scratchings without the ensuing need for emergency dentistry?

*drools*

EDIT: look what I just found!!!!

cow girl or girl cow?

maybe on itv player? far, far too slow

Is there going to be a happy ending to this thread?

probably a happy finish for someone 😈

have you actually heard it or just basing the rave review on reading a website?

EDIT: in the time I was typing it appears we do have someone who’s heard it. the question was to the OP

So either you’ve been looking at that sort of thing in the past or you are dyslexic Googling for “handlebars”

or candelabras

*tries to decide whether to play advert lottery*

heads or tails
handbra or towel rail

hmmmm… is it worth the risk?

bikerbruce – we’ve done this to death.

Possible explanations are:
– they did a minimal finger twitch or imperceptible nod that you didn’t see
– they were so far in the zone they didn’t even see you
– they were ignorant ****
– they think you’re a ****

HTH

EDIT: why can’t we have the right number of asterisks? I’m using the same word twice but as a plural the first time and it offends my pedantry to have only 4 asterisks instead of 5 😡

I’ve been trying pilates (recommended by someone I climb with who said it fixed her recurrent back issues). Many of the exercises are familiar from physio sessions. A class seems essential to make sure you’re not “cheating” by using the wrong muscles. It’s not a magic wand but does seem to help, and would probably help more if I practised more between classes.

If I hadn’t been so idle today I would have been caught in it too. for once I’m glad I was lazy.

ahwiles – the risk for Clegg is that the students organize themselves to vote en masse for someone else. There’s also a lot of other people who are unhappy that they voted Clegg and got Cameron. They wouldn’t all have put Tory as their second choice. I think he’ll survive but 7th May will be squeaky bum time for him and he won’t have the majority he did in the past.