[Closed] What good things could come from this virus

Stop the trade of live animals in the wet markets.

Well I’ve got a stack of paperwork to catch up on and I haven’t watched the Sopranos yet

Wet Market is my bedroom safe word.

Good things?
Make our government grow up and stop playing around
Make people be more self sufficient
Societal changes to help end people living paycheck to paycheck
Normalisation of homeworking and reduction in rush hour traffic

Maybe... We'll see

Less Tory voters?

The absolute rejection of anything these bastards are planning for the NHS and the welfare state. When we see what’s about to happen in the states I think finally we’ll realise that we have to act

Employers will get to see that lots of people can be trusted to work from home and still be productive.

The wholesale abandonment by the government of the elderly Will solve the pensions and housing crises at a stroke

Less Tory voters?

Fewer? Anyway, I’d happily support this.

Employers will get to see that lots of people can be trusted to work from home and still be productive.

This is absolutely a positive. The UK needs to accept that workers can be trusted, we are not in t’mill anymore and we don’t need nannying nor bullying.

And positively helps mental and physical health, cuts down on pointless commuting and simplifies the UK age old transportation “system”

This is absolutely a positive.

Only if people don’t bollocks it up by spending a week watching the Sopranos instead of working

Employers will get to see that lots of people can be trusted to work from home and still be productive.

This will hopefully come about at our place.

Also, zombies. Part of me wants it to turn into a full on zombie plague, just becuase.

I guess it depends on what happens, and whether our 'government' give the public the opportunity to drive the outcome. We could come out of this with a new sense of community, solidarity and pride at what we achieved, along with a massively amplified sense of empathy and compassion for others who perished or lost people. This will only happen though if the public feel they trusted and involved. If we're reduced to lab rats in some experiement with no power over our futures then the very opposite could happen.

Definitely a change in working behaviour for many jobs.

And the shops will be much quieter as everyone works their way through 50kg of rice and pasta, 10 gallons of uht milk and 6 miles of bog roll.

Very little and it will be swiftly forgotten, as a live issue at least.

Hopefully change behaviours around travel and working from home.

Helped me identify which colleagues and acquaintances are self absorbed bellends. A few surprises, I'll be honest

Immediately come to mind ...

1. Less pollution (carbon footprint whatever).
2. Less activities - places become quiet.
3. Less excitement - everyone stays at home.
4. New communication technology made available to masses - meeting via Skype etc.
5. Less human contact.
6. More realisation that the supply chain must be changed/improved.
7. Less consumption of wild animals, insects (which I hope this include fish stocks (I truly hope so).
8. Stress test to emergency situation (could be a preparation of future zombie apocalypse).
9. New medical technology ...
10. More preppers ... yes, you are not laughing at them now.

I think you could hope that we would reflect on recent events, especially in terms of how animals are kept and abused, the fragility of an economic system which is so interdependent, the real threat of a biological attack given the rapid spread of C19, and the reassess the importance of having a robust, well-staffed and funded health system. Will any of that happen? Not likely - in fact, maybe 'politicians' like Farage, Trump etc. will use this to further scapegoat and demonize certain groups to further their isolationist agenda, while using the threat of future pandemics to erode civil liberties. By far the scariest fact for me is how this system which we've built up can be knocked off balance so quickly.

Employers will get to see that lots of people can be trusted to work from home and still be productive.

I hate WFH as I just get distracted by domestic chores e.g. today I did the washing, sewed up some holes in the wires ski trousers, went and collected a prescription, fiddled with the garden watering system, etc etc.

Luckily I'm back in the office next week.

More films on telly. No Football! for a while.

For once Chewie I agree with most of that.

Not sure about supply chains being changed/improved - the cost of transporting goods compared to the value of the actual goods these days is a fraction of what it used to be.

As for preppers, well the sooner they head off to the woods on some remote island ... 😊

@fatmountain - I was going to say the realisation that "our" economy and therefore society is just part of a global one and that isolationism isn't helpful to any part of that.

A growing sense that “I’m alright Jack so **** everyone else” is not a dignified national-level ethos. Although judging by the panic buying cretins, I may be disappointed.

Hopefully people will come to realise that being force fed lies that are tailored to their existing prejudices is a bad thing and they should think for themselves.

6. More realisation that the supply chain must be changed/improved.

What it needs is people not to panic-buy then there wouldn't be a problem.

Oh, and hopefully a realisation that endless economic growth is, ultimately, a ****ing insane thing to work towards.

Dirty bastards might start washing their hands by habit.

I might get round to playing some Red Dead Redemption 2 and finally finish sorting through the 10’s of thousands of photos I have on my PC.

What it needs is people not to panic-buy then there wouldn’t be a problem.

Panic buy is not that of a problem but being supplied from overseas etc, yes.
UK might be business as usual but the overseas counterparts might simply stop all. If you depend on them entirely you are screwed. All eggs in one basket etc.

Also I really feel that part of the ocean should be off limit to ALL countries where fishing is concerned. I really do. There should be an ocean zone in the world that is off limit to all fishing. Catching smaller fish such as sardines etc should be restricted or ban in certain time of the year. No small fish no big fish/mammals etc.

Just like in the far east there are certain trends that people start to compete with animals in food consumption. i.e. consuming insects that should be left to animals.

I was in a night market where plenty of insects are sold as food. Fair enough if they grown the insects themselves but taking them from the wild and Not putting some back is a selfish act that will only deplete animal food source. Think about it. There are certain food that is not meant for human but for animals only.

Me and father (his ancestral town) was visiting local night market and I was trying to try some insects until my father told me that the insects were for the animals, and we should leave some food to the animals and not take all. I realised at that time a simpleton like my father knew more than me. We should not compete with animals for food.

I have no sympathy if the virus originated from animals, insects etc as I think they have evolved defensive mechanism to protect themselves from extinction. They cannot fight human but their virus come to their protection as the virus need to live in the animal. Killed the animals, you "killed" the virus but not before they "wipe out" a big chunk of human beings. I suspect the future virus will be million times strong ... zombie virus.

I fear that it will be for the most part very much be this:

Very little and it will be swiftly forgotten, as a live issue at least.

But.... if lots die then a large shift in wealth from the boomer generation to millenials in the form of housing and cash.

A possible move away from business get togethers and needless conferences. (there is only one job that hasn't had a red line drawn through it on the calendar and that's because it'll be live steamed to the 1500 attendees, who are not attending.)

Shorter, localised supply chains.

A further drop of house prices in Italy as the market gets flooded further with properties.

Shorter, localised supply chains.

This 👆

Shorter, localised supply chains.

Yes please.
From fruit and veg to furniture, building materials, cars, everything.

Thankfully we've made a decision to work more closely with our near neighbours on this. Oh. Wait.

Some folk will get to know their elderly relatives a lot better when they are washing them as the social care system won't cope.

Thankfully we’ve made a decision to work more closely with our near neighbours on this. Oh. Wait.

Yeah, but one of the mainstays of the brave new world is going be an awesome trading agreement with.....err..... Australia!

Okay for certain products and I'm totally for it but it down to what the consumers want, and where it's produced or grown. Unfortunately its never going to be practical or possible to have everything local.

The end of anti-vaxers

Less Tory voters?

That is an awful thing to say and you should be ashamed. It is "fewer Tory voters"

Employers will get to see that lots of people can be trusted to work from home and still be productive.

I can't stand Christmas.

I'm reckoning this year's one will be a lot more tolerable if most people are indoors due to covid hitting again.

Yeah, that and anti vaxers being shown to be dangerous charlatans.

What I’d like to see, but I won’t hold my breath:
More respect and better pay for nursing staff and other health staff.
Less interest in the rich and super rich, who swan off when the going gets tough and leave others to fend for the vulnerable in our society.
A better work life balance, where families can look after their children if needs be and not be a slave to work.
People realising that there are plenty of wonderful places nearby and not travelling everywhere all the time to go on holiday. Maybe then investing their time locally to improve their communities and local areas.

Less interest in the rich and super rich, who swan off when the going gets tough and leave others to fend for the vulnerable in our society.

I’d recommend more, much more interest in them. That should hopefully enable moves towards.....

A better work life balance, where families can look after their children if needs be and not be a slave to work.

The tax-dodging, bonus-pocketing (even when the companies they are running are going down the shitter), disdainful opportunists who just happened to land on their feet due to luck or school tie or silver spoon need hounding.

Indeed, I guess I meant less fawning over the rich.

-Hopefully a massive boost to the NHS wrt the resources it needs for the next wave, and not used as a political bargaining chip.
-A realization that modern society isn't as robust and advanced as we humans think it is, society is a fragile concept...

But i suspect that in reality little will be learned once this crisis has blown over :0(

But i suspect that in reality little will be learned once this crisis has blown over :0(

I suspect this too....

Standard reaction having got away with a close shave.....?

Have a mega piss-up, wake up with a hangover, forget all about what it was we were celebrating then get up on Monday morning and start arseholing along as before.

Charles is 71 and Eizabeth 93. That'd be a start.

Yeah, but one of the mainstays of the brave new world is going be an awesome trading agreement with…..err….. Australia!

You're forgetting fiji and Papua new ginuea!

More respect and better pay for nursing staff and other health staff.

We were discussing this earlier... If all the bankers, brokers, lawyers, footballers, designers, artists were to go on strike for a month life would continue happily. If it were the nurses, doctors, teachers, and other service workers were to walk for a week society would be crippled.

Dirty bastards might start washing their hands by habit.

Actually that might be the one lasting legacy.

I've learned that sneezing into your sleeve is actually pretty nice if you're wearing a big comfy jumper.

I’ve learned that sneezing into your sleeve is actually pretty nice if you’re wearing a big comfy jumper.

But rubbish when you forget you're wearing a polo shirt...😳