[Closed] The "Edinburgh Defence"

What a crap thread.

Only joking.

I imagine he's doing just fine, I'd rather take 100's of T-J's than put up with some of the other ignorant ****wits who have filled the void on the forum.

Like you somafunk?

Only joking somafunk.

Lolz at DD

Only joking DD.

You know how I insinuated you were a gobshite on the rugby thread Tom B?

I was only joking.

I personally think it was just another way that the forum and the mods let the bullies bully him.
It was done to mock him

He was many things but he was sincere and he brought something to the table.

he is doing fine
Not joking on either point.

Damn it….DD has outed me - you arguing eh?…….. 😀

Yeah, come on if you think you're ****ing hard enough. 😮

Only joking.

I'd echo the points already made; TJ is an all round good fella. Baiting him became an ugly 'sport'...

Baiting him became an ugly 'sport'...

There are some masters on here.

This is no joke!

As TJ pointed out himself on many an occasion, he wouldn't, or couldn't "let it lie"

Yes he was baited on occasion, but no more than any other 'big hitters' on here who set themselves up for it. He's a adult and he knew what he was doing.

being opinionated doesn't get you banned

indeed it is having the wrong opinion

Humph!….well that fizzled out rather quickly didn't it?, i was all set up for a proper rumble but i just can't be arsed anymore….ho-hum.

only joking

You're joking aren't you? 😯

I thought the bullying of TJ was great..

It made it really easy to spot the messed up, spiteful and vindictive little herberts of the forum that would clamour together in a baying pack, wagging their tales furiously and crawling over one another to lick each others balls

Disagree TJ was bullied badly and the main culprit IMO is still here yeah tha would be you Al.

yunki now im trying to picture that in my head and i now cannot sleep. i always slope off when things get tasty never having a proper education i normally say fxxkxxt and walk off but TJ would stay there till the end death by honour and all that.

I liked TJ. Being able to be so unremittingly positive about Scottish rugby was amazing to me.

he was recently banned from a rugby forum for arguing 8)

he cannot help himself and he knows it but folk did goad him

That was the sort of bullying he got

Well played

/prune

Do adults really take the Internet and what random strangers who have a different opinion say on it that seriously? To the extent that they are being bullied? I can understand the weak minded taking things to heart or the vulnerable and needy perhaps being offended by bad language/sexism/racism but for somebody to actually get wound up that it actually affects their day to day lives? 😯

I did have an now banned STW member mail me once as he took umbrage at something I posted (didn't read it just junked it) I guess this Internet lark is serious bizness

So now it looks like junkyard is having a go at himself.

Noice.

MrSmith - Member

Do adults really take the Internet and what random strangers who have a different opinion say on it that seriously? To the extent that they are being bullied?

Well yes. Because, you know, the internet is full of real people. Not susprisingly, the people who're the biggest ****s on the internet are also the people who're best at forgetting they're dealing with real people.

I received a few messages from TJ a while ago. He's seems a decent bloke but he let the bullies goad him; he has strong views (which I admit I generally share).

I personally think the use of the phrase "the Edinburgh defence" is somewhat cowardly now as you're taking a pop at someone who cannot defend themselves. 😕

I guess this Internet lark is serious bizness

Yeah it noticed that, they tend to infer that the 'abuser' doesn't have an active life beyond the keyboard or is not what they say they are. I guess that is pretty tragic.

I have always thought that those who use therm "Edinburgh Defence" misunderstood TJ.

TJ enjoyed humour, he just wasn't particularly good at it, and because he was often rather serious when discussing issues close to his heart people often misunderstood him to be serious when he was actually joking.

I recall occasions when it was clear to me that TJ was only joking but many took him as being serious. Unfortunately TJ usually reacted by pointing out that he had been joking, something which I personally would only do in extreme circumstance - it amusing me greatly when people assume I'm being serious, and more so the more ridiculous it is.

TJ's unfortunate need to explain his own jokes and that he was joking was interpreted by many as him back-tracking and making false claims.

He never appreciated that taking the piss works best when people take you seriously.

[quote=ernie_lynch ]I recall occasions when it was clear to me that TJ was only joking but many took him as being serious. The irony is that his "fall out" with cynic-al was because he couldn't recognise this same behaviour in others. 😆

He was many things but he was sincere and he brought something to the table

x 1000

Principled and articulate whether you agreed with him or not, STW is the worse for his absence.

Our loss is his gain

Don't agree Onion/druidh, Al was a dick. Not any more, but he definitely came across like that in the Aziz/fred/elfin days.

Only Joking 🙂

Just another way of trying to haul your way out of the hole you are digging by continuing to argue for no real good reason.

As always the friends of TJ/ain't in crap in here now lot have turned up.

Unrelated to TJ, I do find the "STW is crap" moaners mystifying. Why kee P coming here, never mind posting, if it's so shite?

People still talking about the "good ol' bad ol' days"?
Grim.

Fwiw, some of the aforementioned folk knew each other in the real world. Which is a bit different.

For those wondering how TJ is faring in real life, his dogged unwillingness to yield is proving extremely useful against Edinburgh Council with its ongoing Property Repairs scandal. The level of incompetence and fraud he (and his building co-owners) have been subjected to is breathtaking, and his refusal to give even an inch in the past few years will ultimately be of great benefit to the rest of the people affected. Me included. I have nothing but respect for the man.

Well I could write an essay on this!

The Edinburgh "defence" was no such thing - TJ and I would post stuff up as a laugh not realising folk would take it seriously.

I can accept I was a knob, but the my arguing with TJ was borne of my frustration at him (as his of me I expect).

Yeah but you did goad him mercylessly even when he asked you to stop.