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So... frame pre-order is live...

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FROOBD/on-one-big-dog-29-mountain-bike-frame

Guessing it's going to be similar money for a GX build to the Scandal (£1200 ish), I like the orange.

The last hardtail I bought was a 26er - Persuade me this sort of geometry is going to be ok for heading off into the mountains and hitting natural trails for a few days or should I save some more pennies and go for the titanium Mutsu (£1900)?

Aware that the Bootzipper exists, but I definitely want a suspension fork...


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 2:47 pm
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I'm in a similar position. I bought this a few years ago and I'm wondering/deciding if I want to do a frame/wheel swap or just get the full build.

Looks sexy in orange though doesn't it.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 3:26 pm
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Through axle doesn't come with it?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 4:03 pm
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Through axle doesn’t come with it?

That's correct


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 4:04 pm
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Does it require the 1,5 TPI axle? What length would be best please?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 4:05 pm
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I wondered if this was coming when I saw the axles on the website but no bike to go with them.

How does this work again....BrantBrantBrant, er, Brant?

or long rigid only fork if you want.

How long is long, if it's rigid? I can do 490 in carbon, 530 in aluminium.

How long will the pre-order special price go for?

thanks


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 4:54 pm
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wot, no £100 preorder discount code as per scandal?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 5:06 pm
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Needs at least £100 discount so I can afford the new hub 🙁

Are any of these new frames going to be non-boost for those of us with serviceable but unfashionable parts, Brant or shall I give up hope?!


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 5:22 pm
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@lcj I hear the bootzipper 650b will be 100/142.

But you can just use the boost adapter kit of a rotor spacer and bolts and two 3mm axle spacers to fit your current wheels. PX sell one and loads on eBay.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 5:34 pm
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Thanks wzzz. Hadn't been able to find an adaptor for old hope Pro 2s (non evo) before now, are you talking about this one: https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WSAS12RWBAK6/ashima-142x12mm-6-bolt-rear-hub-to-boost-adaptor-kit

Any idea if that works with pro 2s? If it does then I thank you Wzzz and retract my slightly grumpy comment, Brant!


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 5:48 pm
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Should work so long as the wheel is set up 142x12. You can get a kit for the front too if you get some new boost forks. Bit of a faff if you take the wheels out regularly, maybe a blob of glue or tape at assembly time will stop the axle spacers rolling under the fridge when removing the wheel.

Brant - commission to usual account, ta 😉


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 6:07 pm
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Seriously no pre order discount Brant, are the Steel lovers being discriminated against 😀


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 6:59 pm
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Was interested in this,

...Until I spotted the On-One Current Project page (3/ Ti Inbred 29 Evo - 29er 120mm fork , big tyres)

Hmm. I wonder how long it will be before this project becomes reality?


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 7:54 pm
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I'm guessing that is discounted, since the early word was in would be significantly more costly than the aluminium scandal.


 
Posted : 08/10/2019 9:42 pm
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Also, is it my imagination or is it a straight headtube?


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 2:55 am
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Also, is it my imagination or is it a straight headtube?

Yeah, straight 44mm by the look of it which is nice as it gives plenty of options


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 6:18 am
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why do you have to but the axle separate? Seems very bizarre.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:35 am
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why do you have to but the axle separate? Seems very bizarre.

Ryanair pricing system.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:39 am
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because most people buying a frame will already have one in the frame they're getting rid of ?

But yes... seems weird.


 
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because most people buying a frame will already have one in the frame they’re getting rid of ?

But yes… seems weird.

Won’t fit though in most cases.

Main reason is axles come from different supplier and we aren’t working the stock on arrival to combine.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:45 am
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@weeksy but they are seemingly different lengths and thread tpi for every frame, so you are are always going to need one.

£21 for one when buying a frame is a bit.... RyanAir

Like PX's postage is never free unlike everyone else's.

Expect to have to pay extra for paint and decals as the very last stage at the checkout after entering payment details next week.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:49 am
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Main reason is axles come from different supplier and we aren’t working the stock on arrival to combine.

But you are doing full builds? (Asking because I want one...)


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:52 am
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Fair enough Brant.


 
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Is it just me that can't find the axle? Also am I misremembering or has it gone up by £40 already?


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 3:55 pm
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yeah had one in the basket, axle is now "free" frame is now £275... interesting.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 4:18 pm
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I put a frame and an axle in my basket (£233 + £21) and after giving myself a brief cooling off period, frame is now showing as £275 and description of axle has disappeared but is showing as free. Laurel and Hardy picture still showing.

I'm now struggling to commit as I will feel like I've lost £42

Could Brant Brant Brant please confirm that for the extra £42 I would receive an axle not just a print of aforementioned comedy duo act?


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 4:31 pm
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Don't buy anything yet.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 4:59 pm
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"Don’t buy anything yet."

"They cannot even be bothered to take proper photographs. They'll probably go rusty too. Infact they definitely will. Avoid - Do not buy one."

All this reverse psychology makes my brain hurt.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 7:57 pm
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Don’t buy anything yet.

You are my wife and I claim my 5 pounds


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 8:52 pm
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Pic up on Instagram now


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 9:53 pm
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No. That’s a Bootzipper.
https://www.planetx.co.uk/s?q=Bootzipper

Code UNZIP gets you £200ish off a bike or £100 off a frame.

Big Dog bike and discounts launched tomorrow.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:05 pm
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Cheers Brant I think I need to visit Specsavers 😂


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:21 pm
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BrantBrantBrant - can you give any details on chainring size clearance chainline etc for the big dog.

Also rigid forks - acceptable lengths etc

Cheers.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:29 pm
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Geometries (angles, tube lengths) on the Big Dog (130mm travel fork) and 29er Bootzipper (440mm AC rigid fork) look pretty much identical. What am I missing?


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:30 pm
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Geometries (angles, tube lengths) on the Big Dog (130mm travel fork) and 29er Bootzipper (440mm AC rigid fork) look pretty much identical. What am I missing?

Someone’s messed up the spec csv file.


 
Posted : 09/10/2019 10:39 pm
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Ok. Can't remember, are you offering up a matching fork for the 29" Bootzipper? The 440mm AC figure suggests you could use a suspension corrected 26" fork like the current On-One model - is that right?


 
Posted : 10/10/2019 8:22 am
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Ok. Can’t remember, are you offering up a matching fork for the 29″ Bootzipper? The 440mm AC figure suggests you could use a suspension corrected 26″ fork like the current On-One model – is that right?

The £225 deal with code UNZIP gets you frame, fork, axles.

Yes. It’s a 440 rigid with bosses and a through axle.

I’ll dig out the right geometry when I’ve got my pants on.


 
Posted : 10/10/2019 8:29 am
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(spoiler alert - i have no pants on)


 
Posted : 10/10/2019 8:51 am
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loads of clearance for a 32t chainring even at a 50mm chainline. Boost will move it out. Suspect a 36t might even fit, but not in the spec.


 
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(spoiler alert – i have no pants on)

Thanks for the warning, that had the potential to spoil rather a lot for rather a long time.


 
Posted : 10/10/2019 10:12 am
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Is it safe to order a big dog now then, or more to the point, am I safe to wait until the weekend once SWMBO has had a few glasses of I'm-going-to-be-in-less-trouble?


 
Posted : 10/10/2019 2:05 pm
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Is it safe to order a big dog now then, or more to the point, am I safe to wait until the weekend once SWMBO has had a few glasses of I’m-going-to-be-in-less-trouble?

Frame will be £175 tonight or tomorrow

UPDATE: Code HOTDOG now offers frame at £175

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/FROOBD/on-one-big-dog-29-mountain-bike-frame?deal=HOTDOG


 
Posted : 10/10/2019 2:10 pm
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Whoo hoo.

[mental note] flowers on the way home [/mental note]


 
Posted : 10/10/2019 2:49 pm
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Frame will be £175 tonight or tomorrow

Wait, we only get 2 days to get our affairs in order? The aluminium people got 2 weeks!

Please have pants on please have pants on.


 
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