Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full

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  • Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full
  • IHN
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    All aboard the highway to the danger zone 🙂

    footflaps
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    Much better thread title though….

    and how old does Ed Harris look now!

    cubist
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    Well someones lost that loving feeling

    footflaps
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    Might have to watch the original again at the WE..

    nbt
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    [strong]footflaps[/strong] wrote:

    Might have to watch the original again at the WE..

    I was thinking yesterday, I don’t think I’ve watched the original since I first saw it in the late 80s…

    Premier Icon nixie
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    Love the sonic boom visuals over the river.

    footflaps
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    I was thinking yesterday, I don’t think I’ve watched the original since I first saw it in the late 80s…

    I’ve watched it loads of times over the years, one of the first DVDs I bought…

    An almost perfect movie…

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Will the sequel capture the homoerotic undertones of the original though?

    I see from the trailer it still has half-naked men playing sport, so there is hope.

    Premier Icon LittleNose
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    This this this… can’t believe I’d not heard this was even being thought of, never mind in production.
    Will see if we can have the original as this weeks Saturday night family movie.

    footflaps
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    Will the sequel capture the homoerotic undertones of the original though?

    That must have passed me by the first 50 times I watched it….

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    I really hope it’s not terrible.

    Visuals of the flying look ace, Ed Harris looks older than God and that’s about all I can tell from that trailer!!

    P-Jay
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    That must have passed me by the first 50 times I watched it….

    As did it every straight male kid/teenager who watched it for the dog fights and motorbike chases.

    The volleyball and locker room scenes are basically soft-core porn.

    gonefishin
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    UNDERTONES

    It could barely be more front and centre. Granted I didn’t see that as a child but certainly did as an adult.

    footflaps
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    The volleyball and locker room scenes are basically soft-core porn.

    All I remember from that was thinking how did Val Kilmer manage to spin the ball on the end of his finger and how cool was that. I also remember thinking that if I had a hot date I’d be there on time rather than deciding to play volley ball. Can’t stand tardiness…

    Premier Icon BillOddie
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    Ed Harris looks like a talking testicle.

    Top Gun: Maverick will either be awesome or awful.  Possibly both.

    footflaps
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    Ed Harris looks like a talking testicle.

    Continuing the homo erotic soft porn theme then…..

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    This looks to be as cheesy as the original, fabulous!

    MrSparkle
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    I had a GPz900R. I thought this film was ace!

    I can’t believe the original is 34 year old!

    One of the best films ever.

    Premier Icon Harry_the_Spider
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    The cockpit and flying shots look amazing. I wonder how much is CGI?

    I would assume that they had Tom Cruise in the back of the 2 seat version for a lot of it.

    johnx2
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    . I would assume that they had Tim Cruise in the back of the 2 seat version

    I’d call that overtones.

    scuttler
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    F14 at the end plane freaks.

    Is that for when the impending cyber attack downs the robo-planes and they need the ‘extinct kind’ to go and sort it out in their analogue machines for which the only qualified pilot is the one with thirty years service?

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    I would assume that they had Tom Cruise in the back of the 2 seat version for a lot of it.

    He’s a qualified pilot. Learnt to fly helicopters for the chase scene on Mission Impossible. He’s already got type rating on several smaller planes so fast jet stuff wasn’t that big a leap.

    I saw a behind the scenes clip about it a few weeks ago.

    coppice
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    I wonder if Hot Shots will be getting a re-boot to!

    scuttler
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    He’s already got type rating on several smaller planes so fast jet stuff wasn’t that big a leap.

    Are you saying he was flying a single seat F-18? I’m assuming you’re not a qualified pilot.

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    The cockpit and flying shots look amazing. I wonder how much is CGI?

    hopefully minimal or none! That is the best thing about the original… the flying sequences look as good now as they did then and IMO have never been bettered, because it was done FOR REALS

    One of the best films ever.

    One of my all times favourites, as close to a perfect movie (as in, achieving what it sets out to do, I’m not saying it’s better than the Godfather 😃) as it’s possible to get. Everything about it is great – it’s like a perfect time capsule back to an alternate 1986 (which only ever existed in our heads) where everything is sun, shades, sweat & Kenny Loggins. 😂

    I wonder if Hot Shots will be getting a re-boot to!

    Speaking of perfect movies 😂 They already captured lightning in a bottle twice – dare they attempt a third? Hot Shots 3: Tiger Blood could be amazing though 😃

    dashed
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    Soundtrack was the first CD I bought for my CD Walkman 🙂

    From t’internet:
    But the stars of the trailer are the planes. While Cruise is known for doing his own stunts—and he did indeed fly aircraft for the film—the U.S. military doesn’t let citizens fly the F/A-18 so that particular piece of hardware was off limits. Personally, we’re most excited about Cruise’s old warhorse—the F-14 Tomcat—which makes a quick appearance even though there are very few of these (very badass) planes left outside of Iran.

    Premier Icon Yak
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    Is that for when the impending cyber attack downs the robo-planes and they need the ‘extinct kind’ to go and sort it out in their analogue machines for which the only qualified pilot is the one with thirty years service?

    This. Well that what my son reckoned in some kind of dusty old barn unearthing fashion then Maverick and Iceman sort out the cyber-baddies in an F14s v drones bust-up.

    Premier Icon Harry_the_Spider
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    Not many F14s left now as the Americans sold them to Iran back in the day, so all of the recently withdrawn ones have been shredded rather than stored in the desert, to prevent them finding their way on to the spare parts market.

    I doubt that they would let Mr Cruise fly an F18 solo off a carrier. He’ll be sat in the back of one of these. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet like they did with Tom Hardy in Dunkirk.

    footflaps
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    Is that for when the impending cyber attack downs the robo-planes and they need the ‘extinct kind’ to go and sort it out in their analogue machines for which the only qualified pilot is the one with thirty years service?

    That’s basically the plot of the BSG reboot…

    P-Jay
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    I really hope it’s not terrible.

    Allow me to reassure you, it’s going to be absolutely terrible.

    Honestly, the first one is actually terrible as a film, but if you’re a teenager who like jets and motorbikes or greased up men with abs then it’s 2 hours of great visuals sort of held together with a flimsy plot.

    This one will be worse in every measurable, my predictions:

    It will be hamstrung by having to try to play homage to the gun-ho, Alpha male characters and style of the 1980s original whilst being compatible with 2020 sensibilities – they’re wildly opposing and in at least one scene an young character with any many 2020 points as possible will have an argument with patsy character from the 80s making them look like the insecure, intolerant dinosaur that they are. This scene will server a purpose for the younger audience (who will be carrying the Cruise-less franchise further) to know it’s for them, and not for their sad old parents generation. This will be jarring and unpleasant for older audience member who will see more of themselves in the Dinosaur than the 20-something Character.

    Most of the fans of the original are now in their 40s or 50s the ‘cynical years’ we’ll all wade into this with a PhD in aerospace engineering’s worth of ‘knowledge’ of fighter jets and be confronted by CGI F-18s that fly like tie-fighters and X-wings.

    To try to appease the Cynical crowd there will be a scene involving an expert, a real brain the size of Mars type who tell ‘Mav’ that he’s a dinosaur and his old human controlled jet is out dated and a drone is better because of all these ‘real world’ scientific reasons, but then ‘because Maverick’ he’d prove Mars head wrong.

    Val Kilmer is in it, he made some great films in the 80s and 90s, but he’s had a very rough ride in the last few years, he hasn’t made anything decent in 15 years and it’s 25 since he was consistently good in anything. He looks a bit of a wreck these days, he ain’t Ice Man anymore.

    This film has been stuck in development hell for 20 years. When they first started to work on the sequel it was going to be released 15 years after the original and one of the sticking points was “has too much time passed?” – the version that coming has been in development for 10 years due to the sad death of Tony Scott. It will have the finger prints of dozens of cooks on it.

    As much as it’s technically a sequel it’ll also be a re-boot as Goose’s Son will be constantly at odds with Maverick. Maverick will move into Vipers roll, trying to calm down Goose Jnr with tales of his father, the sticking point being that whilst Maverick was a fresh faced young (24) Captain, Goose Jnr will be nearly 40 in 2020.

    What are they going to do for an enemy? dropping laser guided bombs on schools in the Middle East isn’t very heroic, Russia? really with diplomatic ties between the US and Russia as bad as they are, are they really going to spin out a Cold War re-match now? It was flimsy at best in the first one. China? They’re the biggest export market for US films now. They’ll either try for the rouge Bond villain type, or find some non-violent plot for a film about fighter jets.

    Still, I reckon 3 beers and it’ll be a laugh.

    I doubt that they would let Mr Cruise fly an F18 solo off a carrier. He’ll be sat in the back of one of these. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet like they did with Tom Hardy in Dunkirk.

    They had F18’s in Dunkirk? No wonder we won!

    Allow me to reassure you, it’s going to be absolutely terrible.

    Honestly, the first one is actually terrible as a film, but if you’re a teenager who like jets and motorbikes or greased up men with abs then it’s 2 hours of great visuals sort of held together with a flimsy plot.

    This one will be worse in every measurable, my predictions:

    It will be hamstrung by having to try to play homage to the gun-ho, Alpha male characters and style of the 1980s original whilst being compatible with 2020 sensibilities – they’re wildly opposing and in at least one scene an young character with any many 2020 points as possible will have an argument with patsy character from the 80s making them look like the insecure, intolerant dinosaur that they are. This scene will server a purpose for the younger audience (who will be carrying the Cruise-less franchise further) to know it’s for them, and not for their sad old parents generation. This will be jarring and unpleasant for older audience member who will see more of themselves in the Dinosaur than the 20-something Character.

    Most of the fans of the original are now in their 40s or 50s the ‘cynical years’ we’ll all wade into this with a PhD in aerospace engineering’s worth of ‘knowledge’ of fighter jets and be confronted by CGI F-18s that fly like tie-fighters and X-wings.

    To try to appease the Cynical crowd there will be a scene involving an expert, a real brain the size of Mars type who tell ‘Mav’ that he’s a dinosaur and his old human controlled jet is out dated and a drone is better because of all these ‘real world’ scientific reasons, but then ‘because Maverick’ he’d prove Mars head wrong.

    Val Kilmer is in it, he made some great films in the 80s and 90s, but he’s had a very rough ride in the last few years, he hasn’t made anything decent in 15 years and it’s 25 since he was consistently good in anything. He looks a bit of a wreck these days, he ain’t Ice Man anymore.

    This film has been stuck in development hell for 20 years. When they first started to work on the sequel it was going to be released 15 years after the original and one of the sticking points was “has too much time passed?” – the version that coming has been in development for 10 years due to the sad death of Tony Scott. It will have the finger prints of dozens of cooks on it.

    As much as it’s technically a sequel it’ll also be a re-boot as Goose’s Son will be constantly at odds with Maverick. Maverick will move into Vipers roll, trying to calm down Goose Jnr with tales of his father, the sticking point being that whilst Maverick was a fresh faced young (24) Captain, Goose Jnr will be nearly 40 in 2020.

    What are they going to do for an enemy? dropping laser guided bombs on schools in the Middle East isn’t very heroic, Russia? really with diplomatic ties between the US and Russia as bad as they are, are they really going to spin out a Cold War re-match now? It was flimsy at best in the first one. China? They’re the biggest export market for US films now. They’ll either try for the rouge Bond villain type, or find some non-violent plot for a film about fighter jets

    Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    It has to be awesome.

    Premier Icon Yak
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    It’s going to be a rogue baddie…..and it’s going to be awesome.

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    I guess it’s got to be better than “Top Gun: Goose”

    P-Jay
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    It has to be awesome.

    Yeah you’re right, of course it will be, after all the cinema is rammed full of reboots and sequels of films of the 80s and 90s that were pure cinematic gold.

    IHN
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    Remember how Creed was, basically, Rocky?

    Remember how Force Awakens was, basically, Star Wars?

    This will be, basically, Top Gun.

    I’m not saying that any of these things are bad, but it’s the way it is.

    Premier Icon Yak
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    Blade Runner 2049.

    Premier Icon Harry_the_Spider
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    If it is set 34 years after the original then Goose Jnr, let’s call him Gosling, is going to be at least 36 years old, if he was the toddler in the original film. This makes him a kind of old to be doing flight school and “slippery” boy band beach volleyball. Unless Goose froze some of his sperms and Meg Ryan had a quiet night in on her own with the turkey baster in 1998.
    I’ll still watch it, but only when the DVD is in the £5 section at Tesco.

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