Not only is there superb musicianship, there’s passion, energy, melody (or not, if that’s what you prefer), intelligent lyrics, dumb lyrics (if that’s your bag), humour, classical influences, jazz influences, pop influences, electronica, female voices, orchestration etc etc etc.
Now I might just make exactly the same case for Zappa.
Athiest – urgh. Preferred the M&M’s advert.
Meshuggah – good til the vocals. Love the bass sound.
Dillinger – is that metal? Sounds more like punk…
SunnO))) – Is that metal? If so Mickey’s right, cos I’ve got some of their stuff! I’m a metaller, me. 8)
Death – now that’s the kind of thing I’m talking about in my earlier post. So ridiculously cliched. Preferred the Gaviscon advert.
Insect Warfare – Again let down by cliched vocals. Nice enthusiastic drumming though.
Tool – not what I think of as metal either. They’ve got some originality, even some folk(?) influences. Doesn’t move me cos of the power riffs, but I do have some similar stuff. (and made it to the end)
These are just my opinions, yours may differ and let’s be honest, it doesn’t really matter!
Here’s some Canadians. They fly all their gear over to the UK, play tiny venues with immense passion and surely little reward.
I think they’re brilliant.
[video]https://youtu.be/2O3js-OVgVM[/video]
Dezb, I like Suuns, not seen them live yet though.
Atheist – Very much an acquired taste, hence the relative obscurity of Technical Jazz/Death Metal.
Meshuggah – The more acceptable face of Tech Metal (they’ve even got a whole subscene named after their “Djent” style.
Dillinger – Post-Hardcore Screamo Metal/Mathcore is, I think, the correct term.
Sunn 0))) – Two men in hooded cloaks, playing guitars at a glacial pace, plugged into 20 odd amps, with the singer from Mayhem and a choral section, with a name derived from their favourite brand of amp. I don’t think it’s possible for a band to be more metal than that.
Death – It wasn’t a cliche when they invented it.
Insect warfare – I just love ’em.
Tool – Prog Metal – Pink Floyd for the post-Cobain generation.
The point is that, like every other style of music, Metal is a very broad church containing a multitude of sounds, influences and techniques.
Here’s a diagram from the wonderful “Metal Evolution” TV show to illustrate just how broad that church is.
But hang-on, this all started with you genre lumping metal. Also, minor threat is there, so the D.C. scene is represented. The list is not exhaustive and is obviously a matter of debate, I only posted it as a counter to the hypothesis that metal all consists of the same rhythms, sounds and vocals.
Oh, go on then. Seeing as he’s posted (the marvellous) B.Dolan, if I was to have posted in that silly “best bands ever” thread, I might well have posted Clipping. But I don’t think anything black or later than 1999 was welcome (joke!)
[video]http://vimeo.com/105161810[/video]
I like Clipping, but I used to love Jonathan Snipes’ earlier group, Captain Ahab. Not the same as Clipping, not at all, but they were sensational live.
Parquet Courts. They don’t really do videos, which we all know are pish anyway.
Even Count Zero likes them, and he goes to 732 gigs week.
I do? Thanks for letting me know, I’ll have to find some to discover whether I actually like them or not; I certainly don’t have anything of theirs among the 200-odd Gigabytes of music in my iTunes library.
I’d love to say I might have done 700-odd in my lifetime, but I doubt I could manage a third of that number in forty-six years of gig-going. I did manage thirty-six in one extravagant year of gig-going, and there have been a few festivals…
I know someone in Bristol who somehow manages 500-odd a year; how, I’ve yet to find out.
Not any particular group but Welsh language music in general.
As somebody who doesn’t speak Welsh, I find it weird how invisible it is. Any Welsh group can generally expect to be completely ignored by the media unless they sing in English.
John Peel was one of the few people to ever champion them.
This is an interesting thread, I will have to check out more Beta Band for sure.
I always wonder how Beulah were never massive. Especially the album When Your Heartstrings Break, which this is from…
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCctLb83e5o[/video]
And I know the Penguin Cafe have a decent following, but they should be a household name…
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJg1NNyke2E[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtsP6ms_os4[/video]
This is one of the hardest, heaviest, most aggressive songs of any genre I’ve ever heard.
If you haven’t already listened to it, Public Enemy’s album ‘It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back’ is a masterpiece. The production is complex though – it can take 10 listens till you work out what is going on.