- Have we had a Top Gear thread yet?
It was all a bit forced and scripted, as is always the case with the show.
Early days, but the trio didn’t appear to have any chemistry at all. Flintoff and McGuinness are just too similar to each other, and even to Harris, in a show where, at its best, much of the amusement came from the interplay between the very different ‘characters’ the presenters are playing.Posted 5 months agothepuristSubscriber
Yep, odd there was no footage of the laps. For me it was more or less an Ethopia special with a car test shoehorned in. They did mention a guest for next week, so that might help but it all felt like a show that the last 3, would’ve made – perhaps barring the ‘left in’ bits but that’s in the editing rather than the presenters.
Still it was better than the other show last night where a bunch of new hopefuls with questionable talent were trying to replace the last lot who fell out of favour.Posted 5 months agoandytherocketeerSubscriber
Certainly a lot more scope for the laddish behaviour and mickey taking. Those 3 seemed to gel better than the previous lot.
Could have been worse. What happened to the Stig though? Want to see laps.
Won’t suit those that want William Woodard and co, but then they’ve been out of luck for over a decade anyway.Posted 5 months agobombjackMember
TBH that was far better than I expected it to be.Posted 5 months ago
I dont mind the ladish behaviour, whilst it was a little forced at times (I dont think Freddie will ever be a natural TV presenter!) it was an improvement on the dying days on Clarkson / May etc.
Needs Steve Berry to make a cameo to complete the Northern trilogy 😉eat_more_cheeseMember
I kind of enjoyed it. Think Paddy is a natural presenter, and will only get better at the role. But can’t help but think the ‘banter’ (probably manufactured) seemed to verge on the edge of bullying. I found it uncomfortable, and more so that it seemed to stereotype the northern lads (I’m from Bolton btw). What I liked about Clarkson et al is that they took the piss out of each other in equal measure, here though it’s just taking the piss out of Chris….maybe it’s just mePosted 5 months agohalifaxpeteSubscriber
Thought it was good, Deffo as good as recent TGT stuff anyway. Liked the ‘northern bants’ between PM and FF. Just hope they dont make Harris the butt of all the jokes as he deserves much more credit than that, the only true motoring journalist and a hell of a driver too!
On a side note that import Mk2 looked a right bargain 😀Posted 5 months agoSpeederSubscriber
Only 1/2 way through as I’m watching with my lad and he had to go to bed but it seems pretty good so far. Ok the banter looks a little forced at times but it is the first of the series and Clarkson, May and Hammond were probably a bit awkward to start with. A lot better than I’d expected and shows hope for the future. It’s not been a car program for a long time, it’s car based entertainment but bringing in CH has given it a bit of that back and that’s to be applauded.
I will miss Matt LeBlanc as I thought he and Chris had a pretty good chemistry by the last series and they were pretty enjoyable together. I won’t, however, miss Rory as he was just painful to watch in front of the camera. I’m not looking forward to the return of Sabine but that’s probably just me.
All considered it’s a thumbs up from me. It certainly could have been worse.Posted 5 months agohodgyndMember
Speeder..you are not alone regarding Sabine ..I think that the “girl beats boy” England v Germany angle has pretty much run its course ..besides which she is extremely irritating ( notwithstanding the fact that she is a very good driver ) ..but obviously the production team think otherwise ..Posted 5 months ago
Generally finding it entertaining, but anyone else feeling just a little uncomfortable with the “banter” aimed at Chris Harris ? Flintoff especially seems to be crossing a line I thought.
Absolutely. Spoiled what was a decent episode, I thought. Flintoff is an arsehole, frankly, and isn’t as competent or entertaining as McGuinness. They need to swap him out at the end of the season.
While him rolling over/destroying the hearse was funny, again I reckon there will be plenty of production folk pissed off with him over that. A bit too close to the uncontrolled risk side of things.Posted 4 months agobrukSubscriber
I’d have to agree. Watched it twice now and don’t really like the humour/northern bants slant on it. I agree re the way Flintoff and Paddy are behaving with regards Chris Harris doesn’t sit right as I watch it with my 8 year old.
At least old top gear there appeared to be an even level of mickey taking between them even if Clarkson was clearly the ‘boss’
Not sure I will continue as don’t really want the boy watching it.Posted 4 months agosadmadalanSubscriber
I will admit that I felt uncomfortable at times last night. McGuiness and Harris seem fine, but Flintoff is obviously finding it hard and is resorting to “sports club banter with the lad”s. Which is looking very dated and makes him to be an idiot. I do realise that some of it is staged, but perhaps a little more thought should go into the staging.Posted 4 months agoedhornbySubscriber
Yep, this isn’t just banter, it’s got a nasty edge to it. add in the chauvinistic way that it’s always 3 blokes (actually 4 because the script clearly denotes the stig as a man*) and sabine is only used whenever there is a ‘adversarial’ character required. Same tired old scripts. very staged, I keep hoping for a good one but I’m pretty much done with it.
*some say he’s….Posted 4 months agothe-muffin-manMember
If it wasn’t scripted, and Harris was upset by it – don’t you think Harris would have dealt with it before it was aired? I can’t imagine they have no say in what is broadcast.
It is getting very close to the knuckle for a pre-watershed show that has a big folling with kids.Posted 4 months agoconvertSubscriber
add in the chauvinistic way that it’s always 3 blokes (actually 4 because the script clearly denotes the stig as a man*)
Is that not OK sometimes. Loose women – not many male presenters. Woman’s’ hour on R4 – always female presenters. Is a show aimed at men, presented by men sometimes ok too?Posted 4 months agonickewenMember
Aye, Flintoff is coming across as a reet **** arsehole. What was the carry on with him nutting Harris in the episode a week ago? Looked intentional even though they tried to dress it up as an accident..
McGuinness is genuinely funny and a good presenter. Flintoff is just a big daft dickhead, he talked about his “dickhead phase” when driving the Boxster but he doesn’t seem to realise he is still in it.
Harris is great. Genuinely excited and passionate about cars and motorsport. Loved his comments about being “chassis enthusiast”. Hard to watch him get bullied on prime time telly after following him for many years through Evo and then his YouTube channel. His review of the M135i 6 years ago sealed my decision to get one. He’s a proper road tester journo.
Agree about putting the jag on its lid.. very dodgy indeed. They didn’t really show a proper shot of it which is telling..Posted 4 months agodamascusMember
I enjoyed it, I enjoyed the banter. I imagine Freddie was like that when he played cricket, he was like that on sky one.
So are we saying the bullying would be OK if Harris could hold his own?
If you let me drive fancy cars, travel the world and paid me you could take all the piss out of me you wanted. But I agree, I think Harris has earned his place now.Posted 4 months ago
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